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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 21:58 GMT
#6243
Like you haven't "trolled" at any point in game I don't see why you would start now, you're just backpedaling (if you're scum, which you're probably not). :D
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 21:59 GMT
#6247
On July 14 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 06:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 14 2015 06:53 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 14 2015 06:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 14 2015 06:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly if we can get a switch HF that would be able to save Milo for the time.

Reason: I think HF have a good chance of flipping scum honestly speaking.


If HF is scum I will be very angry at geript post-game and I will never forgive myself for wimping out and changing my shot. :/

Honestly MZ woulda been mislynched eventually we just saved ourselves time on that.


You have a point. If I shot Holyflare and if he flipped town, it would have been me on the chopping block tonight instead so, in any case another mislynch.


Your shot was good, don't be too results oriented :p
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 22:01 GMT
#6250
On July 14 2015 07:00 Half the Sky wrote:
If Milo is DT we are in serious trouble. No wait, we are in serious trouble regardless.

Honestly where do we go from here?


We'll see in about 4 minutes.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 22:03 GMT
#6258
Oh man what a cliffhanger ending.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 22:04 GMT
#6265
On July 14 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
Yay my mafia buddy survived!


LOL

Honestly though can you blame me? There was no hint at sarcasm/being funny at all in your post.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 22:05 GMT
#6270
On July 14 2015 07:05 boxerfred wrote:
okay top lynch list is easily HF + harkon now


No Harkon is still very likely vet.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 22:07 GMT
#6274
Anyway, back to the drawing board. See you all tomorrow.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 22:09 GMT
#6281
On July 14 2015 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW if the game doesn't end at the night: We lynch Scott. TMI'd about stuff throughout the game and gave poor explanations for his thoughts.


14 town 4 scum, how on earth could it end?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 22:14 GMT
#6286
On July 14 2015 07:12 Harkon wrote:
No matter how I look at it this setup seems really really questionable balancewise with 2 roleblockers. Maybe we are lucky and there is still a good role out there.


Honestly imagine scum has 2 RB and town has 2 cops and a 2shot gunsmith. There's 25 people in the game. The cops aren't supposed to both claim d1. It doesn't sound so bad.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 13:03 GMT
#6420
On July 14 2015 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=320#6390

the spoilered is getting pretty close to correct application of DMA


Rsoultin basically said the same thing about trfel earlier in the game, do you think that makes her town as well?
I do agree on trfel, for what it's worth. Seems a bit unethical to mention outside of the game interaction but w/e.

Going back through rsoultin's post I'm rather confident that she's town now.

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 08 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay ruxxar. i've explained it all, but not concisely and not politely because i'm not polite

but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not

reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas

the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads

subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place

that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead

the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads

but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms

as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom

most of this i've already said

now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness

was that polite enough?




also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated

i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that

beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him

On July 14 2015 03:08 rsoultin wrote:
mrt :/

oh, yeah, truffle is disinterested in general but it's not necessarily game-related? for what that's worth. doesn't really excuse not reading cause i still caught up >< and stayed up till 2a.m. doing the weekend's chem work as a result so screw you guys for making me read lol ><

hf, what is it that makes you think milo is townie, anyway?


I think there's a third one but I can't find it.


These seem like the kind of things she wouldn't say as scum as it's a bit low to use irl information to use "correct reasons" to townread someone, but as town it's one of those things you can't really help but take into account.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 13:05 GMT
#6422
I AM A MAN!!!!! teehee
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 13:08 GMT
#6424
So anyway what changed? Or do you still think I'm scum? Can't really remember your reads at all tbh.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 13:43 GMT
#6438
On July 14 2015 22:42 Holyflare wrote:
It's a good thing kelsier flipped mafia though that makes things easier




IM NOT FALLING FOR THIS AGAIN (((
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 13:58 GMT
#6443
I'm warming up to a scott lynch.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 14:58 GMT
#6468
On July 14 2015 23:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly a scott shot wont really tell us much I think.


Yeah, although I don't like a WoS shot I actually think he's town and there's a decent chance he's getting modkilled either way. I don't like host wifom but it's necesarry I think.

Maybe EBH isn't such a bad shot after all. Like I think he kinda looks town but I don't have much exp with VA (vayneauthority?) played with him once but that was in a huge greymist game. Others seem to think if EBH is VA then he could definitely play this way as scum, and I'm willing to sheep that.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 14:59 GMT
#6470
Man having 4 dead blues is really sad, I can't believe we hit both cops (I'm working under the assumption there is no 3rd cop, despite 2 RB, as he would have claimed I THINK).
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 15:04 GMT
#6474
I think I'd rather shoot someone who is hard to lynch and who will be a problem at lylo than shooting someone who has the most "information" in ways of connections. EBH fits under hard to lynch, since I wouldn't know how on earth to argue that he's scum, but I definitely can't argue that he's town... Like I get this feeling that he is....
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 15:04 GMT
#6475
On July 15 2015 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
what is DMA?


Dick move analysis
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 15:10 GMT
#6482
Scum hasn't really gotten the opportunity to kill you if you're town, HF. Unless you're saying anyone else would have shot you n1?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 15:14 GMT
#6485
I mean I think the palmar shot makes sense for scum, he's a strong town that wasn't trying at all d1 which makes it likely he's blue, if he's not blue he's still a good shot as there's no way anyone is protecting him and he can solve games, and apparently harkon tried to direct a shot on him by soft claiming a blue role?

From your perspective, is there anyone who as scum think they can keep you alive and then try to mislynch you/get you shot by town?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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