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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 02:37 GMT
#5137
On July 11 2015 11:32 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 11 2015 11:31 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:29 marvellosity wrote:
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii


hiiiiiii ^^ i swam. it was blissful! \o/

do you get why hf likes scott?

well i've not read what he said and i can't remember what he said before

i do remember looking at his filter like 10 times at the end of day 1 trying to be sure enough to start a wagon on him but i never was, but i can't remember right now why


meh probably cause it's just a whole lot of nothing, but i don't know what you saw either xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 02:46 GMT
#5140
On July 11 2015 11:39 Holyflare wrote:
Yes it wqs necessary because all the questions you're asking seem super redundant and forced and you're not even sure of events that took place so it's not particularly helpful at all. Why am I having that problem with several people? The majority of people in my scum list so far are people that are incredibly likely to flip mafia. In fact the only reasom damdred was ever tentatively removed was because i trusted in one of your tells on him being demotivated when scum read otherwise i would have him solidly on there. If anything i am super on point so far.

Scott's post was ego stroking how? His list appeared at a time where i didn't exactly make my thoughts known and it's pretty hard to conjure up a list like that if you're mafia since it was far too accurate. Even all the little quips about people.


don't obstruct me, please. i'm actually in a good mood right now, and blaming your damdy read on me when i was saying i didn't feel good about him this game...all game...just looks a lot like you're trying to shift blame

how is conjuring up a "far too accurate" list townie? how do you know it's accurate? like really ><

i mean i think it's pretty obvious how it's ego-stroking when he was sheeping several of your reads
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 02:51 GMT
#5144
On July 11 2015 11:46 ruXxar wrote:
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On July 11 2015 11:29 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
i stand corrected lol ><

you needed over 10 minutes to write that?


When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions.


yeah like that toneread doesn't even appear until well after the whole thread is talking about lynching him, so i'm just going to completely disregard it xP

talk to me about the fake redcheck


What do you want to know?

I think it's a suboptimal play from a mafia trying to survive.
Keep in mind that this was before geript outed.
I think the mechanically correct play as mafia is to fake a greencheck/redcheck and then stick with it.
Rescinding the check and saying that you got roleblocked is trying to sell the world of there being either 2 mafia RBs or 1 Mafia RB + 1 jailer.
I think that is a low percentage play, so I'm not a fan of it.


yet you think milo is scum? like you made this case for him before geript's claim, and then you said he should be auto?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 02:52 GMT
#5146
On July 11 2015 11:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cool flip.
Shoot MZ.

Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth.

Did you ever read Scotts previous games? He seems pretty much the same, lurky and not that useful.



... -_-

i don't get why he's all gung ho in the obs qt but useless in games, then

meh one more thing to look through
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 02:54 GMT
#5148
lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:00 GMT
#5156
On July 11 2015 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
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n July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should

Do you have a read on wave?


complete null. he hasn't played. i'd say scum but i know he takes pride in his scum game so eh -_- maybe he fell down a hole somewhere. it's been days
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:02 GMT
#5159
On July 11 2015 11:58 Holyflare wrote:
You should simply read the game rsoultin because you are missing the night posts where milo horrendously tmi's up the thread with mz reads and mz tmi's up the thread with milo and ritoky reads and you're missing all of the fun bits that are actually useful to this game.


what quips?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:03 GMT
#5160
On July 11 2015 12:01 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 11 2015 12:00 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
n July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should

Do you have a read on wave?


complete null. he hasn't played. i'd say scum but i know he takes pride in his scum game so eh -_- maybe he fell down a hole somewhere. it's been days


Did you not just see him put the same effort into a game you are co hosting and he was town?


nope ^^

if you're talking about yamato's game, i wasn't a real cohost lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:05 GMT
#5161
On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 06 2015 17:28 Trfel wrote:
Pointless Conversation

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On July 06 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 06 2015 07:20 Trfel wrote:
Hi.

I need to go take a sauna now. Raynpelikoneet would approve, I assume

I'll probably be mostly active in the evenings, lately I've been busier during the day. So if you scumread me for lack of activity or lack of active discussion, you'll be wrong.

Anyway, this should be a fun (if spammy) game. And an easy win. Scum, you don't have a chance.





but, but, but...

this was our favorite!

;o; judas
Yes, but you see the song I linked has a (terrible) connection to the point I am attempting to convey. "Sports Song" is my favorite from Weird Al's recent songs, anyway.



On July 06 2015 07:31 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 06 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
##vote trfel

Super over explained afk entry excuse post

You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on...

Scum #2 I've caught.


Must be a lot of mafia in this game when you catch them while less than half the game didn't even post.


There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax?
Do you normally miss jokes?



On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup!


Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic?


it's cool

i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy
Do not! Only that one time....

If you must know, I wrote my entrance post for this game after the Day post....



On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup!


Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic?


it's cool

i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy

I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game.
Thanks for the confidence WaveofShadow, but she most definitely can read me...



On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity do you have any other reads so far?



I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that.

trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times

Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet


do you have anymore town?



Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads.


ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent.

what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum?


I said we can't both be scum

Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful.


-squints at-

lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right?



You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little.

I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree?
I don't even....



On July 06 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
chem work to do...
Well now I'm feeling pretty stupid...



On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.
This is really stupid, but I think this post actually gets him a town lean...








On July 06 2015 12:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 12:29 milo109 wrote:
Alright you people are boring. I'll be back in the morning.

When you wake up care to give me your thoughts?
Has LightningStrike ever used phrasing like this before?



At the moment, I'm most suspicious of (in no order) scott31337, LightningStrike, and Holyflare.

I'm suspicious of LightningStrike partially because of what Damdred said. While Damdred's point wasn't great, LightningStrike's response (looking up the games that were missing from his initial post) seems very telling.

Furthermore, I don't think that LightningStrike has ever used the phrasing in the above quote as town. Usually, he says "please give me your reads" or "what are your reads, please" or something like that. In contrast, "care to give me your thoughts" is far more reserved. And the rest of LightningStrike's posting in this game is far more aggressive than I'm used to seeing from him.

It feels like the strongest argument against LightningStrike is how his play has been affected by the pressure he's been under. As people bring up different things, he posts in different ways as a result.

Side note, why are girls so confusing.... (and no, I'm not talking about anyone in this game)



This looks really familiar - throw out some suspicions, and then work on your agenda.

I don't like this post at all.

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On July 06 2015 20:16 boxerfred wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hype! And already information.


Holyflare claiming VT is interesting. Doesn't seem something scum would do or think of this quickly after PMs went out/daypost went up.


Not lynching him today.

strange entry post, why would you believe a first-post-of-the-day-VT-claim?


Did you read how he came to that conclusion? It made a lot of sense to me - mindmeldy...

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On July 06 2015 20:54 boxerfred wrote:
You have been following the VT claim blindly, which is sheeping.


I like HF for more then the VT claim - also his interaction with rsoul.

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On July 06 2015 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485712-carnaval-do-brasil-mafia?user=rsoultin&page=5
Shit load of xP, shes mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa?user=rsoultin&page=9
way less xP, shes town.

Clearly this is definitive proof that rsoul is mafia.

Marv, you arent gonna look at the voting thread unless you vote.
Its completely pointless to vote there unless you need to do it to not get modkilled and to actually make your vote count.

I assume boxer doesnt exactly know what sheeping is.


Good case - could sheep...

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On July 06 2015 22:57 boxerfred wrote:
Okay i hardclaim cop


This was posted while marv/ksc/hard were on rsoul, and I'm pretty confident it was to throw off discussion.

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On July 06 2015 23:36 boxerfred wrote:
Yep sorry, just contributing from mobile in the Bus, throwing out ideas.
Yeah and im no cop.


I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way...

I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love.
1) Marvellosity  townie after the morning
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town
5) ruXxar  slight town
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim
8) ritoky  slight town
9) geript  slight town
10) boxerfred  null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul.
11) Meapak_Ziphh 
12) Trfel  Crap start but can be a big poster too
13) LightningStrike  Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave
18) Breshke  Ehh
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost
23) Harkon  Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - town
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X 

I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread.


^ maybe we define quips differently, but half of this is just...obvious nonsense
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:07 GMT
#5163
yes, what do you actually like in there? i see a lot of reads without explanations and narrations in that list
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:08 GMT
#5168
On July 11 2015 12:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 11 2015 12:00 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
n July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should

Do you have a read on wave?


complete null. he hasn't played. i'd say scum but i know he takes pride in his scum game so eh -_- maybe he fell down a hole somewhere. it's been days

So why do you want him to get vigged? You don't have stronger scumreads?


lol you're not serious, surely
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:09 GMT
#5169
On July 11 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote:
Let's just call it tone and be done with it


instead of mocking me, because i actually do explain my tonereads when asked, why is it so difficult for you to point out which descriptions you liked in his list? this isn't a hard question. it's like literally the only reason you're townreading him, is it not?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:19 GMT
#5177
On July 11 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 11 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote:
Let's just call it tone and be done with it


instead of mocking me, because i actually do explain my tonereads when asked, why is it so difficult for you to point out which descriptions you liked in his list? this isn't a hard question. it's like literally the only reason you're townreading him, is it not?


Holy fucking shit this is the most pointless exercise in existence. I liked the fact that he pointed out all the little things like milo town reading 3 ppl etc stc. I liked his little intuitive rsoul deflecting shit.

I don't remember off the top of my head what exactly gave me warm fuzzy feelings because it was 10,000 pages ago. It aligned with my thoughts in absolutely every way but ritoky. That's absolutely all i remember about it.

Go read the game because this is downright pointless since you don't trust me and you don't like my read on scott either.


it's not pointless for me but i'll stop talking to you since you want that and can't seem to just talk ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:21 GMT
#5179
On July 11 2015 12:18 Vivax wrote:
That list by scott has the interesting point that he accuses me of defending Trfel but at the same time posts something about him that says absoluely nothing about his alignment. The "that was crap but he can be not crap" stuff.


lots of bad associations in it, in all honesty lol >< and a lot of other useless drivel. i don't get why people post lists and include people they have nothing to say about
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:47 GMT
#5191
eh

i dunnae, like i kinda feel about mz like i did about gb...like i read his filter and i still don't really get those super scummy vibes? it was kind of ludicrous to even suggest a wagon when he'd barely read the thread yet, but i actually get what he's saying about milo and ritoky? like if we had any blues who weren't outed i'd say concentrate actions there lol >< cause town feels but knowing his alignment is kinda key to the d1 lynch

also i completely get his frustration with marv >< it's a bit wifomy and admittedly i don't know him, but scum uuuuusually doesn't take confirmed town thread leaders and antagonize them further. but maybe it resonates because i get tired of the egos myself quite frequently

(<3 marv...you've been amazing this game, though, lol, don't get me wrong. ippo made me want to strangle you at times, though)

also i think if he's town that makes it way more likely scott is scum...triple buss seems really odd here
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:48 GMT
#5192
On July 11 2015 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mz / vivax. Ebh. Breshke. Ows.

I can't shake the feeling that ebh knows what he is doing is pretty scummy.

I don't understand how your top scumread in a game with like 20+ people is an afk dude who is not even the only afk dude.


don't agree with vivax or breshke :/ ows i need to read closer but i've liked him when he was in thread?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:55 GMT
#5198
objectively mz or milo is the best shot? i mean, i think that's obvious lol >< hf being a twit aside i'm not an idiot

mz probably gives us more information, but even people not hard-scumreading milo i don't see actually thinking he could be town really, so it saves us the time of lynching him and probably hits scum

either is good. personally i think a check on mz would be better but lol >< not really expecting that to happen since everyone and their brother has already claimed
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 03:58 GMT
#5203
On July 11 2015 12:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 11 2015 12:48 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mz / vivax. Ebh. Breshke. Ows.

I can't shake the feeling that ebh knows what he is doing is pretty scummy.

I don't understand how your top scumread in a game with like 20+ people is an afk dude who is not even the only afk dude.


don't agree with vivax or breshke :/ ows i need to read closer but i've liked him when he was in thread?

So you think vivax has been posting stuff that makes sense and is reasonable? Cause I don't.

Why is breshke town?


lol i don't expect to be on the same wavelength as vivax any more than i expect to be on the same wavelength as you xP but i can follow where both of you are coming from and i think the conviction with vivax is town-indicative. his scum game is super easy to pick out cause he really just doesn't play

it's how breshke reasons things? i don't even worry about what he actually says when he talks when i read him...i look for the deeper level analysis that is always present in his town play. it's actually kind of similar to how geript reads damdy, if i read the spoiler correctly...his approach to the game is alignment-indicative
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 04:19 GMT
#5227
On July 11 2015 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 11 2015 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 11 2015 12:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Scott isn't boring at all.

The rest is a product of not posting.


He is though.

Are you gonna put in any effort at all?

Rsoul, can you explain exactly what it is that makes breshke town this game just like geript did for damdred.


okay so with breshke it's that he thinks about the game from both sides. you know how i asked him if he would be my devil's advocate this game? someone will say something, and breshke will say yeah i can see that but if you look at it like this...

he also has a very interesting way of using the setup to think about the game.

his read on me that changed after just one post, when he reasoned it out, was particularly good, especially because he deliberately set it up a certain way to test my reaction?

lol >< i hate trying to describe tonereads i really do...but it kind of comes down to it's legitimately hard for ANY player to think of the game the same way as mafia as they do as town. even your best scum players may be able to fake it for awhile but eventually they say things that they just can't believe. breshke's way of weighing both sides of an argument and deciding where he falls after reasoning it out is something i haven't seen him capable of replicating as scum

the last bit is just personal for me. i can be as oblique as i want and he gets what i'm saying when he's town xP that's how i know we're reading the same game (i.e. he's trying to solve it)
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On July 11 2015 13:18 Vivax wrote:
I still can't believe BM got lynched over him after the latter claimed.


he claimed like at the beginning of the game and then fucked off? it wasn't the best lynch, but as default lynches go cause people kept claiming shit it wasn't horrible i guess
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