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On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.
I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:
Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity
I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.
LS is gunsmith so there's that.
It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.
Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum.
Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis?
Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish.
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So you wanna sing kumbaya with me and rsoultin and lynch ruxxar?
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On July 18 2015 04:23 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote:On July 18 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote:
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meh, i'll just go swim. being ignored puts me in a bad mood
let me break it down for the particularly slow here today
- va has hf as top townread for joke!post
- va makes a point of saying hey! look! i thought that, too! <- hint, hint: i'm vt too! (yes i'm aware this bugged me about scott, too, and he flipped town, but i really, really don't see why people say this shit, especially mr. "bluehunter", unless they're trying to use it to get townread in a very anti-town way)
- va forgets he even was townreading hf??? instead scumreads/encourages to shoot
- va suddenly "isn't sure" about hf when hf is getting lynched
- va goes "oh wait, remember that first post that i had him as top town for? yeah, he's totes town herpderp" why won't anyone talk about va?! like seriously, if what i'm saying is that stupid, tell me why To be fair I've read HF's first post as likely from town from the start, it just got overshadowed by other stuff, so I get where he's coming from with that. It's not really an argument that should be used on d4 though, but why does being dumb on HF make him scum? If anything if EBH was scum he'd just jump on the wagon at some point. I wasn't sure on HF either while he was getting lynched. It was a combination of annoyance, doubt and no real counterwagon that kept me on him (HF didn't wanna switch to ruxx).
i'm talking about completely forgetting your top townread clarity ^^ the read is still horribad but that's not the main point
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his play doesnt bother me but his association does. I still find it incredibly weird that so many people have this "scumread" on him and want to lynch him but not really. Strange game in general I keep changing my real reads everytime some one makes a post
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On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.
I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:
Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity
I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.
LS is gunsmith so there's that.
It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.
Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum. Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis? Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish.
I never said I wouldn't listen to your analysis.
I won't listen to analysis that I consider based on false premises.
Doesn't matter who the case is about or how much I scum-read them.
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On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.
I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:
Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity
I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.
LS is gunsmith so there's that.
It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.
Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum. Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis? Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish.
lol i'd like to know why, too
though why he thinks i'm scum is easy xP
xP xP xP xP xP
didn't answer a question clearly enough
fought with hf blah blah defended trfel blah blah
zzzzz
it hasn't changed since d1
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On July 18 2015 04:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 18 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote:On July 18 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote:
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meh, i'll just go swim. being ignored puts me in a bad mood
let me break it down for the particularly slow here today
- va has hf as top townread for joke!post
- va makes a point of saying hey! look! i thought that, too! <- hint, hint: i'm vt too! (yes i'm aware this bugged me about scott, too, and he flipped town, but i really, really don't see why people say this shit, especially mr. "bluehunter", unless they're trying to use it to get townread in a very anti-town way)
- va forgets he even was townreading hf??? instead scumreads/encourages to shoot
- va suddenly "isn't sure" about hf when hf is getting lynched
- va goes "oh wait, remember that first post that i had him as top town for? yeah, he's totes town herpderp" why won't anyone talk about va?! like seriously, if what i'm saying is that stupid, tell me why To be fair I've read HF's first post as likely from town from the start, it just got overshadowed by other stuff, so I get where he's coming from with that. It's not really an argument that should be used on d4 though, but why does being dumb on HF make him scum? If anything if EBH was scum he'd just jump on the wagon at some point. I wasn't sure on HF either while he was getting lynched. It was a combination of annoyance, doubt and no real counterwagon that kept me on him (HF didn't wanna switch to ruxx). i'm talking about completely forgetting your top townread clarity ^^ the read is still horribad but that's not the main point
I'm not familiar with EBH/VA whatever but seems to me he's a bit all over the place in general.
I mean the guy blue hunted in his opening post on day1, you expect him to remember his reads as either alignment?
Not a great defense I admit but I think his stuff is somewhat townie and I'm willing to sheep all the dead town who said the same.
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On July 18 2015 04:28 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote:On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.
I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:
Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity
I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.
LS is gunsmith so there's that.
It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.
Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum. Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis? Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish. I never said I wouldn't listen to your analysis. I won't listen to analysis that I consider based on false premises. Doesn't matter who the case is about or how much I scum-read them.
So which one is your premise? That clarity has been pushed by Damdred or that Damdred didn't push his scumreads really? Cause you used both premises and they can't coexist.
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On July 18 2015 04:29 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 18 2015 04:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 18 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote:On July 18 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote:
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meh, i'll just go swim. being ignored puts me in a bad mood
let me break it down for the particularly slow here today
- va has hf as top townread for joke!post
- va makes a point of saying hey! look! i thought that, too! <- hint, hint: i'm vt too! (yes i'm aware this bugged me about scott, too, and he flipped town, but i really, really don't see why people say this shit, especially mr. "bluehunter", unless they're trying to use it to get townread in a very anti-town way)
- va forgets he even was townreading hf??? instead scumreads/encourages to shoot
- va suddenly "isn't sure" about hf when hf is getting lynched
- va goes "oh wait, remember that first post that i had him as top town for? yeah, he's totes town herpderp" why won't anyone talk about va?! like seriously, if what i'm saying is that stupid, tell me why To be fair I've read HF's first post as likely from town from the start, it just got overshadowed by other stuff, so I get where he's coming from with that. It's not really an argument that should be used on d4 though, but why does being dumb on HF make him scum? If anything if EBH was scum he'd just jump on the wagon at some point. I wasn't sure on HF either while he was getting lynched. It was a combination of annoyance, doubt and no real counterwagon that kept me on him (HF didn't wanna switch to ruxx). i'm talking about completely forgetting your top townread clarity ^^ the read is still horribad but that's not the main point I'm not familiar with EBH/VA whatever but seems to me he's a bit all over the place in general. I mean the guy blue hunted in his opening post on day1, you expect him to remember his reads as either alignment? Not a great defense I admit but I think his stuff is somewhat townie and I'm willing to sheep all the dead town who said the same.
i have no issue with people changing reads? i do have an issue with
hf top town! for this post
shoot hf he could be scum
oh wait, hf still town for this post!
that's some extreme form of early onset alzheimers if he really forgot it as town, imo
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@Vivax:
It's funny how of instead of actually going back and re-evaluating whether your case was indeed correct or have a discussion with me about it, you instantly jump on me and call me mafia for pointing out that I disagree with it.
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On July 18 2015 04:27 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
his play doesnt bother me but his association does. I still find it incredibly weird that so many people have this "scumread" on him and want to lynch him but not really. Strange game in general I keep changing my real reads everytime some one makes a post
Some names would be helpful. Many people and real reads and some one doesn't tell us anything.
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anyway yeah really going to swim now...it's only open so long
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On July 18 2015 04:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:28 ruXxar wrote:On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote:On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.
I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:
Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity
I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.
LS is gunsmith so there's that.
It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.
Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum. Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis? Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish. I never said I wouldn't listen to your analysis. I won't listen to analysis that I consider based on false premises. Doesn't matter who the case is about or how much I scum-read them. So which one is your premise? That clarity has been pushed by Damdred or that Damdred didn't push his scumreads really? Cause you used both premises and they can't coexist.
I already explained this:
in context of damdreds pushes this game it's a strong push.
in context of pushes in general it's not a very strong push.
These 2 are not mutually exclusive.
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On July 18 2015 04:31 ruXxar wrote:
@Vivax:
It's funny how of instead of actually going back and re-evaluating whether your case was indeed correct or have a discussion with me about it, you instantly jump on me and call me mafia for pointing out that I disagree with it.
I call you mafia cause of the way you represent Damdred's play by two extremes just to make it fit into the current post, and how you ignore what your scumreads say in the meantime, and zomg, it's actually the dudes I assumed to be teammates, and whom you both should be wanting to lynch.
You have a huge disrepancy between what you say you want and what you actually want, as displayed by your choice of arguments and choice of people you talk to, and it's what you can catch scum off, just like Kelsie, clarity and rso talked about clarity's fallacy of his early post as if it meant something, and then didn't mean anything if you don't take Damdred's case on him into consideration that doesn't mean anything cause it can easily be a bus.
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Vivax, friend, I'm town. But we can kill ruxxar together, yes?
I'm going for a run and then I'll be around until flips
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On July 18 2015 04:34 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:30 Vivax wrote:On July 18 2015 04:28 ruXxar wrote:On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote:On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.
I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:
Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity
I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.
LS is gunsmith so there's that.
It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.
Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum. Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis? Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish. I never said I wouldn't listen to your analysis. I won't listen to analysis that I consider based on false premises. Doesn't matter who the case is about or how much I scum-read them. So which one is your premise? That clarity has been pushed by Damdred or that Damdred didn't push his scumreads really? Cause you used both premises and they can't coexist. I already explained this: in context of damdreds pushes this game it's a strong push. in context of pushes in general it's not a very strong push. These 2 are not mutually exclusive.
Of course they are mutually exclusive, cause only one context can exist, unless you say that "this game" and "in general" are something different.
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On July 18 2015 04:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
Vivax, friend, I'm town. But we can kill ruxxar together, yes?
I'm going for a run and then I'll be around until flips
I can work with that.
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Obi is 100 % not mafia cause of this post:
On July 08 2015 01:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 01:06 Harkon wrote:On July 08 2015 01:05 Damdred wrote:
I'm done really really tired of being scum read for whatever I do whenever I'm in any games, hunt town and find scum through pie in scum for doing that. Just looking for scummy behavior and caseing it and I'm scum for that.
la te da, fuck that shit I'm getting me Chinese playing final fantasy and I'll be back near deadline fuck it This seems like an unnecessary overreaction. Meh to this.
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On July 17 2015 20:59 rsoultin wrote:
okay, so we're at
10:3, which means with the kills tonight unless miraculously we have any blues who didn't decide to out in the first two days
8:3 - tomorrow
7:3 - ml
5:3 - triple mylo/lylo
so literally absolutely everyone in this game who is using hf as an excuse to do another auto lynch is either scum or horrible and when you lose this game after i flip town you have only yourselves to blame for thinking there's any validity to something as illogical as hf and rsoul can't possibly fight/misread each other as town
on that note...oats, you've called me scum all game? isn't this your chance? xP
pointing out the obvious + sayign "sheep town HF is a sucky idea"? you're totally scum.
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On July 18 2015 04:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 04:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 18 2015 04:30 Vivax wrote:On July 18 2015 04:28 ruXxar wrote:On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote:On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.
I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:
Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity
I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.
LS is gunsmith so there's that.
It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.
Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum. Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis? Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish. I never said I wouldn't listen to your analysis. I won't listen to analysis that I consider based on false premises. Doesn't matter who the case is about or how much I scum-read them. So which one is your premise? That clarity has been pushed by Damdred or that Damdred didn't push his scumreads really? Cause you used both premises and they can't coexist. I already explained this: in context of damdreds pushes this game it's a strong push. in context of pushes in general it's not a very strong push. These 2 are not mutually exclusive. Of course they are mutually exclusive, cause only one context can exist, unless you say that "this game" and "in general" are something different.
So I'm saying in context of damdreds pushes clarity was one of his strongest.
Yet you argue that he pushed other people harder than clarity, and I disagree, and I showed you why.
And your instant reaction is to go "all you say is bs, you're mafia".
Just because you spend a lot of effort on a something doesn't mean you're right.
And if you expect people to swallow everything you say raw without scrutinizing it then you are delusional.
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