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On July 13 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 02:47 Harkon wrote:On July 13 2015 02:44 rsoultin wrote:On July 13 2015 02:42 Harkon wrote:
Why are you suddenly doubting your HF read? Only because of this matyring attempt which scumHF knows will not work anyways? no, it had to do with how the shitfights were happening? like last game, in himalayas, he just wouldn't fucking stop. everything had a response, he'd fight you tooth and nail over every little thing no matter how illogical here he'd actually just leave for long periods of time it feels like he's just trying to discredit and throw shit at me at every turn, but i don't know that scum!hf would actually avoid me like this, and some of his other reads and pushes have been okay so yeah -_- i'm not really sure what to think about him obviously it didn't start today lol >< Well, maybe that's because HF noticed that this approach does not work in this town? How many people called him scum for it now? Yeah, a lot. Including the townleaders. If scumHF keeps this up he just gets lynched while the town in himalayas townread him for it. i know it doesn't make him town, jat i also know that i'm inclined to call him scum for all the sniping and the cases that are blatantly wrong or exaggerated i was questioning ruxx to see if i wanted to do the gun play with him or hf...and settled on hf, cause yeah, i'm like right in the middle on him right now >< it doesn't look like last game did
Then why are you changing your mind? Why does it SUDDENLY not look like last game? Or is it because I said we should just lynch both of you?
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On July 13 2015 02:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 02:56 Harkon wrote:On July 13 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:On July 13 2015 02:47 Harkon wrote:On July 13 2015 02:44 rsoultin wrote:On July 13 2015 02:42 Harkon wrote:
Why are you suddenly doubting your HF read? Only because of this matyring attempt which scumHF knows will not work anyways? no, it had to do with how the shitfights were happening? like last game, in himalayas, he just wouldn't fucking stop. everything had a response, he'd fight you tooth and nail over every little thing no matter how illogical here he'd actually just leave for long periods of time it feels like he's just trying to discredit and throw shit at me at every turn, but i don't know that scum!hf would actually avoid me like this, and some of his other reads and pushes have been okay so yeah -_- i'm not really sure what to think about him obviously it didn't start today lol >< Well, maybe that's because HF noticed that this approach does not work in this town? How many people called him scum for it now? Yeah, a lot. Including the townleaders. If scumHF keeps this up he just gets lynched while the town in himalayas townread him for it. i know it doesn't make him town, jat i also know that i'm inclined to call him scum for all the sniping and the cases that are blatantly wrong or exaggerated i was questioning ruxx to see if i wanted to do the gun play with him or hf...and settled on hf, cause yeah, i'm like right in the middle on him right now >< it doesn't look like last game did Then why are you changing your mind? Why does it SUDDENLY not look like last game? Or is it because I said we should just lynch both of you? it's not sudden?
No? Do want me to believe the only reason HF was one of your scumreads in your listpost was your gun play?
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On July 13 2015 03:04 rsoultin wrote:
hf - it really fucking irritates me how he likes to come in and just snipe at me for the hell of it...i was fully willing to work with him and put the trfel thing behind us, but he's right there pinging me for useless shit...like telling me to shut up when i'm catching up and his bm snipe while voting bm...too much fighting with everyone and not just me, while everything (his attitude, not scumreading damdy, etc. etc.) is apparently my fault? he just pulled this shit in himalayas and i have a hard time seeing him as town here.
^ the read is how i really feel about him lol ><
That's weird because you just said it does NOT feel like himalayas. Wtf...
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On July 13 2015 15:52 rsoultin wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 11 2015 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
eh
i dunnae, like i kinda feel about mz like i did about gb...like i read his filter and i still don't really get those super scummy vibes? it was kind of ludicrous to even suggest a wagon when he'd barely read the thread yet, but i actually get what he's saying about milo and ritoky? like if we had any blues who weren't outed i'd say concentrate actions there lol >< cause town feels but knowing his alignment is kinda key to the d1 lynch
also i completely get his frustration with marv >< it's a bit wifomy and admittedly i don't know him, but scum uuuuusually doesn't take confirmed town thread leaders and antagonize them further. but maybe it resonates because i get tired of the egos myself quite frequently
(<3 marv...you've been amazing this game, though, lol, don't get me wrong. ippo made me want to strangle you at times, though)
also i think if he's town that makes it way more likely scott is scum...triple buss seems really odd here On July 11 2015 12:55 rsoultin wrote:
objectively mz or milo is the best shot? i mean, i think that's obvious lol >< hf being a twit aside i'm not an idiot
mz probably gives us more information, but even people not hard-scumreading milo i don't see actually thinking he could be town really, so it saves us the time of lynching him and probably hits scum
either is good. personally i think a check on mz would be better but lol >< not really expecting that to happen since everyone and their brother has already claimed On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote:On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote:
But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.
Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky? He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia. If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter  i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green. idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish. that was where i waffled? like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs- i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first" hold on let me review something... On July 12 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote: - pg. 124
I want to lynch ten people.
Damdred
Scott
Ritoky
HF
HtS
Clarity
Kelsier
LS
Rsoul
Vaxx(whatever his name is)
Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little. Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 23:14 milo109 wrote: - pg. 169 after milo's cop claim
The only problem is if you lynch ritoky and he flips cop, you'll want to lynch me, and then town probably has no more cops. Now if he flips mafia, well that is big game. ^ like, maybe this post from milo is just pragmatism, but he has rit as his 3rd suspect after ritoky's claim, and the only mention that i can find of rit between this switch is here: Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote:
Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them.
HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not? ??? there's no indication of where his read changed? like it doesn't matter if rit flips cop before milo claims, but afterwards, that makes milo look bad. lol >< so yeah i can see people coming to that conclusion well before the tracker claim on d2, in all honesty. not sure how tmi it is? On July 12 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 02:44 Harkon wrote:On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote:On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote:
But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.
Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky? He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia. If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ohh also the post here: On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts. zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave). But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter i would now be interested in your read on damdred tell me what you think I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS sorry to keep distracing you I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green. idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish. that was where i waffled? like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs- i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first" hold on let me review something... For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia. oh...well nvm then >< lol @ hts...there's nothing verifiable about the "tmi" accusation lol >< i thought that accusing mz of tmi in the first place was a stretch. read the quotes in the spoiler jat's saying that i should just sheep him, marv and ls on their reads, cause i'm so well-known for like sheeping people blindly and shit xP i didn't even look at the meta you're looking up, and even if i had i doubt it would have changed the fact that the main, actual accusation against mz...that he had tmi regarding rit and milo...i disagreed with essentially, you're wasting your time. you either believe or disbelieve that my read on mz came from tmi...i didn't take the meta into account when i posted and jat still thinks that i tmi in my scumgames cause of the hard-buss on him in my very first one lol ><
It wasn't the hard bus. It was the nonstop defending of scummy townies. And no, the tmi accusation was not the main thing against MZ.
So, regarding our lynch today:
The only way milo is not scum is if there are 2 scum roleblockers. I have never seen 2 roleblockers ever in any game so that seems pretty damn unlikely to me (it is possible though). If damdred/milo are both scum we don't have that many claimed roles so far either so 2 rbs would also not be balanced in my opinion (especially since most of our roles have limited shots). So to not lynch milo I would need a damn good reason to think he is town.
So I took a look at his filter - his day1 was not so bad and had me think "maybe I need to at least entertain the possibility of him being town". Then I read the rest -> "lol, nope".
We are lynching him today and you clowns will all fall in line like good little sheep and this does not mean you shouldn't discuss anything else today.
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On July 13 2015 18:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 18:40 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 13 2015 18:34 marvellosity wrote:
hello boys Hello marv. On a scale of 1/10 how sad are you MZ flipped town? I'm kinda worried, probably not needed, but I do remember you as scum doing the whole "I was wrong I'll just sheep you guys from now on" thing. have any thoughts on things? Like Vivax? like this? when? i'm sadder than i thought i was going to be. I've not read anything at all this phase. I'll comment on a post if you link it to me though.
Just read it - it is not that much since the thread has been going very slowly. You won't be alive for much longer anyways.
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On July 13 2015 19:41 marvellosity wrote:
Kelsier really has just given up on this game, huh?
Yup.
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On July 13 2015 20:08 marvellosity wrote:
i'd rather kill wave than vivax.
How much do you want to kill wave though?
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On July 13 2015 20:10 Breshke wrote:
Does anyone want to run me through why they think bf is town/mafia. I believe thread sentiment is town at the moment for him?
Tried reading his filter and early he seems to be kinda of all over the place with his scumreads which scott pointed out at the time which gives me weird feelings about scott. I also dislike his meta case on KSC because its based off of one game. I also dislike when he quotes peoples useless one liners as a reason to scumread because it feels like a weak thing to push on. I would have him lean scum if anything
When I read his stuff day1 I thought he was town but I don't really remember why. The oneliner thing is retarded but he made the same argument in his last game as town.
On July 13 2015 20:11 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 20:08 Harkon wrote:On July 13 2015 20:08 marvellosity wrote:
i'd rather kill wave than vivax. How much do you want to kill wave though? maybe a little more than you'd think? i get the (and i think have made it as well in thread, if not i thought i) not giving fucks = town argument, Wave does things as mafia argument. but i also think wave has *some* will to win, *some* desire to solve the game as town. i'm finding it all harder to believe as the game goes on.
Ok. Reasonable I guess. Tbh I am kinda hoping he gets modkilled soon.
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That's the most beautiful peace of art I have ever seen. But who are LIAR, SEOTT and Brwl?
^_^
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On July 13 2015 22:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 22:57 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2015 22:43 marvellosity wrote:On July 13 2015 22:39 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2015 22:24 marvellosity wrote:On July 13 2015 22:21 Clarity_nl wrote:I made some adjustments ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rHW3jcs.jpg) <3 I need learn to draw like this. Where do I sign up for lessons? you can't teach natural flair I get so damn enyvous every time I see people drawing amazing stuff with just a pencil. I'm like I WANT THAT, then I pick up a book and start drawing a turd. After 10 minutes I'm like fuck that, too much effort. I was recently at a job interview for my current job where they asked me to draw 4 things in my life that was important to me. I was stressed out since my drawing is terrible. They came in and I just saw them with a big grin on their faces miring my stick man drawings. I suppressed the embarrassment like a boss though and got the job. hahaha. that story was surprisingly good. Art was my solid "D" subject while I had to take it at school. "Andrew, it looks like you drew that outside the classroom just now!" "uh......"
I always hated art and complained that it had to be a subject in school at all. Scientists don't need art. At least not the draw with a pencil kind.
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So I always let my sisters (who are amazing at it) draw art stuff for me.
huehuehue
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On July 13 2015 23:15 marvellosity wrote:
so i assume rsoultin still thinks ruxxar is mafia, yes?
Well, there is nothing that indicates otherwise.
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At least I am reasonably sure they aren't both town.
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On July 13 2015 23:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 23:21 Harkon wrote:
At least I am reasonably sure they aren't both town. who do you think is more likely to be town? and yes i know it's probably littered over your filter, but i've forgotten and i don't wanna look
I don't know if I have an answer to that anymore. Yesterday I would have said HF today I am not sure. I don't townread either which in a vacuum would only be normal for HF I guess? But I really hated the way he pushed things/fought with people. Since my hope is basically that I do not need to decide another lynch after today I am kinda tempted to just be an asshole and not take a stance. Did you read the d3 thread by now? Because my recent concerns with rsoultin are in there.
On July 13 2015 23:39 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 23:19 marvellosity wrote:On July 13 2015 23:18 Harkon wrote:On July 13 2015 23:15 marvellosity wrote:
so i assume rsoultin still thinks ruxxar is mafia, yes? Well, there is nothing that indicates otherwise. feels like rsoultin dying would tell us a lot, overall. hf too I'm going to go as far to say that whoever is armed should shoot into one of these two. And I will also admit that on my vig shot, I came very close to defying town and shooting Holyflare, I was at the point that I was willing to get myself policy lynched for it too until I saw Harkon's tactical post (and subsequently LS's understandable threat).
I can absolutely understand you. I would probably have been really relieved by a HF shot regardless of his alignment but it's just the obectively worse play because a town HF is infinitely more valuable and more likely to avoid being mislynched than a town MZ who also was a day1 wagon. Concerning the next shot - why not let marv choose? I keep choosing the lynch and he can have the shot. That sounds totally fair to me.
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Yeah, good to hear that we are all imagining things. The game is easy then.
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That's normal for a 12 yo. Don't worry.
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On July 14 2015 01:29 ruXxar wrote:
1) He's actually pushing logical targets. I find myself agreeing with a lot of his reasoning, as compared to just trying to tunnel people to death with weak arguments and a play on emotions.
Last game he tried to lynch people by ridiculing them and their arguments and being over the top and shouting at them. Blowing things out of proportions and trying to make them look stupid.
I'm seeing a relatively more "calm" and reasoning HF this game. More serious and down to business.
Sorry, but this is exactly what he has been doing this game too.
Don't like this post in general.
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On July 14 2015 01:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 01:31 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 14 2015 01:29 Holyflare wrote:
Well picking apart an argument is how you play mafia.....? Wut? He's being lynched bro. Either you think he's scum and you're happy or you think he's town or you're not. If you have doubts go read his filter, at this point he's clearly given up, whatever his alignment is. Right and if he's town he'll have a logical explanation for all of his thought processes and me picking it apart for more information helps me get a read on him. I don't think it's as dead set as everyone makes it out to be and i sure don't want to just afk while he gets lynched.
It is dead set barring a miracle and you know that.
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Of course you say that but I think it is the case. People don't attack you for shitfighting all the time for no reason.
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On July 14 2015 01:58 Holyflare wrote:
Well there's things in the back of my mind and from interactions that hint that milo could be town so I'm going to get to the bottom of it before it's too late.
Don't let us stop you.
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