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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 14:30 GMT
#5746
On July 12 2015 23:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:28 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly.


On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :|


This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more.


i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't

Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him?


i don't remember? lol

bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum

Ok, but it is an odd approach for town too, maybe even more so.

Anyways, I know that it was pointed out then that BM had just played a towngame where he also lurked like this.


no, bm had just replaced out instantly of a town game, unless we're referring to a different one. and hf mentioned that while voting for bm ^^

Ah, yes. I remember you pointing that out. FINE.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 14:34 GMT
#5750
On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly.


On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :|


This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more.


i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't

Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him?


i don't remember? lol

bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum


So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read???

On a similar note:
On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh

I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 14:37 GMT
#5753
On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly.


On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :|


This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more.


i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't

Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him?


i don't remember? lol

bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum


So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read???

On a similar note:
On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh

I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it.


excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta?

It was partly meta, so what? It was really strong meta and there were other reasons too. This just reminds me of Horn of Africa where you also kept defending townies for little to no reason when there were awesome points raised against them.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 14:38 GMT
#5755
On July 12 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:
like i'd already said that i could see the milo/rit thing based on milo's sudden read shift on rit between when rit first claimed and after milo claimed, though i agreed that marv was probably right that the non-survivalist approach was nai

i also said that i thought mz antagonizing marv wasn't something likely to come from scum in that position, but y'all shot that down with the meta case so...yeah

Exactly. We completely shot that down and showed you evidence for it being false.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 14:40 GMT
#5759
On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:37 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:15 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly.


On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :|


This too but this dude has a role, now I'm not so sure the profile fits so well any more.


i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't

Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him?


i don't remember? lol

bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum


So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read???

On a similar note:
On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh

I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it.


excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta?

It was partly meta, so what? It was really strong meta and there were other reasons too. This just reminds me of Horn of Africa where you also kept defending townies for little to no reason when there were awesome points raised against them.


lol >< just cause you think the points are awesome doesn't mean they are, jat

You cannot tell me that if you read his filter from PYP and his filter here you do not come to the same conclusion unless you are mafia and know that he is town.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 14:41 GMT
#5761
On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:38 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:
like i'd already said that i could see the milo/rit thing based on milo's sudden read shift on rit between when rit first claimed and after milo claimed, though i agreed that marv was probably right that the non-survivalist approach was nai

i also said that i thought mz antagonizing marv wasn't something likely to come from scum in that position, but y'all shot that down with the meta case so...yeah

Exactly. We completely shot that down and showed you evidence for it being false.


did you read his response or not?

????
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 14:44 GMT
#5766
On July 12 2015 23:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:40 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:37 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:35 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:34 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:27 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:24 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

i think the problem is both wagons were very lurky anyway -_- so there are going to be a lot of players who didn't particularly care. i know that i didn't

Why were you so eager to switch to BM then? Especially since HF was pushing him?


i don't remember? lol

bm has a lurkier scum game...i've seen him play town well, though it was in a newbie game. don't really know mz but the don't lynch bm thing wasn't survivalist which at the time seemed an odd approach for scum


So why was mz in your mafia list of me/ruxx/milo/mz when you hadn't read the 100 pages or w/e you claimed to read including night time. You thought his posts around the lynch were towny. When you reread you agreed with his ritoky and milo disparity but you still wanted him killed as a mafia read???

On a similar note:
On July 12 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
5. MZ - everyone else thinks he's scum. i can still see the rit/milo thing...but yeah trying to lynch into people in a game he hasn't even read yet does scream pretty false so eh

I absolutely hate this. You saw how hard marv, me and LS were going at MZ and how good the reasons for it where and you still put him in your null list for this weak ass reason. Hate it.


excuse me? what was weak about it? y'all's main reason was meta?

It was partly meta, so what? It was really strong meta and there were other reasons too. This just reminds me of Horn of Africa where you also kept defending townies for little to no reason when there were awesome points raised against them.


lol >< just cause you think the points are awesome doesn't mean they are, jat

You cannot tell me that if you read his filter from PYP and his filter here you do not come to the same conclusion unless you are mafia and know that he is town.


lol i didn't read his filter there, frankly. there was no point

So you didn't/don't actually know what we were talking about and you are still telling me our reasons weren't absolutely amazing? And you see marv, me and LS who are all town going ham on him and don't give us enough credit to even give MZ a scumlean? Marv is rarely wrong when he is this convinced and the same goes for LS.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 14:48 GMT
#5771
Ok, there is scum between rsoultin and HF and maybe we should just lynch both of them after milo to get rid of it. Fortunately I won't be here and won't have to argue with whoever it is we are lynching first.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:25 GMT
#5786
We aren't lynching anyone but milo unless someone convinces me that he is not basically confirmed mafia snd I don't think that's even possible.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:36 GMT
#5789
On July 13 2015 00:35 Vivax wrote:
I actually believe in a world where milo is town. As mafia in his place I'd have either stopped posting altogether or just have been posting utter shit.

First of all that is exactly what he is doing and second of all that's the weakest reason ever.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:46 GMT
#5793
On July 13 2015 00:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 20:06 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 11:03 milo109 wrote:
Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott.


It's hilarious you have the same lynch list despite the whole reason you having this list was mz flipping red.


Still wholly relevant.

Anyway, did you know that since there are 4 other mafia it's probably better to maybe not kill milo? since ls is gunsmith he should have got a gun to another person last night. I'm kind of tempted that we get the person with the gun to announce they have it today because if they don't have it then milo is confirmed mafia. We then lynch some mafia poop today and say we're gonna shoot some other mafia poop tonight and then milo has to get a check off or they let another mafia die.

Not sure I follow you here. Sure, if LS got rbed milo is confirmed mafia but if he didn't that still doesn't make milo town?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:56 GMT
#5798
On July 13 2015 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 00:46 Harkon wrote:
On July 13 2015 00:44 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 20:06 Holyflare wrote:
On July 12 2015 11:03 milo109 wrote:
Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott.


It's hilarious you have the same lynch list despite the whole reason you having this list was mz flipping red.


Still wholly relevant.

Anyway, did you know that since there are 4 other mafia it's probably better to maybe not kill milo? since ls is gunsmith he should have got a gun to another person last night. I'm kind of tempted that we get the person with the gun to announce they have it today because if they don't have it then milo is confirmed mafia. We then lynch some mafia poop today and say we're gonna shoot some other mafia poop tonight and then milo has to get a check off or they let another mafia die.

Not sure I follow you here. Sure, if LS got rbed milo is confirmed mafia but if he didn't that still doesn't make milo town?


I didn't say milo was town i said if he's mafia theres 3 other mafia that we could be killing today and it let's us confirm if milo is a cop tomorrow by getting the person to announce who they are shooting. If he gets rb'd again and mafia dies then who cares we get to lynch him. If he gets rb'd and town dies then who cares we get to lynch him. I just think milo is a seriously stale topic and other lynches are far far better.

I don't think there is a better lynch than mafia. And if we lynch milo today and he flips scum then we have confirmed that there is no rb and the player with the gun can still announce and be held accountable. If we do not lynch milo today then we only achieve that tomorrows discussion will also be stale.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 15:56 GMT
#5799
On July 13 2015 00:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Well I got one way to see if I got roleblocked because I did try to give my last gun away should I out the person out to see if they got it or no?

No need to do that during the day.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 16:45 GMT
#5819
On July 13 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
sheeping harkon.

##vote milo

Nothing else to say?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 17:08 GMT
#5827
On July 13 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:
i've decided not to play today ^^

if milo flips scum, i don't know cause i'm right where i was n2 >< and all hf does when i try to get him to talk to me is fucking snipe
if milo flips town, hf is probably town and playing like the shittiest game of his life -_-

i'd lynch scott if people don't want to lynch milo, but his play still makes no sense to me coming from town
ruxx, too, but i don't expect anyone to agree with me on that xP

agreed with ows/hf on ebh's entrance...he's just stoking the fire and clearly not even reading the game

don't know what bresh or ksc are doing, but i hardly think two non-posts in a 12 pg newbie while we're basically on auto here makes him slam-dunk scum, jat

Did I call him slam-dunk scum?

How does HF's alignment depend on milo's? Doesn't make any sense to me.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 17:15 GMT
#5830
On July 13 2015 02:11 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 02:08 Harkon wrote:
On July 13 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:
i've decided not to play today ^^

if milo flips scum, i don't know cause i'm right where i was n2 >< and all hf does when i try to get him to talk to me is fucking snipe
if milo flips town, hf is probably town and playing like the shittiest game of his life -_-

i'd lynch scott if people don't want to lynch milo, but his play still makes no sense to me coming from town
ruxx, too, but i don't expect anyone to agree with me on that xP

agreed with ows/hf on ebh's entrance...he's just stoking the fire and clearly not even reading the game

don't know what bresh or ksc are doing, but i hardly think two non-posts in a 12 pg newbie while we're basically on auto here makes him slam-dunk scum, jat

Did I call him slam-dunk scum?

How does HF's alignment depend on milo's? Doesn't make any sense to me.


lol you don't get why i was trying to get people to think i had the gun and was going to shoot hf?

Sure, so what?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 17:20 GMT
#5832
On July 13 2015 02:17 rsoultin wrote:
maybe i was like super transparent and scum called my bluff, but i think they'd still play it safe, personally. it's not unreasonable for ls to give me a gun or for me to yolo it xP

so if milo flips town, that means there probably is a 2nd rb and they did rb him today rather than rbing my "shot" on hf

I don't think that proves anything tbh.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 17:28 GMT
#5836
Ok, but I won't consider it before milo flips because I think he is mafia anyways.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 17:42 GMT
#5842
Why are you suddenly doubting your HF read? Only because of this matyring attempt which scumHF knows will not work anyways?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 12 2015 17:47 GMT
#5845
On July 13 2015 02:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 02:42 Harkon wrote:
Why are you suddenly doubting your HF read? Only because of this matyring attempt which scumHF knows will not work anyways?


no, it had to do with how the shitfights were happening? like last game, in himalayas, he just wouldn't fucking stop. everything had a response, he'd fight you tooth and nail over every little thing no matter how illogical

here he'd actually just leave for long periods of time

it feels like he's just trying to discredit and throw shit at me at every turn, but i don't know that scum!hf would actually avoid me like this, and some of his other reads and pushes have been okay so yeah -_- i'm not really sure what to think about him

obviously it didn't start today lol ><

Well, maybe that's because HF noticed that this approach does not work in this town? How many people called him scum for it now? Yeah, a lot. Including the townleaders. If scumHF keeps this up he just gets lynched while the town in himalayas townread him for it.
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