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On July 09 2015 04:15 Harkon wrote: Why would anyone want to talk to you about rsoultin when we were trying to find a lynch close to deadline and rsoultin was clearly not getting lynched? You can vomit as many walls in the thread as you want nothing you wrote actually refutes my points against you. Could you have acted like this as town? Sure. Does it look like it? No.
mz was locked in as the lynch for his returning and ninja vote don't play dumb it's in my post
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On July 09 2015 04:17 Harkon wrote: I also don't know why you would think MZ would not be posting about milo or in general if he was mafia because that is just retarded.
hey fuck wit, if a mafia comes back to the thread and it's between him and bm i think he starts saying stuff about him being town and bm is the better lynch cz bm did this shit as mafia or some variant of that shit
to me it looked like he was catching up and giving input and talking about someone that was never getting lynched looked ok to me (read: towny)... you know, like i wrote in my post
it's quite easy to see
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unless you scum read mz this point is absolutely worthless because at this rate i voted for the person that is producing content and looks towny anyway over the person that did shit all
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On July 09 2015 04:21 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 04:08 Holyflare wrote:On July 09 2015 03:56 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 03:52 Holyflare wrote: also hts i don't get why, if you have a town read on trfel, it's scummy if i've dropped my scum read on trfel? You know better than this. No. It's legitimate. If I say that I dropped my scum read on trfel after calling him mafia all game and give a reason why (his defence looked towny) is that a scummy thing to see? no If you can call his last post which you said looked towny to you a defence... And yes, even if HTS townreads Trfel it is perfectly reasonable to scumread you for dropping him like this. Her read on Trfel is absolutely irrelevant for this.
and i don't care, it makes sense to QUESTION someone about it but not use it as a scum read if that question has been answered
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I concur with the above marv statements. JAT i'm not going to clutter up the thread again after that warning. If you think I hard pushed BM then you can point to my filter where I did that rather than asking people to consolidate from one person who was actually posting and could be mafia (but i had a reason that in my head made him look towny and sense to switch, and you know, you were on that wagon too!) to one person who was posting nothing at all and could have been mafia for his claim.
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On July 08 2015 01:19 Holyflare wrote: 2) Scott31337 (filter) 3) WaveofShadow (filter) 6) Vivax (filter) 7) Bill Murray (filter) 8) ritoky (filter) 11) Meapak_Ziphh (filter) 15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) 17) milo109 (filter) 19) Oatsmaster (filter) 21) rsoultin (filter) 22) Half The Sky (filter)
I think I do want to remove scott too maybe... his list post just made me feel good
bolded i would lynch today probably and the rest is because i'm being super lazy and just not reading to get a better idea of
I mean my list hasn't been that bad after all:
2) Scott31337 (filter) 3) WaveofShadow (filter) 6) Vivax (filter) 8) ritoky (filter) 11) Meapak_Ziphh (filter) 21) rsoultin (filter)
22) Half The Sky (filter) <--- won't remove, being stubborn /care
(potentially damdred, can't rely on his depressed post forever, potentially trfel i'll talk with people about him after this mz stuff)
On July 09 2015 05:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:14 marvellosity wrote:That just screams apathy to me, his stated reason for his claim is so that he doesn't get lynched. It may have shifted attention to him but come on, what town is actually gonna lynch a claimed cop D1. He knows he's bought himself at least a day with that play and two shot cop is not hard to fake. D2: "Oh guys so I checked one of the dead people, looks like they were <insert alignment> hurr durr." D3: "Oh guys I checked <insert name> and they're scum." Seriously, cop is so easy to fake as scum lol. If he survives tonight and doesn't produce a check I'm all for lynching him tomorrow. Ritoky has basically fucked off all game using irl excuses, he claimed to avoid a lynch. I'm really not surprised he hasn't said anything since then. milo mafia, ritoky town got it makes perfect sense to me Apathy is different from just straight fucking off lol, come on you're being obtuse now, do I have to explain it? Apathy means milo doesn't really care about his claim and he's just throwing it out there. He knows it will save him so he just throws it out there. Fucking off (a very technical english term) means he's not even in the thread, he's not reading.
Does it look like milo doesn't care when he posts all these posts tonight? They've been bad but it looks like he really believes them (you know there's a theory that milo knows mz might flip mafia that i'm getting major conspiracy vibes on now that mz has posted this stuff).
Ritoky HAS been reading the thread you know, he posts something about the thread each time he returns?
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On July 09 2015 05:27 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:12 Holyflare wrote: If you think I hard pushed BM then you can point to my filter where I did that rather than asking people to consolidate from one person who was actually posting and could be mafia (but i had a reason that in my head made him look towny and sense to switch, and you know, you were on that wagon too!) to one person who was posting nothing at all and could have been mafia for his claim. On which wagon? I was basically forced to vote BM since you eroded the MZ wagon so heavily that we would have nolynched if I didn't.
Please point out where I eroded it so hard. IIRC about 6 people were saying to switch to BM before I even said anything. I didn't even force the push onto him that hard rather than a "oh everyone is switching so we may as well get it solidly switched instead of force a no lynch"
On July 08 2015 06:37 Harkon wrote: I can also lynch BM but the people suddenly defending MZ have me raising my eyebrows.
You say you were forced to switch but you are the one that just butt budied marv and were open to switching anyway, so why are you seemingly so hard done by it when it was a toss up and you didn't really care anyway?
There's 25 people in this game so unless you think that mafia were defending MZ it doesn't really make sense. You also never point out these people defending MZ "so hard" at all.
Regardless, it doesn't even matter. Point out where I pushed for the lynch.
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Like what are you talking about? If you think that is the case then point out in my filter how that is the case, otherwise it is you that is needlessly cluttering up the thread with accusations that you cannot back up. I'm sitting here quite civilly discussing my intent behind what is happening while you are the one throwing baseless accusations towards me. I have no intention of entering into a shouting match.
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So anyone wanna discuss the possibility that milo made his giant association cases because he knows mz is mafia?
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On July 09 2015 05:52 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:51 Holyflare wrote: So anyone wanna discuss the possibility that milo made his giant association cases because he knows mz is mafia? An accusation like this has failed spectacularly recently.
You know not all cases are the same JAT, stop playing silly. It also doesn't hurt to entertain the idea either. Exploring all possibilities is never bad.
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On July 08 2015 06:54 milo109 wrote: Sigh. I think MZ is a much better lynch. I'm here to switch as need be though.
On July 08 2015 06:57 milo109 wrote: Okay well. Since my vote isn't needed I'm staying on policy.
On July 08 2015 07:03 milo109 wrote: Pls shoot MX
On July 08 2015 07:30 milo109 wrote: Anyone who thinks I was joking is insane. That switch was orchestrated. MZ is so obviously mafia just based on his posts... See. I like information.
I mean if we take these posts in their context. Why does he think the way he does? It's super sure and in their bubble really out there for a newbie to be super sure of someone that just seems to be posting content. Not only does it look like TMI but compared with his defence of Trfel earlier it looks pretty odd at how resolute he looks at pushing his points forward. His orchestrated point doesn't even include the people that actually orchestrated the switch (he misses out geript for instance). He wasn't even particularly interested in exploring ritoky's claim the entire game to be honest when you should at least be pretty damn wary of someone claiming your role, even if it is slightly different.
On July 08 2015 11:41 milo109 wrote: It's / as if to signify either one. Geript could be mafia. Can we lynch MZ first and confirm my crazy hypothesis? Once that is done, future steps can be taken.
It's like "yes i'm so right let's lynch him so i can just obviously push this list and my agenda", that's what it seems like to me.
The stuff that gives me hesitance is the mini "cases" he makes afterwards, although they are pretty awkwardly worded (and he totally misreads what mz said about the cop claims, a recurring theme!). I'd totally like him to explain the rest of his reads to be honest. Those little sentences didn't say anything.
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On July 09 2015 06:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: Alright this mz/milo/ritoky thing has been beaten to death.
Anyone that wants to chime in feel free to give me your opinion on
kelsier/breshke/obi
Kelsier says some things that make sense but is wildly different from kelsier from last game, he has a lot of pointless one liners but I think he was kinda towny at the start of the game and has somewhat fallen off a bit but I still think he might be town.
Breshke said some towny stuff imo although I don't really remember any of his posts anymore. The only thing that sticks out in my mind is his town read of rsoultin which seemed really well reasoned out. <-- probably need to re-evaluate but I don't really think off my head he looked bad at all
obi seems a bit try hard which is potentially worrying but he hasn't really said anything egregious and it all seems pretty thought out and reasoned from what i remember.
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On July 09 2015 06:31 milo109 wrote: You people. I come up with a list of scum, and you call it ridiculous because it rests on MZ being scum. And then MZ does some very idiotic posts, and you all says, 'Oh. I think he is scum. Well... Milo can't possibly have seen this before me.. He must be scum too.'
The key being "and then he does scummy posts".
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On July 09 2015 06:56 rsoultin wrote: so i'm here
and if anyone wants me to bug me about anything before day phase i'll answer
i have nothing new though and am kind of in an eh mood for reasons outside the game so...yeah. fair warning
A list of actual reads plz
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So there's 2 cops and 1 rb and they don't kill any of the cops?
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Dats cool we can kill clarity and then lynch milo if it's wrong
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Yeh we are never not lynching you ever.
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Sweet damdred/milo/mz team gg
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On July 08 2015 11:23 milo109 wrote: Alright. I figured out the game. The mafia team is: MZ HF LS Scott Rsoultin/Damdred
This is in order of certainty. When I flip, remember remember the seventh of July.
Was wondering why damdy popped up here
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Jk/banisher/2 cops and a tracker? X-x
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