TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 14

On July 16 2015 23:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
So much sigh in your responses, how hard is it to answer questions?

You didn't say that actually, until just now. You just gave 5 people you would lynch over HF yet you don't want to unvote HF in case he's scum??? How does that make ANY sense.

Not only that, but you have no reasons for any of the names on your list (except for me) and you somehow had a hard time admitting that you were sheeping HF.

On July 16 2015 23:23 boxerfred wrote:
My reasoning behind voting hf was sheeping ls and the idea of high risk high reward. Not lynching him since by now i feel like there is too much new information to work with, also due to hfs posts over the day. However it he flips scum in a Situation where i unvoted him ill probably be lynched next day. So i actually Think im gonna trust and even sheep hin. Off to the voting thread it goes. I committed now, lets see it it changes anything for good.

On July 16 2015 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote:

What exactly is this new information?

On July 16 2015 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote:

is this your final vote position?

On July 16 2015 23:56 boxerfred wrote:
Also Ruxxar's post catapults him to a town read in my "HF is town" world. So here's what I'm gonna do: I'll strictly believe that HF and Ruxxar and LS are town. Boom. Either that world is correct and I'm fine with any lynch that is not in between those three, or I'll go down in flames and pitchforks if my reads and believes are incorrect.

I want to lynch Clarity and rsoul with highest priority, sheeping ruxxar at that point, then with a "I'm afraid she's scum"-gutfeeling/meta-read I want to lynch HtS.

On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right?

On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:


I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes.

On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like even if you're right and HtS is scum (I don't think you are) then it's not because she hasn't voted yet. It's an absurd reason.

On July 17 2015 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote:

yeah, absolutely not a scumtell.

On July 17 2015 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote:

So if the shit was so great, why cant you decide on a lynch?

Clearly cant be that great.

On July 17 2015 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:


I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot.

I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway.

On July 16 2015 19:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
HF I kinda want to lynch you out of spite now, and the fact that I'll feel really really dumb if you're scum and I didn't lynch you. But I'm still liking your push on OWS

Decisions decisions.

Oh btw if you flip scum now I will entertain the thought that you're bussing OWS.

On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.

However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.

HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.

Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"

I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me.

On July 17 2015 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:


Is your first language English?

On July 17 2015 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:

Thats not the correct picture then.

Scum have no reason to hold their votes. They dont care who gets lynched as long as its not them. If its a good town, then its a bonus but no scum goes into the day hardpushing town hf.

Town however, cant decide who they want to lynch, so generally town are the ones with the later votes.
This is a pretty big generalization but in essence, voting late isnt a scumtell.
Unless you find HTS' games where she always votes late as scum and never as town.
Im pretty sure they doesnt exist though.

On July 17 2015 00:19 Clarity_nl wrote:


HF is a better player than you. Also you have no incentive to change your read, he does.

Also right after the phrase you bolded I explained my townread on rsoultin.