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XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 21:49 GMT
#3603
Pretty much what I expected. It seemed kelsier and breshke could not care less about this night cycle and obi im still trying to meta but im not amazing at doing it with players I have little experience with.

I think this is more the kind of group that mafia resides in and not deadbeats or the obvious town (barring outliers like HF)
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 21:50 GMT
#3604
On July 09 2015 06:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 06:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright this mz/milo/ritoky thing has been beaten to death.

Anyone that wants to chime in feel free to give me your opinion on

kelsier/breshke/obi



That's my towncircle pretty much


you should definitely have a better town circle then this man lol. 2 of these 3 players havent even given a shit since the lynch ended.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 21:52 GMT
#3609
On July 09 2015 06:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Trying to meta me is a waste of time.


your town filters and mafia filters are different even if it is subtle so I disagree. I'm probably just not the right person to do it correctly.

Trying to meta some one like damdred for example, is actually a waste of time
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 21:57 GMT
#3617
On July 09 2015 06:53 ruXxar wrote:
@:XEliteBlueHunter69X

Earlier you said this:

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 12:14 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 07 2015 11:56 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
I am surprised no one has brought up Lightningstrike's curious response when asked about his scumreads...Trfel and me being his top scumreads makes very little sense to begin with, and his reasons on top of it leave a lot to be desired. He could have simply stated he was sheeping HF but he made up a poor reason that seems convoluted. I think if by some miracle trfel is town then LS would be a pretty good lynch to look at.


Elaborate?


You would have to explain what you specifically wanted to know. My conclusion is that it's clearly a tug of war here and one side contains a mafia, which I am siding with the side saying trfel is mafia. If he is town it is worth looking at the other side for mafia of course. It's a bit simplistic but I feel it works in this particular situation


Can you give a re-evaluation on this, do you still hold this stance?


No I don't, that was something stupid I said to try to justify it in my head. They can easily be town or scum independent of each other.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 21:58 GMT
#3619
On July 09 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
don't like anyone scumreading kels really :p



With his significant drop off in activity and some cues I picked up early in his posting i think its time some one brought it up. The xP analysis is a major point in his favor though. if that didnt exist I would be roasting him right now.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 23:23 GMT
#3673
so does just everyone in this game have a role or something? lol
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 23:23 GMT
#3674
and yea voting damdred
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 23:25 GMT
#3678
there is no role that is mafia tracker so by damdred confirming that the track is indeed correct is the worst possible thing he could have done. there is no he said/she said here, geript is automatically real and damdred is most likely mafia
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 23:43 GMT
#3695
My only other aside from this that im trying to think about:

if damdred indeed is mafia then that means mafia has 2 other members that they thought were better to carry KP. I would think damdred would be the ideal KP carrier in this situation where hes not that highly suspected but also a bit scummy so its not a complete loss if he gets figured out.

Usually teams default to players like this to carry KP so im trying to think about this. oh well 48 hours.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 09 2015 14:29 GMT
#4039
I mean we could talk about the palmar NK at this point and its implications given he was barely playing. There has to be at least one vet on the scum team so that narrows things down considerably for later imo. Probably just meapakk though lol.

Not really sure what else there is to discuss today so back to work.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 09 2015 14:36 GMT
#4060
my theory is that when I joined BH completely changed the setup at the last second and gave everyone a blue role so that my blue hunting would actually be useless. Genius.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 09 2015 15:41 GMT
#4083
Those were 3 people I was more null or leaning scum on and wanted outside opinions. Of course everything changed with all of today's claims, there's no reason to think my reads are very good anymore when we have likely caught 2-3 scum.

I did actually follow on up it slightly, its just a small post so you might have missed it
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 09 2015 15:42 GMT
#4084
Honestly if my filter was my filter + 8 pages of complete shitposting then I would be a townread, lets not deny that. Try to ignore filter size even though I ironically am using it to townread certain players.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 09 2015 22:03 GMT
#4468
I received LS' gun so remember to shoot me tonight mafia, thanks.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 10 2015 15:10 GMT
#4706
On July 10 2015 23:44 Half the Sky wrote:
My null/need to re-evaluate list is oats, ruXxar (I'm seeing both town and scum tells), EBH (I cannot wrap my arms around him), vivax and Scott.

Of those people I have town on I could be wrong on Boxerfred (he's a lean but still) and Ras (as stated).

I know some have their doubts on KSC and Breske I think both are town.

So two in the Damdred/milo/rit, and absent the claims all had reason to question their gameplay.

MZ and HF would be 4 for me and 5th scum is someone in my re evaluate list.


that's a shame I like hugs.

at least marv would think im cute
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 10 2015 15:21 GMT
#4714
sure I can give a basic list of updated scumreads.

Damdred
milo
meapak
trfel
Kelsier
obi

in order of sureness. Breshke would be right under that at my most scummy null but I dropped off him a bit.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 10 2015 15:57 GMT
#4747
Well for meapak a few things

the whole "oh no don't lynch BM to not lynch me I can't have that" is a scummy thing to do. Its pretty much exactly what I and a lot of other people would do as scum in that situation, try to seem reasonable and like you're actually weighing options on the lynch but intrinsically you are really just like "yea hopefully this makes me look townie and it gets them off me due to me not trying to preserve myself"

hard to explain but a town member would just be like fuck yea lynch that dirty lurker whereas the mafia KNOWS he is town so its an awkward spot for him to manage.

Then of course the palmar night kill so there has to be an old player somewhere, that's my pick.

His filter is actually decent besides that, but he's not an awful garbage player so..

most of this read is definitely sheeping though.

For kelsier I mean this is mostly an activity thing, guy just dropped off the face of the earth after day 1. Game is going to shit for mafia so far so he might have become uninterested. I already acknowledged in my opening post too that I found his playstyle different from his town game and peculiar. This sudden inactivity is only reinforcing my read.

Obi you would just have to look trhough the database and compare games. This just looks like his scumgame to me not much more to say. That's also why its my least confident though.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 10 2015 16:38 GMT
#4763
I have this feeling that damdred milo and mz only 2 are scum though. feels too easy
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 10 2015 16:45 GMT
#4766
From your own perspective that is useless though, if somebody else told me meta'ing you is useless then I might talk about it.

"stop scumreading me its a waste of time, nobody ever scumreads me correctly "

I'm sure if I said that it wouldn't really matter to you.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 10 2015 16:50 GMT
#4769
frankly it feels like a waste of time when I am not even remotely considering to lynch you for a while nor is anybody else. maybe in like day 5-6 :^)
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