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On July 08 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
plz
rsoultin hasn't really given ANY scum reads other than me
rsoultin said she had a hard on for lynching people she thought was scummy because she likes being correct
rsoultin cases me
rsoultin asks marv if i'm scum
marv says no
rsoultin completely drops it and never makes another read again
11 pages, what reads do you remember her making?
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hahaha i already forgot about fucking mz
ahahaha
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and i also thought there was only 25 mins left
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On July 08 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
plz
rsoultin hasn't really given ANY scum reads other than me
rsoultin said she had a hard on for lynching people she thought was scummy because she likes being correct
rsoultin cases me
rsoultin asks marv if i'm scum
marv says no
rsoultin completely drops it and never makes another read again
11 pages, what reads do you remember her making?
plz people stop dodging all these sick reads repeatedly
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how about looking at her filter, why does she need to defend herself doing nothing????????????
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ok while we are afk voting mz can someone please actually fucking converse with me about rsoultin and not give shitty reads that just say "no", nothing even answered anything I asked for
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On July 08 2015 05:39 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:19 Holyflare wrote:On July 08 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:On July 08 2015 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
he might be playing like mafia but then there's 4 other mafia in this game so i'd prefer we focus on those other people for a change and since HtS is blatently ignoring everything I write I don't mind lynching her at all. I don't mind milo lynch but I want people to talk about him with me. I'll be blunt here, I think you could be mafia and if you are, you have done a great job in the past derailing people with emotion and/or taking things out of context. I am still not at all impressed how/why you dropped the Trfel read or why you consider myself (or milo from your end) scummier than he. You REALLY can't understand why I think you're scummy??? After i've posted about 20 paragraphs about it and made a case? REALLY? Why do I care if you're impressed. If you town read Trfel and now I think his last post was honest and start town reading him why is your initial read of suspicion and how does that make sense for a mafia holyflare to even do. It doesn't, you're grasping at straws. You have no responses for any of the questions I raise. You misquote things, you take things out of context and then you try and spin it in a scummy way (milo post, ritoky actions) and then when I do it ONCE in this game (which isn't even true) you completely flip your read around. Your thoughts do not align with your actions. Your posts have no direction. Your scum read on milo did not progress in the slightest because you were "waiting for him to answer questions" despite him posting several times after that and I was asking him questions which you still didn't acknowledge. You keep posting how I am pushing milo but think you are also mafia which very likely makes me mafia but I am pushing milo and you think i'm mafia. That is the biggest double standard in this game. SO SO SO mafia double standardy in fact that i'm voting you. I don't even think that HtS took my words out of context, and I think his explanation of his lack of progress was reasonable, even though I still think he is scum. That first sentence of the third paragraph is so odd. When I read that I feel like I'm reading a mafia gloating about the fact that he found a genuine logic slip. Except that it doesn't actually make any sense. Even leaving aside the poor wording, mafia can push mafia. It isn't a double standard to believe it possible.
That's exactly what I'm saying lol!?!?!??! She scum read me because I was scum reading her and who she was pushing. Then she scum reads me and who I was pushing. It's a silly double standard but it is a contradiction of the thought pattern someone was having.
She definitely did take your words out of context:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=109#2163
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Like. Ok. I get it. I'm not talking about the context of voting, MZ is the locked lynch right now. I'm talking about her play so far. Let's discuss it like a normal game?
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people hate the ballsy lynches always
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On July 07 2015 07:57 rsoultin wrote:
do i really need to be all collegiate again cause that worked so well last time when y'all ignored my scumread on marv that was completely baller
for someone who says the above and then writes this post:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 15:26 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
Uh oh trfel Hm? It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. I will never back down from this busread. It's far too similar to what I used to experience and what I would be posting in that situation. You can read the thread all you want but just get this in your head. All the effort you can muster for this second game in a row will be futile. Have fun  Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:00 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 15:55 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 15:54 Holyflare wrote:Hey, your vote means nothing anyway right? What harm is it following me for a bit? I thought you were never ever going to change your read on me no matter what? Who says my vote will be changing and why would that matter? I know it's hard man. I feel your pain i really do. You're in the trolling and pointing out irrelevant crap for the sake of it part of the mafiarollingitis waiting for a scummy post or your motivation to reappear. It will happen later but it's already too late for you. Rest dear boy. Your time shall come again next game. Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:37 Holyflare wrote:
I also have no idea why you repeatedly jump to people's defences before they even speak for themselves. Not only does it inhibit people playing the game and getting their groove on but it constantly gives the people under pressure multiple outs and feelings of less pressure. Back off and go to bed. You're messing with things you don't understand. Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:44 Holyflare wrote:
What shitty logic "i know this guy best so just stop playing the game that you play where you have no information and instead of quizzing people and letting them post I'll just disregard it and blindly defend them!"
There's a reason people seemingly ignore your posts and that's the majority of the reason why. "you're 100% scum no matter what you do hahaha" "shut up bitch stop interfering with my quizzing" not only was that blatant misrepresentation of what i was doing, but it started with me saying this? like, seriously? Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:21 Breshke wrote:On July 06 2015 16:19 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote:
But nah rsoul i like damdys read so meh
I jsut don't see how you said "keep pretending this is what my problem is" when from the initial post you didn't say anything about damdred and i later explained that i voted not for my own reason but for damdreds.
Trefel what are you doing? i missed the vote like you say early votes mean jack shit, and it was just to show how much you agreed with damdy's point. that's a pretty damn strong agreement, and wasn't the impression i got when i first read your posting. i don't get why you think damdy calling ls lazy a few pages into the game is good, certainly not that goodso basically it comes down to strength of agreement Okay i follow. You were right in your last post when you said you dont care to pursue this i jsut became really bored with it aswell. Watcha think of trefel and why isn't HF trying to get you to vote him xP could get that from reading the thread i've already said i doubt trfel is scum (tone! \o/) and hf isn't an imbecile lol >< i'm stubborn as hell Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:28 rsoultin wrote:
or maybe he's already forgotten how stubborn i am, after all lol ><
pretty sure that wasn't the purpose of those questions hf xP but i'm not going to speak for him pretty damn obvious to anyone with a brain that all i was saying there was i didn't agree, and he comes back with: Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. so not only is hf misrepresenting me, but he's going out of his way to be a dick about it at the same time, and if this is his idea of just "pressuring" or "quizzing" someone, it's sure not coming through in his posts i'm not usually this fucking paranoid, but after last game when hf and bugs spent d1/n1 deliberately shitting on me and trying to throw me on tilt... especially with how well we usually get along when he's town, i highly doubt this is town hf and i really don't care if the rest of you are too chicken shit to push him i'm tired of getting nkd and watching hf win again and again has trfel posted anything amazing? no. does that make him scum? no. i read him by his off-brand of humor and a few other indicators...i usually get a solid read on him within his first page of filter. i'm good at it. i don't give a damn if you question him, but hell if you're going to bully me into shutting up by slinging shit at me, hf
On July 07 2015 03:05 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:04 Holyflare wrote:On July 07 2015 03:02 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
i've read his filter and he actually plays the game which he has yet to do despite actually being here. lol >< and you started in on him before he'd even gotten a chance to settle in? of course he eventually did stuff, and i fully expect him to again this game talk about something else we're never going to agree on this no thanks fine ^^ when can we lynch hf?
On July 07 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:41 marvellosity wrote:On July 07 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 03:37 marvellosity wrote:On July 07 2015 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
why is hf town marv? i think he's town because i intuitively grasp his reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past so mindmeld...how good is this read of yours? like in rough percentage? god. like 80%? normally what has happened is that i have a good read on HF early and then other people make me wrongly doubt it. like if HF starts pushing things i don't see then i'll reconsider, but i've not seen that yet. like it's *possible* he just happened to pick out a bunch of townreads that were the same i hadn't mentioned yet because he's just that good, but meeeeeh nh i haven't played as many games with him as you have. but the shitfight thing is a perfect read so far, and it was better than yours in ippo. i dunnae...i'll just sit on it i guess
does that look like the equivalent response???
then there's a shit fight about trfel and we get:
On July 07 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:34 Harkon wrote:On July 07 2015 09:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso and Hf stop fighting.
You make the thread unreadable when you fight like this. ^ Especially rsoultin stop defending people for no reason if you aren't going to explain anything. do you have any clue how frustrating this is? HOLYFLARE IS MAFIA maybe the all-caps will make this get through your thick skulls i'm not fucking defending truffle i'm saying hf is fucking mafia for the way he's approaching this >< whatever i'm not doing this anymore you guys keep being obtuse
and then she just talks to me normally right after discussing all the reads??
it's so irrational
+ Show Spoiler +maybe because she's a woman, probably because she's mafia
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On July 08 2015 05:51 Half the Sky wrote:HF, since you asked.... Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 08 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
plz
rsoultin hasn't really given ANY scum reads other than me
rsoultin said she had a hard on for lynching people she thought was scummy because she likes being correct
rsoultin cases me
rsoultin asks marv if i'm scum
marv says no
rsoultin completely drops it and never makes another read again
11 pages, what reads do you remember her making? Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 23:11 rsoultin wrote:
Lol ruxx/hf prob scum
Get rekt
To the rest of y'all...learn to read Pushes ruxxar after that. Is doubting that Damdred is town.... If you're going to argue that she hasn't been memorable that's a different argument I have to filter dive her to look at her other reads besides you.... Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:22 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 03:17 rsoultin wrote:
harkon, what you got?
you've been hanging back, and only one person i know i'm actually fine letting that slide with cause that's how he plays, but i don't think you're him anymore disregard i'm possibly just being more paranoid about ruxxar, because some of the biggest clues to his scumgame, apart from that damning post end-game in his first newbie where he basically described how he was playing mafia in himalayas to the world lol ><, were in the wording
he had a completely unnatural reaction to holyflare's "but i'm town guys really" whining in particular
i could retrieve the post
like my only reservation on the whole wording thing really is that it might be a language thing, but i didn't like the combination with the soft push when everyone was up my ass The only question I have after going through her filter is how/why she drops the ruxxar read for milo. Or rather why she drops the ruxxar read altogether. She talks about ruxxar quite a bit in her filter. And I don't think her read on Damdred was hard scum but she had concerns on it. I don't think I'd lynch her without her talking about that stuff though.
yes obviously she has some scum reads but they are based on useless crap like the phrasing of ruxxar's post that isn't even weird in the slightest and meant nothing and that's about it, it's not intuitive of deep at all
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lol we don't even have a majority on mz yet
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On July 08 2015 05:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 05:51 Half the Sky wrote:HF, since you asked.... On July 08 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 08 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
plz
rsoultin hasn't really given ANY scum reads other than me
rsoultin said she had a hard on for lynching people she thought was scummy because she likes being correct
rsoultin cases me
rsoultin asks marv if i'm scum
marv says no
rsoultin completely drops it and never makes another read again
11 pages, what reads do you remember her making? On July 06 2015 23:11 rsoultin wrote:
Lol ruxx/hf prob scum
Get rekt
To the rest of y'all...learn to read Pushes ruxxar after that. Is doubting that Damdred is town.... If you're going to argue that she hasn't been memorable that's a different argument I have to filter dive her to look at her other reads besides you.... On July 07 2015 03:22 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 03:17 rsoultin wrote:
harkon, what you got?
you've been hanging back, and only one person i know i'm actually fine letting that slide with cause that's how he plays, but i don't think you're him anymore disregard i'm possibly just being more paranoid about ruxxar, because some of the biggest clues to his scumgame, apart from that damning post end-game in his first newbie where he basically described how he was playing mafia in himalayas to the world lol ><, were in the wording
he had a completely unnatural reaction to holyflare's "but i'm town guys really" whining in particular
i could retrieve the post
like my only reservation on the whole wording thing really is that it might be a language thing, but i didn't like the combination with the soft push when everyone was up my ass The only question I have after going through her filter is how/why she drops the ruxxar read for milo. Or rather why she drops the ruxxar read altogether. She talks about ruxxar quite a bit in her filter. And I don't think her read on Damdred was hard scum but she had concerns on it. I don't think I'd lynch her without her talking about that stuff though. yes obviously she has some scum reads but they are based on useless crap like the phrasing of ruxxar's post that isn't even weird in the slightest and meant nothing and that's about it, it's not intuitive of deep at all
+ the crazy defences of people
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switched to bm, don't care
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On July 08 2015 06:37 rsoultin wrote:
i really don't care between mz and bm? i also don't really see the difference between the two, though at least bm has been generally more active from what i've seen of him when he's town than this
course i don't know if he was active today at all or not @.@
says the person that just played with a solidly afk bm last game
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he's chronically afk as town all the time
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if you're here, switch to bm it's quite simple
if it gets to 5 mins left and we don't have enough go back to mz
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On July 08 2015 06:42 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
he's chronically afk as town all the time Then why are you voting him?
because the alternative (mz) i don't think is that great of a lynch
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