EPTOn July 08 2015 22:56 marvellosity wrote:
did he though?
did he though?
Well I gave you my reason he looked towny. You just mentioned it.
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Holyflare
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Well I gave you my reason he looked towny. You just mentioned it. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 08 2015 22:55 Holyflare wrote: Also I pushed people to bm because at the point mz looked towny and the wagons were split and i didn't want a no lynch. Pretty simple. I really don't see anything in MZ's posting that could make me go from lock mafia lynch to lynch BM over him when you of all people said that he just played this way as town. I also don't understand how anyone could think MZ was a lock mafia lynch inthe first place. | ||
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milo109
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On July 08 2015 22:54 Holyflare wrote: I have no idea how you still scum read me for a post where I corrected your faulty knowledge and you agreed it was faulty. The ability to correct my logic does not prove your alignment either way. | ||
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marvellosity
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Harkon
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Half the Sky
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On July 08 2015 22:36 Harkon wrote: Now back to the shadows I go. Regardless of alignment HF will probably come out guns blazing and OMGUS me for this, nitpick anything he can find and whine some more. It will be annoying and I will ignore it. I had a giggle reading your comments - I brought up the same thing with his dropping the read on Trfel d1 and even ritoky (what for???) in narrowing down to milo and myself and he tried to get me lynched for it. I don't recall HF attacking Trfel (if he did I stand corrected) when Trfel popped in to give the read on HF - I think that was after he dropped me too - and even you criticised him for being irrelevant. Also he called my push uninspired (lol, whatever that means, I was at it with/on milo all of d1) and said Ras's push on ruxxar was BS but she's been back and forth with him on that. So just how he's scumreading people also was suspect, which is why I chose to look into HF's reasoning for scumreading Ras, because something just didn't seem right. His response to my thoughts on her scumreading Ruxxar and then wanting to push her still was just......ew. Trfel is a bit more contentious largely because he's been constantly behind, yet I've seen the scummy traits he's done in town games but in his favour, he had the very same problem in Assassination (a post-restricted) game as he's having here and now I think of it, I remember scumreading him in Assassination for the same reasons (which turned out to be wrong). I very well could be wrong on Trfel as well like I was in Assassination. He hasn't rolled scum often tbh in his time here and was pretty on it in NSM11. HF is still a scumread for me to be sure. It got to the point I purposely ignored him because it just fell in line with him trying to rile people (me anyways) up as I was trying to do things or read filters. It certainly fit the picture from Himalayas anyhow. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 08 2015 23:06 marvellosity wrote: i somehow feel like i need to lead this town, but i don't feel like i have a good enough grasp on the game and i'm not really feeling the inclination to put in that much work. what do Stop whining, start leading. that do | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom most of this i've already said now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness was that polite enough? also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On July 08 2015 23:06 marvellosity wrote: i somehow feel like i need to lead this town, but i don't feel like i have a good enough grasp on the game and i'm not really feeling the inclination to put in that much work. what do Is Damdred town? Normally I'd have a solid read on him at some point but I don't really have one right now and that bothers me. On July 08 2015 23:07 Harkon wrote: I also don't think MZ's defense of BM was towny at all. The more I read it the less I like it. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On July 08 2015 23:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Is Damdred town? Normally I'd have a solid read on him at some point but I don't really have one right now and that bothers me. I really don't know. I am particularly bad at reading Damdred. I'd say he was my worst read on TL Mafia right now. | ||
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marvellosity
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ObiWanShinobi
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Maybe I found something to do for the next few hours. | ||
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marvellosity
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ObiWanShinobi
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On July 08 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote: i also still think ritoky is mafia. I'd be more willing to discuss him if he survives the night. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On July 08 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'd be more willing to discuss him if he survives the night. i probably won't be here then | ||
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XEliteBlueHunter69X
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On July 08 2015 18:30 marvellosity wrote: I'm terribly glad you showed all that care about it at the time then. oh. awks. I apologize if it came off as whining, I was more trying to figure out why it happened but when we need such a large number to lynch I can see why in the heat of the deadline that people might just be like eh fuck it. My schedule didn't allow me to post yesterday until late at night but I don't like to use RL as an excuse. I'm here on and off this morning I'm not that busy this morning at work if anyone has any questions | ||
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milo109
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On July 08 2015 23:14 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I apologize if it came off as whining, I was more trying to figure out why it happened but when we need such a large number to lynch I can see why in the heat of the deadline that people might just be like eh fuck it. My schedule didn't allow me to post yesterday until late at night but I don't like to use RL as an excuse. I'm here on and off this morning I'm not that busy this morning at work if anyone has any questions no questions, just some drive to actually solve the game or something would be lovely | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On July 08 2015 23:14 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: I apologize if it came off as whining, I was more trying to figure out why it happened but when we need such a large number to lynch I can see why in the heat of the deadline that people might just be like eh fuck it. My schedule didn't allow me to post yesterday until late at night but I don't like to use RL as an excuse. I'm here on and off this morning I'm not that busy this morning at work if anyone has any questions The way this works is that you post shit on your own. Not that people ask you questions. 100% mafia. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 08 2015 23:10 marvellosity wrote: I really don't know. I am particularly bad at reading Damdred. I'd say he was my worst read on TL Mafia right now. i'm very good at reading damdy lol >< my early issues with him were - scumread on ls when it was too early to reasonably have one - concentrating on limited things instead of taking a broader view of the game - someone else mentioned he poe's by getting townreads first normally <- this is true...usually his cases come from looking into the people he hasn't already eliminated another way i read him is by emotion in his posting, but that was actually okayish, so i was kinda waffling and then he expanded his view of the game i'm pretty confident i can read him on a filter dive? just need to actually get to it @.@ | ||
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