EPTTL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 192
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milo109
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milo109
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
I'll catch up in a bit. As an aside, is there any particular reason we shouldn't lynch MZ's face off? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
ritoky claims rb'd milo claims rb'd geript claims track damdred -> ritoky damdred confirms -> ritoky damdred claims JK In the night there is 1 kp on palmar and a banish notification on marv. 1 kp missing. Damdred claiming a role and confirming he visited me means that geript is either confirmed tracker or mafia with damdred in some tinfoil world. Going with the simple solution for now and geript conf town unless tinfoil needed late in game. The missing kp could mean a couple things. 1) Damdred is JK and stopped mafia from killing ritoky 2) Damdred is scum RB, targeted me; KP used on marv or other protected target 3) Damdred is JK or scum RB; KP was carried by marv 4) Damdred is JK and stopped scum ritoky from delivering KP From these explanations, I know 4 is false but if you need a reason it is this: I am good enough as mafia to not allow my team to have me deliver the KP last night. #3 is also probably false because Marv has enough of an ego to believe he would be targeted by a JK or a banisher based on his play so he wouldn't risk putting kp on himself. Which to me says me and geript are confirmed. Does this make sense or have I not thought this out properly? | ||
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geript
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geript
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 09 2015 13:05 geript wrote: Sorry Ritoky, but you're actually the perfect mafia player to deliver 1 KP. No town player with half a brain roleblocks a claimed cop without a magic read. Could not disagree with you more mechanically. | ||
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milo109
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 09 2015 13:05 geript wrote: Sorry Ritoky, but you're actually the perfect mafia player to deliver 1 KP. No town player with half a brain roleblocks a claimed cop without a magic read. I agree. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
This is why I win so much as mafia, I don't let plays like this happen lol. It is mechanically inferior to put a KP on a target of mass discussion and likely target of abilities. Particularly in games w/ potential trackers. | ||
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milo109
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
I think it's a high percentage play to keep going after MZ. He's done little to redeem the slot and the case against him is still good. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
But I want to kill MZ. So I'm going to leave my vote there for now. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:10 milo109 wrote: So.. I have to defend Damdred here, despite the fact that he is the worst JK ever if he is one. People make mistakes.. I don't understand why you have to do this? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Which will end up being marv as per usual but I'm okay with that. Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 09 2015 13:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred's claim is the worst out of the lot. If I lynched into the claims, that's where I'd lynch. Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
On July 09 2015 13:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred's claim is the worst out of the lot. If I lynched into the claims, that's where I'd lynch. Which will end up being marv as per usual but I'm okay with that. Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish. Oh yeah Scott needs to die too. He's been like gone for a long time and inform remember he saying anything that's matters lately. His d1 stuff was suspcuciiusb as fuck | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Ritoky claimed 1-shot cop halfway through day 1 when pressure started to build on him, milo claimed 2-shot cop near the end of day 1 when it looked like he was the main wagon. Day 2 starts and ritoky immediately claims he was roleblocked. town!milo was roleblocked. Obviously town would never roleblock him (having a JK defending him is not a thought anyone would have) so he should be feeling like ritoky is very likely lying at this point. However, somehow his first instinct when hearing about ritoky being roleblocked as well as him, is to: On July 09 2015 07:41 milo109 wrote: Red on Clarity. Test Clarity and Holyflare? On July 09 2015 07:53 milo109 wrote: I was roleblocked by the way. I got reactions from the two I wanted. I'll post my thoughts after dinner. So right away I have trouble putting this in town!milo's actions. He should be out to lynch ritoky and push him, not do some fake check/just kidding I was roleblocked and then leave to go look at responses later. Keep in mind that town!milo believes he was roleblocked by scum, so faking a redcheck on me would not make HF or myself slip up as scum, so the whole thing doesn't make much sense. He comes back and Damdred has claimed JK on ritoky at this point: On July 09 2015 11:14 milo109 wrote: OK... Well. I'll look out at the reactions later. First I need to figure out this Damdred stuff. The problem is I think I might even believe Ritoky. Which means Damdred would have to be mafia. But I was RBed. Almost has to be by mafia. Which means Damdred is town. Okay. Ritoky is like confirmed mafia in my world. But that claim is so odd. Whatever. Get to see the lynch. Quick note, as to why I reaction tested Clarity in particular, I thought he was the most scummy after MZ and HF. Hoped to see confirmation. But that is totally thrown out of whack by this. So I never get a check this entire game btw. Ugh. Okay so this all makes sense from town!milo's perspective: "I now know that ritoky was roleblocked by damdred. I know that I was roleblocked by mafia. Making the reasonable assumption that scum do not have two roleblockers, this means that Damdred is in fact the town JK." However he then says Ritoky is now confirmed scum. This would make night actions as follows: 1 scum kp on Palmar 1 scum kp on marv damdred JK > ritoky scum RB > milo However, milo overlooks that town!milo would consider that scum roleblocked him, damdred JK > ritoky and scum kp > ritoky. This is what makes sense if both him and ritoky are cops, otherwise scum would just let ritoky get a check off. This should be a consideration for town!milo and only for him, because he is confirmed cop. He claimed he believed ritoky but he can't be cop, yet didn't see the obvious night actions that would have ritoky be cop. On July 09 2015 12:06 milo109 wrote: Lol. What if Ritoky is mafia and Damdred is bad town and managed to somehow stop a kp. I know. It didn't happen. But would be hilarious. How does town!milo want to believe that ritoky is town, but he does not see that scum could have roleblocked him and shot ritoky?? It's because scum!milo is pretending to be town!milo. On July 09 2015 11:26 milo109 wrote: Geript will probably die in the night. Either Damdred is JK or you people lynch me. In whatever world town!milo lives, either there are two scum roleblockers (and one of them is Damdred) or Damdred is JK. This should mean to him that if Damdred is JK he is less likely to get lynched because a roleblock on him makes much more sense, however he says the opposite. On July 09 2015 12:24 milo109 wrote: Bro. My fate is tied to yours. Of course I'm defending you. You're just making it hard. Milo is correct here. However he did not say "you have to be town because of the information I have", he says "my fate is tied to you". His phrasing throughout day 2 has been like this. - Ritoky is like confirmed mafia in my world. - Unless another town RBer wants to out, or mafia has two RBer, that's what I have to believe, odd as it is. - So.. I have to defend Damdred here, despite the fact that he is the worst JK ever if he is one. People make mistakes.. Milo is talking as if he is considering someone else's point of view: scum!milo is trying to think like town!milo. tl;dr: Milo is scum. He did not call out ritoky immediately when he said he was roleblocked, despite not believing in two scum roleblockers. He is having trouble figuring out how town!milo would view the game and he makes statements that show he does not really believe what he's saying but he's "forced to" go along this path. | ||
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