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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 01:36 GMT
#5103
On July 11 2015 10:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 10:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:28 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:21 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote:
he's really hitting hard on that holyflare "mindmeld" on the vt claim...i've noticed it multiple times, and it makes me itch, mostly because once is eh and more than once is like yelling

hey guys! i'm vt! see see see! without actually writing it lol ><


I think I figured it out. I actually just really struggle taking your posts seriously because of the smileys. Like that's obviously my problem, not yours, but I just went through your filter and you've actually said some good stuff that I somehow just didn't pay attention to, so there's that.

Also when I defended against Damdred's case I claimed VT, soo.....


ah

i'm naturally sarcastic. the smileys are for clarity (ironically enough xP)

ppl comment on them every game and i ignore it every game pretty much lol >< yes. my filter is good. people don't read it. they also take what hf says like it's gospel when if you actually compare his "case" to what happened, it's so full of holes it leaks like a sieve

but i don't really want to talk about him right now

(and frankly i was actually ready to clear you on damdy's insta!vote at the "red check", cause like i'm working it through my head and if milo is town he should have been roleblocked/killed. so like i need to double-check when he withdrew the check but i think it was before geript claimed? yeah i have to review the timing >< if it was after geript claimed that implicates him heavily, even more than damdred being tracked to ritoky imo)


it was before lol >< yeah i really am not keeping things straight at all this game

nh, disregard that entire train of thought, then

regardless, don't see much value in scum!milo and scum!damdy faking a red and insta!voting on a scummate? kinda useless wifom, that. so again it all comes back to milo's alignment

like if he's town and assuming there's only one mafia rb and scum gambled for some reason, damdy may have voted so fast because clarity is red, but i find that unlikely...more likely to just kill both rit and milo if they're both town and not take the risk


rit is confirmed down, dear.

omg I pulled a marv, DID YOU SEE THAT??!?!?


i know? xP


Ok, well we can both be dumb together. I should really go to bed.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 11:21 GMT
#5265
On July 11 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
good post on the last page geript.

at some point i'm going to have to read everything...


It's not a huge chance or anything but there is a chance NKs are ritoky + marv so make sure it's today!

As for me, I'm around for a couple of hours now and then I won't be until the second half of d3 (Monday)
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 13:33 GMT
#5294
On July 11 2015 22:30 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 11 2015 22:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Vivax - scum lean
EBH - still null
BF - town lean - not memorable but struggles in scum hunting align with previous games.
Oats is a sparse poster I want to say town lean because he is clashing with everyone, in down under 2 he seemed to want to fly under the radar. (Not even considering carol since he really did jack all that game) I know he's not a big case poster but that's the overall impression I get from his posts. He's putting himself out there.

Scott is the other one I need to reread. And KSC I still need to recheck.


yeah that reminds me that i wanted to look at scott's town games. my idea of how he plays is actually what he says in the obs qt lol ><

as for kels...the difference between here and himalayas is night and day? i really liked his early game, though, so meh


Yeah I can agree that he's decided to do jack shit since he got townread by everyone.

He is in another game as well now though? Guess we'll see.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 13:46 GMT
#5297
Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or?

It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 13:52 GMT
#5304
On July 11 2015 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or?

It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb


eh it's kind of a longshot but it's the better play to leave him alone just in case his claim is true and he can get off a check...even if we then lynch him, we can at least know the check is real?


Yeah that makes sense. Scum have two roleblock targets (or three if they wanna find whoever has a gun). I'm looking forward to the flips.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 13:54 GMT
#5307
On July 11 2015 22:52 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or?

It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb


He claimed DT, need to force him to out that second check. Also with other high profile blues and someone armed, I'm also living in a 2 RB world.


This is silly. If we're in a 2 RB world then milo is town
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 13:56 GMT
#5311
On July 11 2015 22:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or?

It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb

he could actually be cop and he could actually get a check?


I SAID I MIGHT BE DUMB, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THE FOURTH PERSON TO POINT OUT WHY :'(
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 13:57 GMT
#5316
On July 11 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 22:53 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 22:52 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or?

It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb


He claimed DT, need to force him to out that second check. Also with other high profile blues and someone armed, I'm also living in a 2 RB world.


so you basically think milo is town or you're living an a 2 RB world separate of his alignment?


Separate of his alignment.


They're intertwined. We know that damdred roleblocked ritoky. We know that milo claimed roleblocked. Both happened night 1.


This means that if there is a second roleblocker, milo is 100% town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 14:02 GMT
#5322
On July 11 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 22:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 11 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 11 2015 22:53 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 22:52 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or?

It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb


He claimed DT, need to force him to out that second check. Also with other high profile blues and someone armed, I'm also living in a 2 RB world.


so you basically think milo is town or you're living an a 2 RB world separate of his alignment?


Separate of his alignment.


They're intertwined. We know that damdred roleblocked ritoky. We know that milo claimed roleblocked. Both happened night 1.


This means that if there is a second roleblocker, milo is 100% town.


you're missing that he still could have fake-claimed and then fake-claimed a roleblock lol >< even if there were another rb, cause not everyone is notified?

i don't find it the moooost likely scenario with 2 mafia rb's just because of how he hard-aligned with damdred, though, which is why i thought it strange hts would think there could be 2 but didn't take it into account with her milo read



Nah cause why would scum!milo fakeclaim being roleblocked when he knows that they roleblocked ritoky and X. If X is a powerrole he gets counterclaimed and lynched.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 14:03 GMT
#5324
If milo is scum and they had two roleblockers then milo would have faked a check instead, is what I'm saying.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 14:05 GMT
#5328
On July 11 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:
Generally a scumplay which relies on trying to convince the thread there are 2 mafia roleblockers, which is practically unprecedented, is very strange.


Yeah this is true and a decent point for milo >.<
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 14:13 GMT
#5341
Actually I have conversations like this with a 12 year old and it's him that gets bothered by these things and so I keep going hoping to teach him if he doesn't react I'll stop soooo...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 14:16 GMT
#5348
marv you monster
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 14:29 GMT
#5363
Anyway none of it matters. milo was scummy d1 n1, milo's whole thought process after geript track and damdred claim was super scummy, the fact that he's not pushing anyone currently or making any kinds of reads is scummy.

Shocker, milo is very likely to flip scum.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 11 2015 14:38 GMT
#5373
I'm gonna try to be here for the flips but after that I'll see you guys on monday, try not to go off rails in the mean time.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 07:02 GMT
#5889
Back now and kinda caught up. I'm really happy about the milo lynch.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 07:31 GMT
#5890
I don't like Kelsier not being here and he did seem rather whatever about the d1 lynch, but I still think he's town.

As for Vivax:
On July 12 2015 23:05 Vivax wrote:
I wanna suggest we actually all go back and look at EoD 1 given that scum should have had quite the zero fucks attitude on who gets lynched given both wagons were towns, so my assumption is they didn't show much interest into the lynch but at the same time gave some overly complicated explanation, so that's where I'll be looking now.

What do you think about this assumption?


On July 13 2015 02:55 Vivax wrote:
Btw I'm also onboard a Kelsier lynch. D1 his uninvolvement and jokey stuff was fine but now he's plain forgettable.

So I'd lynch into those three dudes (Blueh, Scott, Kelsier) and as for milo I'll need to think harder about him.


I'd be okay with a vivax lynch next. He gives out townreads like nobody's business yet has no opinion on milo who has been talked about as a lynch candidate since d1. He states scum probably didn't give a shit about the d1 lynch (convenient as he called everyone dumb for switching to BM, but did nothing to stop it), says kelsier might be scum, but somehow says his d1 is fine despite kelsier being indifferent as fuck during the last hour of d1.

I'm fine with scott too.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 08:27 GMT
#5893
On July 13 2015 17:09 Breshke wrote:
I'm kinda sad people didn't pile up on hf because that was so fake that martying like not even alignment indicative fake I don't think town it scum hf would just let himself get lynched so I wanted to see where it went

I see people are questioning their ksc reads and it's a shame he hasn't actually posted in the thread at all but I still want to and will townreads him for his early stuff felt very natural



Hi Breshke.

What exactly are you saying? Like I read this a couple of times and....
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 08:58 GMT
#5895
On July 13 2015 17:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 16:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't like Kelsier not being here and he did seem rather whatever about the d1 lynch, but I still think he's town.

As for Vivax:
On July 12 2015 23:05 Vivax wrote:
I wanna suggest we actually all go back and look at EoD 1 given that scum should have had quite the zero fucks attitude on who gets lynched given both wagons were towns, so my assumption is they didn't show much interest into the lynch but at the same time gave some overly complicated explanation, so that's where I'll be looking now.

What do you think about this assumption?


On July 13 2015 02:55 Vivax wrote:
Btw I'm also onboard a Kelsier lynch. D1 his uninvolvement and jokey stuff was fine but now he's plain forgettable.

So I'd lynch into those three dudes (Blueh, Scott, Kelsier) and as for milo I'll need to think harder about him.


I'd be okay with a vivax lynch next. He gives out townreads like nobody's business yet has no opinion on milo who has been talked about as a lynch candidate since d1. He states scum probably didn't give a shit about the d1 lynch (convenient as he called everyone dumb for switching to BM, but did nothing to stop it), says kelsier might be scum, but somehow says his d1 is fine despite kelsier being indifferent as fuck during the last hour of d1.

I'm fine with scott too.


So your argument is that I'm mafia cause I don't talk about popular lynch candidates and made an assumption basically nobody disagreed with to try and form some reads? Plus as town I'm somehow supposed to not give townreads?

What is this trash of a post.


It's only part of it, but yes. You're generally just very uninvolved, very happily being ignored by the majority of the game and how it's possible for you as town to not have some kinda thoughts on milo is beyond me.

You suggested we all go back to read EOD 1 which clearly you did not do otherwise you would have pointed out that Kelsier, who you just said is your scumread, was totally indifferent around lynchtime, yet somehow you say his d1 is fine? Hence me putting the quotes back to back.

Honestly I read you as scum because you simply do not care about this game, and from what I remember from town!Vivax is that he cared about the game as town.

Milo is getting lynched today, yet somehow you're fine with not having a read on him just yet? Yeah right.

Scummers gonna scum
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 09:26 GMT
#5897
On July 13 2015 18:16 Vivax wrote:
Your case is tons of generic bullshit that says I didn't go look at D1 only cause I didn't look at Kelsier, who I said I was fine with at the time cause D1s don't hold much information anyway, so I'm more able to tolerate people caring less or trolling, just like I ignored Palmar.

Saying I'm uninvolved is a blanket statement with no examples that's entirely false given my scum meta.

I also don't see the issue with not having a definite opinion on milo, but if he ends up being mafia I'll call you out for TMI with this case. Cause he's not the only guy I didn't give a definite read on yet you treat him as something special, clearly.

Also still didn't answer how me giving townreads makes me mafia. You just put it in there to add some more generic bs on the pile methinks.


I do see an issue with not having a read or trying to get a read on milo, he's getting lynched today. But you don't really care.

Deflecting my read as "generic statements" is ridiculous. I could easily back up my statements by filter diving you, but I cba right now.

Anyway, off the top of my head:

Your entry into the thread was kinda poor. It reminds me of whatever the name of that game was where I rolled scum and I showed up into the game late and felt pressured to have original thoughts so I ignored everything that had happened and just made a case on someone that no one had called scum yet.

"Guys, you're all being idiots for lynching BM" during EoD1 offering no alternative and just being happy in letting it happen anyway, the exact indifference you're pointing out is scummy.

Throwing out random townreads with no explanation, ignoring everything that's happening. It's just very minimal effort. It's very easy as scum to just show up, not really pay attention, look at a townie's post and call them town for it.

You're completely disconnected from the game.

If you wanna link some scumgames of yours I can take a look, though. You know, later.
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