EPTOn July 06 2015 16:01 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh ok well enjoy being irrelevant to me then!
Yeh ok well enjoy being irrelevant to me then!
Irrelevant means not scum if you are town. So fine by me
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Irrelevant means not scum if you are town. So fine by me | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:05 rsoultin wrote: -snorts- i don't really care to pursue this - i don't really like damdy's read - your meta on ls Has already proven to be shit - somehow missed your vote and only noticed it in the voting thread pretty damn simple there, bresh ] | ||
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I jsut don't see how you said "keep pretending this is what my problem is" when from the initial post you didn't say anything about damdred and i later explained that i voted not for my own reason but for damdreds. Trefel what are you doing? | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:15 Trfel wrote: Not much, why? I ment like in the thread i thought you had an angle. But then you started asking questions so meh. | ||
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On July 06 2015 16:19 rsoultin wrote: i missed the vote like you say early votes mean jack shit, and it was just to show how much you agreed with damdy's point. that's a pretty damn strong agreement, and wasn't the impression i got when i first read your posting. i don't get why you think damdy calling ls lazy a few pages into the game is good, certainly not that good so basically it comes down to strength of agreement Okay i follow. You were right in your last post when you said you dont care to pursue this i jsut became really bored with it aswell. Watcha think of trefel and why isn't HF trying to get you to vote him | ||
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I liked LS response to my question about scotts meta because i see how he came to that conclusion. In your lsit post ls you said you liked scotts questioning so it made you lean slightly town on him. Can you show me which questions specifically you liked? I would lynch trefel today if we need to consolidate but i cbf contributing anything about him because there is enough already with what is in the thread. | ||
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On July 07 2015 10:16 LightningStrike wrote: So clearly it shows Scott was thinking about the game but still confused if it was sarcastic or not to get a feel of rux because rux did play a very post heavy scum game. except it looks like to me that he doesn't really follow up on that question. He goes on to interact with trefel a bit but still just says "crap start can be a big poster" or something similar. So what you thought was him thinking about the game has actually drawn him no conclusions. | ||
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On July 07 2015 10:17 geript wrote: Basically it boils down to this: 1. He's playing differently than he does as town. 2. He's responding differently than he does as town. Yes. He randomly calls people scum for bad reasons; but that's not alignment indicative. Rather look at the scope of things. There's no overarching thought process behind it. Not even a bad one. As town, there is a series of thoughts behind who he calls scum and why. It will bend it's way back and forth between what he says. Rather, there's no thought behind anything whatsoever. It's just mafia this person. That's BS. There's no interconnectivity between his reads which you see when he's town. Second, he doesn't snap back at people like he did at me as town. Like he'll bring it with more of a push or a thought as to why I'm scum and push me OR he'll make a push to try and figure out what he actually thinks about things. In short, he's posting how he usually does. But it lacks the real impulsivity his town play has and lacks the theme his townplay has. Can you explain a litle more what you mean be an interconectivty in his reads? The second point is a bit hard for me to agree with because id have to take your word or read a bunch of his past games which probably won't happen. But from his filter it does seem like he does drop his push on rsoul to talk about basically nothing. | ||
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On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote: eh, chem i need to check that against something, geript i'll do it before bed tonight rsoul can you do this? I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff. | ||
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On July 07 2015 12:15 rsoultin wrote: to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_- i said i'd do it before bed. i will. if you want to actually talk then do so hmm okay I am fairly sure you are town | ||
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On July 07 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote: ...i really don't get how this read changed based on that one post, bresh Idk I just suddenly get how frustrated you are. Feels a lot like last game with the Gb stuff. Like I said my main reason i wasn't really liking you for town was because normally i can call tou town because you are saying a bunch of stuff that im thinking. That obviously isn't happening this game though but i do not think that this makes you scum because you have mainly been talking about trefel who you seem to have a read on that i along with the rest of the thread seemingly can't follow. So the question then is no matter trfels alignment do you as mafia defend trfel like this and let yourself get legitimately frustrated and up in arms after going through it last game. I think it is fairly unlikely and that you would take a path of less resistance. I even gave you an out in that post just before that you probably know as scum you could easily get me to town read you by just talking through some oats stuff with me. So i think the way you reacted makes me think you are town. | ||
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Im not sure if this is sarcasm or not. On July 07 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote: heh >< this makes sense the thing about it bresh is i never know how to really qualify my tonereads beyond things like look, humor, or hey, emotion, or that dude isn't engaging, and i don't like backing off them because the majority of the time they're right. on certain players in particular. i know i'm not infallible but i just let myself be talked out of my toneread on gb last game and that turned out so well >< i'll reconsider truffle but i can't promise anything >< we were at one point very active in skype and i feel like i've gotten a very solid read on his personality, which doesn't really shine through when he rolls scum. it's possible he could have gotten better so i'll look I'm not asking you to reconsider your read. Like obviously you should be doing that anyway eventually but if you feel strongly about it push it just dont only talk about that (which i believe is what you are trying to do) | ||
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His reads list was lackluster and jsut seems to be some surface level stuff without actually trying to work anything out. The only interesting thing is this On July 07 2015 05:26 scott31337 wrote: I'm thinking I like a milo lynch - Then Ruxxar has this post - Oats and Milo call out Ruxxar's post, but Oats does not call out Milo's post for townreading him for his "name mafia" posts. Very interesting. I'm townreading Ruxxar but not Oats and Milo. We still have two people who haven't even posted (Zipph and Elite69) for all we know they could be two out of the five mafia right there. The rest of his filter basically has "Damd mafia" "Keis mafia" "Oats town". But it feels like he is reaching and i don't really get why the AFK's get a mention halfway through. | ||
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On July 07 2015 12:45 Holyflare wrote: I'm not really sure how it's reaching? He says that Oats reacted differently to two different people that did the same thing, which is a good observation, is it not? I dunno about the afk thing, maybe he was making up the mafia list in one post and it looks a bit weird. That's my guess at least. Do need to read him though. Reaching was probably the wrong word yes. I still don't think the observation is that good because oats goes on to fling "scumslip" accusations at milo about calling ruxx out so the triangle that scott is trying to paint isnt so cut and dry as he made it seem | ||
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On July 07 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote: @bresh cause i really kind of have to place my vote tonight class tomorrow lasts until less than an hour before eod -_- and ye majority lynch so it's kinda important? Ahh well that probably complicates things | ||
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On July 07 2015 20:18 Palmar wrote: Here it is. Initially I read this post because Breshke was throwing around weird "general" type accusations like: "His reads list was lackluster" "some surface level stuff without actually trying to work anything out" "But it feels like he is reaching" Like this is why I'm only half liking breshke even though I sorta like his case. This is the type of accusations people make when they don't know what they should be saying. But it's both conceivable that Breshke made this shit up as mafia, and that he simply doesn't quite know how to present his findings as town. As almost an afterthought I read scott's post that Breshke highlighted and it's really a terrible post. The biggest thing I'm worried about is that it seems rather unlikely that scott would try to call out the entire mafia team like that if he is mafia. So... as I write this I'm officially waffling. idk what to think about either of them. Which post are you reffering to which scot called out the entire mafia team? On July 07 2015 05:26 scott31337 wrote: I'm thinking I like a milo lynch - Then Ruxxar has this post - Oats and Milo call out Ruxxar's post, but Oats does not call out Milo's post for townreading him for his "name mafia" posts. Very interesting. I'm townreading Ruxxar but not Oats and Milo. We still have two people who haven't even posted (Zipph and Elite69) for all we know they could be two out of the five mafia right there. The rest of his filter basically has "Damd mafia" "Keis mafia" "Oats town". If it is that one which im assuming it is I don't see why he would ping out the lurkers for the team when like his second to last posts he had i think 2 or 3 other scumleans that he fails to mention in this post. | ||
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