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On July 18 2015 03:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hi Vivax. My argument early d1 wasn't "1 of us is scum" it was "we can't be scum together" and it was to jumpstart discussion, that said I stand by it that I would never approach my scummate that way that early in the day.
I think my WoS unvote was fine, I liked his explanation of "preplanned is dumb" and his "I dunno what it means" stuff.
You're also ignoring that damdred made a huge case on me near the end of d1 >.> ad bold 1: Why would you ever think about your scummates as town? ad bold 2: Did you mention this somewhere earlier? Cause it's clear you were aware of this all the time and didn't just go look it up right now.
1. I just did, shrug. After my made my first post I considered how our interaction looked and then realized I could come to this conclusion.
2. Someone else brought it up as a point in my defense at some point, I don't remember who.
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@Vivax.
Not to rain on your parade here, but I already looked into the associations between clarity and kelsier/damdred.
Damdred actually had clarity as one of his strongest scum reads and was actually the one I felt he elaborated the most on of his scumreads. So to say that he didn't pursue it is to misrepresent what he actually did.
On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.
I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.
The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.
The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.
The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.
TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.
This guy is scum vot ehim.
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I'll give you a proper response in a bit, currently busy.
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On July 18 2015 03:40 ruXxar wrote:@Vivax. Not to rain on your parade here, but I already looked into the associations between clarity and kelsier/damdred. Damdred actually had clarity as one of his strongest scum reads and was actually the one I felt he elaborated the most on of his scumreads. So to say that he didn't pursue it is to misrepresent what he actually did. Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.
I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.
The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.
The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.
The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.
TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.
This guy is scum vot ehim.
He did so veeeeery late. And dropped that as well in his later reads. Making one case that doesn't have any conviction throughout the game doesn't exclude it's a bus, it only means he made a well written case on a teammate for the reason you bring that up now.
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I agree it doesn't suddenly make me confirmed town but you did kinda just skip it in your case.
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In fact my reaction to damdred "hard bussing" me, I called him town because I kinda liked his case.
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???
i don't get how that means anything more than damdy casing you, clarity?
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On July 18 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:You will notice on reading that rso had the exact same reaction as Damdred and Kelsier at roughly the same time, and as Kelsier and Damdred she didn't pursue the matter further. Going further in her filter you'll find the shitfight with HF ensuing. On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP On July 06 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Can't blame him, does that mean you agree with wanting to lynch me? nope, it means i see why he finds it suspicious xP especially if, as he's just shown, he thinks holyflare is town On July 06 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:09 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Clarity if you haven't played with hf much who is arguably the best scum player on site. Why do you 100% lack any fear in reading him on precious few posts? I wasn't aware he was arguably the best scum player on site, but I don't think it changes much. Obviously my read on him can change, but based solely on his first post I will fight against his lynch today. Why off one post? It doesn't make a lot of sense does it to totally eliminate one person based on an opening does it? Sure it does, it's day 1. >> you must be reaaaaaally rusty to believe this On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? On July 06 2015 08:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
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I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that.
trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times
Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? xP talk about pointless questions yes clarity i 100% agree with you! that's why i said it makes no sense, because i think you're rightthere is absolutely no reason that two scum can't have that conversation; i'm not even sure where you're getting this from So after lynching clarity you lynch her, pretty simple. logical fallacy incoming xP this makes me scum how?
There's a wall of text on clarity above, gone completely unnoticed by you, and you have absolutely no insight on why somebody would think you are scum when two scummers have shown an extremely similar behaviour as yourself?
Hehehehe
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Clarity can you walk me through your thought process when WoS posts after his townread of yours made you less suspicious of him?
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On July 18 2015 03:51 Vivax wrote:
Clarity can you walk me through your thought process when WoS posts after his townread of yours made you less suspicious of him?
It wasn't any deep analysis or anything. I thought his townread on me made no sense but "preplanned is dumb and clarity is tryharding" was good enough.
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I can even remember something I posted that can't make rsoultin and me scum together WIFOM ALERT WIFOM ALERT. I had a revelation in thread where rsoultin's posts were just noise because of her bloody smileys.
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On July 18 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 18 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:You will notice on reading that rso had the exact same reaction as Damdred and Kelsier at roughly the same time, and as Kelsier and Damdred she didn't pursue the matter further. Going further in her filter you'll find the shitfight with HF ensuing. On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP On July 06 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Can't blame him, does that mean you agree with wanting to lynch me? nope, it means i see why he finds it suspicious xP especially if, as he's just shown, he thinks holyflare is town On July 06 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:09 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Clarity if you haven't played with hf much who is arguably the best scum player on site. Why do you 100% lack any fear in reading him on precious few posts? I wasn't aware he was arguably the best scum player on site, but I don't think it changes much. Obviously my read on him can change, but based solely on his first post I will fight against his lynch today. Why off one post? It doesn't make a lot of sense does it to totally eliminate one person based on an opening does it? Sure it does, it's day 1. >> you must be reaaaaaally rusty to believe this On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? On July 06 2015 08:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
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do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? xP talk about pointless questions yes clarity i 100% agree with you! that's why i said it makes no sense, because i think you're rightthere is absolutely no reason that two scum can't have that conversation; i'm not even sure where you're getting this from So after lynching clarity you lynch her, pretty simple. logical fallacy incoming xP this makes me scum how? There's a wall of text on clarity above, gone completely unnoticed by you, and you have absolutely no insight on why somebody would think you are scum when two scummers have shown an extremely similar behaviour as yourself? Hehehehe
lol yeah. your whole read is predicated on that damdred's questioning of clarity's early posts match kelsier's
ergo
clarity is scum
ignore the case on clarity later that doesn't fit in your pattern finding so let's not even mention it
ergo
all scum members must be treating clarity the same because clarity is scum
ergo
rsoul who also questioned clarity for that weird posting but didn't push him...is scum
and you can't see how that logic falls apart at all? i think you need to read that thread that just went up xP you're sounding like gonzaw
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On July 18 2015 03:52 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:51 Vivax wrote:
Clarity can you walk me through your thought process when WoS posts after his townread of yours made you less suspicious of him? It wasn't any deep analysis or anything. I thought his townread on me made no sense but "preplanned is dumb and clarity is tryharding" was good enough.
Do you think that the way Damdred, Kelsier and rso questioned you and dropped you is a mere coincidence in the case of rso?
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On July 18 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote:On July 18 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 18 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:You will notice on reading that rso had the exact same reaction as Damdred and Kelsier at roughly the same time, and as Kelsier and Damdred she didn't pursue the matter further. Going further in her filter you'll find the shitfight with HF ensuing. On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP On July 06 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Can't blame him, does that mean you agree with wanting to lynch me? nope, it means i see why he finds it suspicious xP especially if, as he's just shown, he thinks holyflare is town On July 06 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:09 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Clarity if you haven't played with hf much who is arguably the best scum player on site. Why do you 100% lack any fear in reading him on precious few posts? I wasn't aware he was arguably the best scum player on site, but I don't think it changes much. Obviously my read on him can change, but based solely on his first post I will fight against his lynch today. Why off one post? It doesn't make a lot of sense does it to totally eliminate one person based on an opening does it? Sure it does, it's day 1. >> you must be reaaaaaally rusty to believe this On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
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I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that.
trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times
Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? On July 06 2015 08:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
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Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? xP talk about pointless questions yes clarity i 100% agree with you! that's why i said it makes no sense, because i think you're rightthere is absolutely no reason that two scum can't have that conversation; i'm not even sure where you're getting this from So after lynching clarity you lynch her, pretty simple. logical fallacy incoming xP this makes me scum how? There's a wall of text on clarity above, gone completely unnoticed by you, and you have absolutely no insight on why somebody would think you are scum when two scummers have shown an extremely similar behaviour as yourself? Hehehehe lol yeah. your whole read is predicated on that damdred's questioning of clarity's early posts match kelsier's ergo clarity is scum ignore the case on clarity later that doesn't fit in your pattern finding so let's not even mention it ergo all scum members must be treating clarity the same because clarity is scum ergo rsoul who also questioned clarity for that weird posting but didn't push him...is scum and you can't see how that logic falls apart at all? i think you need to read that thread that just went up xP you're sounding like gonzaw
But the case on clarity fits the pattern, cause before and after Damdred doesn't wanna lynch him.
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On July 18 2015 03:53 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:52 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 18 2015 03:51 Vivax wrote:
Clarity can you walk me through your thought process when WoS posts after his townread of yours made you less suspicious of him? It wasn't any deep analysis or anything. I thought his townread on me made no sense but "preplanned is dumb and clarity is tryharding" was good enough. Do you think that the way Damdred, Kelsier and rso questioned you and dropped you is a mere coincidence in the case of rso?
I think that's more likely than 3 scum having the exact same approach towards me. If rsoultin is scum it's not because she did the same things as kelsier and damdred at a certain point in the game
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On July 18 2015 03:54 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:53 Vivax wrote:On July 18 2015 03:52 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 18 2015 03:51 Vivax wrote:
Clarity can you walk me through your thought process when WoS posts after his townread of yours made you less suspicious of him? It wasn't any deep analysis or anything. I thought his townread on me made no sense but "preplanned is dumb and clarity is tryharding" was good enough. Do you think that the way Damdred, Kelsier and rso questioned you and dropped you is a mere coincidence in the case of rso? I think that's more likely than 3 scum having the exact same approach towards me. If rsoultin is scum it's not because she did the same things as kelsier and damdred at a certain point in the game
But cause of?
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Didn't damdred just scumread me all game and kelsier townread me all game (after first half of d1)?
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On July 18 2015 03:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:54 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 18 2015 03:53 Vivax wrote:On July 18 2015 03:52 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 18 2015 03:51 Vivax wrote:
Clarity can you walk me through your thought process when WoS posts after his townread of yours made you less suspicious of him? It wasn't any deep analysis or anything. I thought his townread on me made no sense but "preplanned is dumb and clarity is tryharding" was good enough. Do you think that the way Damdred, Kelsier and rso questioned you and dropped you is a mere coincidence in the case of rso? I think that's more likely than 3 scum having the exact same approach towards me. If rsoultin is scum it's not because she did the same things as kelsier and damdred at a certain point in the game But cause of?
I don't think she's scum
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On July 18 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:40 ruXxar wrote:@Vivax. Not to rain on your parade here, but I already looked into the associations between clarity and kelsier/damdred. Damdred actually had clarity as one of his strongest scum reads and was actually the one I felt he elaborated the most on of his scumreads. So to say that he didn't pursue it is to misrepresent what he actually did. On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.
I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.
The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.
The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.
The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.
TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.
This guy is scum vot ehim. He did so veeeeery late. And dropped that as well in his later reads. Making one case that doesn't have any conviction throughout the game doesn't exclude it's a bus, it only means he made a well written case on a teammate for the reason you bring that up now.
That is true, however after reading damdred's filter, he didn't really pursue any of his scum-reads at all.
From the analysis I did earlier I felt like clarity was damdreds second strongest scum-read throughout the whole game.
So no, he didn't push him very hard in a general sense, but did so in a relative sense compare to the other pushes he's done this game.
And you can't really say that he dropped the scum-read because the last list post he made was just wifom after he already got caught.
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On July 18 2015 03:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:On July 18 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote:On July 18 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 18 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:You will notice on reading that rso had the exact same reaction as Damdred and Kelsier at roughly the same time, and as Kelsier and Damdred she didn't pursue the matter further. Going further in her filter you'll find the shitfight with HF ensuing. On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP On July 06 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript. lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP Can't blame him, does that mean you agree with wanting to lynch me? nope, it means i see why he finds it suspicious xP especially if, as he's just shown, he thinks holyflare is town On July 06 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:09 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Clarity if you haven't played with hf much who is arguably the best scum player on site. Why do you 100% lack any fear in reading him on precious few posts? I wasn't aware he was arguably the best scum player on site, but I don't think it changes much. Obviously my read on him can change, but based solely on his first post I will fight against his lynch today. Why off one post? It doesn't make a lot of sense does it to totally eliminate one person based on an opening does it? Sure it does, it's day 1. >> you must be reaaaaaally rusty to believe this On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
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do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? On July 06 2015 08:27 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:
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ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent.
what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum?
I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? xP talk about pointless questions yes clarity i 100% agree with you! that's why i said it makes no sense, because i think you're rightthere is absolutely no reason that two scum can't have that conversation; i'm not even sure where you're getting this from So after lynching clarity you lynch her, pretty simple. logical fallacy incoming xP this makes me scum how? There's a wall of text on clarity above, gone completely unnoticed by you, and you have absolutely no insight on why somebody would think you are scum when two scummers have shown an extremely similar behaviour as yourself? Hehehehe lol yeah. your whole read is predicated on that damdred's questioning of clarity's early posts match kelsier's ergo clarity is scum ignore the case on clarity later that doesn't fit in your pattern finding so let's not even mention it ergo all scum members must be treating clarity the same because clarity is scum ergo rsoul who also questioned clarity for that weird posting but didn't push him...is scum and you can't see how that logic falls apart at all? i think you need to read that thread that just went up xP you're sounding like gonzaw But the case on clarity fits the pattern, cause before and after Damdred doesn't wanna lynch him.
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how many people did damdred really want to lynch?
you're completely disregarding the fact that this is a majority lynch game, and any player, town or scum, is going to have to try to consolidate on just one or two targets. i'm not saying i don't get where you're coming up with this, but it's just a fundamentally flawed way to find scum. none of this makes clarity mafia?
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