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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 19:11 GMT
#7711
I don't even care what you say past this point tbh, you're mafia for that bs.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 19:13 GMT
#7714
Also nice to see how rso was your scumread all along and now you're both holding hands and singing kumbaya.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 19:25 GMT
#7721
On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.

I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:

Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity


I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.

LS is gunsmith so there's that.

It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.

Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum.


Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis?

Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 19:30 GMT
#7728
On July 18 2015 04:28 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote:
On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.

I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:

Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity


I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.

LS is gunsmith so there's that.

It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.

Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum.


Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis?

Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish.


I never said I wouldn't listen to your analysis.
I won't listen to analysis that I consider based on false premises.
Doesn't matter who the case is about or how much I scum-read them.


So which one is your premise? That clarity has been pushed by Damdred or that Damdred didn't push his scumreads really? Cause you used both premises and they can't coexist.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 19:32 GMT
#7731
On July 18 2015 04:27 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
his play doesnt bother me but his association does. I still find it incredibly weird that so many people have this "scumread" on him and want to lynch him but not really. Strange game in general I keep changing my real reads everytime some one makes a post


Some names would be helpful. Many people and real reads and some one doesn't tell us anything.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 19:37 GMT
#7734
On July 18 2015 04:31 ruXxar wrote:
@Vivax:

It's funny how of instead of actually going back and re-evaluating whether your case was indeed correct or have a discussion with me about it, you instantly jump on me and call me mafia for pointing out that I disagree with it.


I call you mafia cause of the way you represent Damdred's play by two extremes just to make it fit into the current post, and how you ignore what your scumreads say in the meantime, and zomg, it's actually the dudes I assumed to be teammates, and whom you both should be wanting to lynch.

You have a huge disrepancy between what you say you want and what you actually want, as displayed by your choice of arguments and choice of people you talk to, and it's what you can catch scum off, just like Kelsie, clarity and rso talked about clarity's fallacy of his early post as if it meant something, and then didn't mean anything if you don't take Damdred's case on him into consideration that doesn't mean anything cause it can easily be a bus.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 19:39 GMT
#7736
On July 18 2015 04:34 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 04:30 Vivax wrote:
On July 18 2015 04:28 ruXxar wrote:
On July 18 2015 04:25 Vivax wrote:
On July 17 2015 23:58 ruXxar wrote:
Looking at the votes on HF, there's no way I can imagine a scenario with 0 mafia voting on HF.
It just seems very unlikely.

I think that you'll most likely find scum within these people:

Rsoultin
HTS
Obiwanshinobi
Trfel
Clarity


I'm fairly certain that oats is town. His whole scum-slip seance with geript earlier spoiled the fact that he's VT, and I really don't think he was faking it.

LS is gunsmith so there's that.

It really sucks that a lot of my townreads are in this list, but at this point I have to re-evaluate everyone.
I've been burned by ignoring my townreads before when they were scum so everyone is getting the same treatment here.

Among these 5 people, rsoul is my strongest scum-read so I'll use that as a springboard to see which of the other 4 could possibly be aligned with her, and also look into how that fits with the already flipped scum.


Can anyone tell me how a guy with such a list of possible scummers shouldn't be drooling at my analysis?

Instead he opposes everything I say? I wonder what his own arguments are for these people being scum, cause he sure didn't care to present them. Instead what we get is emotional, contradictory gibberish.


I never said I wouldn't listen to your analysis.
I won't listen to analysis that I consider based on false premises.
Doesn't matter who the case is about or how much I scum-read them.


So which one is your premise? That clarity has been pushed by Damdred or that Damdred didn't push his scumreads really? Cause you used both premises and they can't coexist.


I already explained this:

in context of damdreds pushes this game it's a strong push.
in context of pushes in general it's not a very strong push.

These 2 are not mutually exclusive.


Of course they are mutually exclusive, cause only one context can exist, unless you say that "this game" and "in general" are something different.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 19:40 GMT
#7737
On July 18 2015 04:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
Vivax, friend, I'm town. But we can kill ruxxar together, yes?

I'm going for a run and then I'll be around until flips


I can work with that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 20:02 GMT
#7738
Obi is 100 % not mafia cause of this post:

On July 08 2015 01:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 01:06 Harkon wrote:
On July 08 2015 01:05 Damdred wrote:
I'm done really really tired of being scum read for whatever I do whenever I'm in any games, hunt town and find scum through pie in scum for doing that. Just looking for scummy behavior and caseing it and I'm scum for that.

la te da, fuck that shit I'm getting me Chinese playing final fantasy and I'll be back near deadline fuck it

This seems like an unnecessary overreaction.


Meh to this.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 20:40 GMT
#7744
I'd feel really stupid if EBH, Bresh and WoS were mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 20:54 GMT
#7746
I just feel like scrapping everything I said and go full Ockham's razor. Damdred and Kelsier didn't give a shit about this game. WoS, EBH and Bresh don't give a shit about this game even though with exception of WoS they try to keep the appereance up that they do.

So I say you start with EBH tomorrow and if he flips mafia you just proceed with lynching the no-shit givers and if they end up town then mafia deserves to win for giving more shits than these dudes.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 21:00 GMT
#7749
Well you're clearly here to monitor whenever you're being called scummy but not to answer a simple question I've asked you when you've posted something exceedingly unspecific and generic, so I don't think I'll regret getting you killed if I survive tonight.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 21:05 GMT
#7751
Current working theories are either my usually tinfoilish theory of a clarity/rso/Ruxx scumteam that is more in line with what HF said or scum has simply been super afk all game long.

Only way to find out is to lynch into each of the groups and see where it bleeds red.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 21:08 GMT
#7753
On July 18 2015 06:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
vivax is reading the person as scum that he said he is going to do this game, huge logical gap. He said he is a plumber that plays when the politicians leave which is exactly my playstyle. yet somehow now im scum for it. lmao.

this town tho


You spend all of your energy on crying about being scumread instead of solving the game, that much is clear by now.

Get lynched tomorrow pls
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 21:29 GMT
#7754
I also have a sneaking suspicion that it's not VA but yamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#7756
On July 18 2015 06:32 rsoultin wrote:
??

it's va lol ><

pssssst viva, don't look now but you're scumreading like over half the game xP


It's only like a quarter with the conditional I attached
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 17 2015 21:40 GMT
#7763
So if you wanna lynch OBI at ANY point you gotta get over my dead body cause there's no way in hell he just shits on harkons opinion like that expecting him to be a town jat pressuring a potential obi scumbuddy without trying to gain somethinng beneficial for himselg.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 22 2015 22:13 GMT
#8679
well played mafia
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