EPTTL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 11
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On July 19 2015 01:57 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: its sad because I really like the people on ruxxar barring rsoultin heavily and I don't think ruxxar is scum. So you think ther scum is in rsoultin, bf, WOS, Oats? or you think i am fakeclaiming? | ||
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On July 19 2015 02:14 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: i dont know what to think, I stopped putting in serious effort so i wouldnt pay attention to my thoughts anyway because im barely reading this game. Reading vivax filter ruxxar is probably mafia. you dont know what to think but you townread 4 out of the remaining 10 players while another two can basically be cleared when you decide on my claim. Seems like you had the game basically solved pity you flipped your read on ruxxar. | ||
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On July 19 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I can lynch Bf. That statement is probably the second time I remember him saying something that made no sense as a scumread. I dont think these types of things make BF scum though. | ||
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On July 19 2015 13:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Do you have a better idea? My proposal is to lynch either him or wave. No, I have a gut feeling we should lynch rsoultin but i cant quantify it nor have reason to trust it, Like i want to vote someone that voted on HF because im fairly sure there is two scum on that wagon which might also be a reason why vivax was killed instead of HTS if HTS is town. Holyflare (8): LightningStrike, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, Half the Sky LS is dead, you are town and im fairly sure oats is town. Then im less sure of these but i think HTS is town and trfel even less sure. So it leaves me with Wos, Rsoul and clarity. A WoS lynch is boring so I guess i want to lynch clarity or rsoul | ||
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On July 19 2015 14:00 rsoultin wrote: i dunnae, bresh. i'll look into it again more closely, i guess, but frankly with the numbers of the players right on the OP, i'd call it playing dumb. i'd call it playing dumb for him to repeatedly reference a game hts wasn't even in while i'm aware that it's a personal bias of mine to be resistant to the idea that someone actually is stupid, it's a bias i don't mind having the bigger question is who is scum if not him? i'm not ^^ you can lynch me and find out for sure and go straight to mylo, if you want. my give a shits this game are coming in short supply for all the non-reasons people have to think i'm scum you seem to think ruxx isn't for whatever reason -_- who does that leave, bresh? You, clarity, VA and WoS. I can understand your frustration if you are town, i know im not even really presenting reason on why you are scum other than dead peoples opinions and some shitty votecount thing. Talk to me about this rsoul. Your curent world is a scumteam of Ruxxar, BF and EBH. None of these people voted on HF yesterday do you think it is viable to believe that scum didn't vote on him at all? | ||
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On July 19 2015 14:30 rsoultin wrote: should i bother? like i doubt you can understand my frustration at all. i do not believe that a town ruxx would think this way, and even if he did, wouldn't bother reading my filter or trying to determine my alignment all game i already told you that i thought ruxx, bf, va, wave, clarity were where you'd find the scum, and yes, that's in the order of certainty no. in all honesty i don't think it was terribly likely that there were no scum on hf lol >< i'm just not seeing many people who i think are particularly scummy on his wagon? i was looking into obi before you cleared him and i'm not 100% sold that clarity is town, or wave, but as for the rest...-shrugs- i do think it's a bit ridiculous to base your scumreads off arbitrary "there must be 2 on the wagon and 1 off" sort of assumptions, however, instead of actually evaluating the play. why must that be the case, and why use an assumption based on nothing like that when it could easily lead you astray? like, seriously, if scum can get away with not voting for hf, you don't think they would? what's more concerning to me and what should be more concerning to y'all is that these alternate wagons of 1s and 2s were never ever going to be lynched but all the "dissenters" parked on different ones instead of at least agreeing on a counterwagon. it's ridiculously pointless to waste a vote like that, especially for people so sure that hf is town i dunnae. no, i don't think all scum voted off-wagon but i'm going to look for who i think is scum frankly, if you hadn't claimed jk with reasonable logic behind that claim, your single vote on the sidelines there looked pretty bad to me -_- while talking about not liking the lynch yeah hence why i used my power early lol. I knew where i stood. I'm not solely basing my reads off of that there has to be 2 on the HF wagon but it obviously needs consideration because there IS scum on that wagon. The reason i think you are scum is because you had this long fight with HF and nothign was achieved your read on him hardly changed and it was just tedious. Then after he flips you start doing the same thing with ruxxar. I don't feel like you have taken HF's reads into account now and as town i feel like you WOULD do this because you hate it when people ignore you after you die. I wasn't exactly sure HF was town anda majority of the people who thought HF was town also thought iw as scum so me consolidating with them wasn't really going to happen. | ||
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On July 19 2015 15:42 Trfel wrote: Clarity_nl's been posting and active. Why? The game has been depressing, there has been a million pages, town has had some terrible role claims and some terrible lynches. And Clarity_nl is still going, just as confidently as ever, just as active as ever. But he took a break to completely switch his read on Holyflare, willing to lynch him just for martyring? This isn't something that someone who is calm, and is actually caring about the game, would do. Someone tell me why I'm wrong. playing devils advocate, it was like the third time HF did it, straw that breaks the camels back etc. I think you have a good point though | ||
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Also there was like at least 3 people in the night that said they wanted to kill me. Also there was the possibility that mafia had a role cop still and they had just randomly used it on me. ##Vote Rsoultin I said some shitty reasons before but it is good enough for now. Clarity says too many things that make sense especially that last big post. I also find it really weird that VA says he likes 4 people and then all he has to do is make a decision about my claim and he has auto yet he decides to flip his read on ruxxar for shitty wifom reason that vivax scum read him even though there is a bunch of explanations on why vivax died. But still I want to lynch either clarity or rsoul today and like i said im liking clarity more. | ||
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On July 19 2015 22:48 Oatsmaster wrote: If mafia kills you, your jk literally doesnt matter. Can you quote the posts where people want to kill you? Doesnt my thingy stll go off if i die? On July 17 2015 23:19 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: how can you say these things with a straight face in the same sentence? breshke LITERALLY just parked his vote on ruxxar all day last cycle and did nothing and that is the basis of your scumread impossible to know who is town or mafia in this game because there are huge gaping logical errors and double standards on every page I read On July 18 2015 00:04 Clarity_nl wrote: Holyflare (8): LightningStrike, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, Half the Sky Breshke (2): Vivax, XEliteBlueHunter69X rsoultin (2): ruXxar, boxerfred ObiWanShinobi (1): Holyflare ruXxar (1): Breshke Here's where I stand, which actually makes the lynches quite easy. I would start with ruxxar, then OWS + Breshke in some order and then rsoultin if necesarry, easy game. | ||
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On July 19 2015 22:45 rsoultin wrote: o.0 yeah bresh is male, not sure why that's important but he probably doesn't appreciate being virtually castrated lol >< (truffle, stating my opinion on you when asked isn't defending you xP but if you want me to pretend i think you're scum when i think you're town...that's kinda silly) i don't see how i'm not considering hf's reads, bresh? there is a world of difference between considering a player's reads and blindly sheeping them. did you forget ruxx was one? anyone voting for me or scumreading me right now who has not read my filter (looking at you, bresh, among others) should be ashamed, and that's all i'm going to say regarding this "all you did was fight with hf/now all you're doing is fighting with ruxx" bs and nope, va ^^ i'm sorry he was town, but i'm not sorry he's out of the game and i'm not going to pretend otherwise. you don't like it? too bad oats...i didn't think it was that unreasonable for bresh to try to use his role defensively as jk? statistically it's more likely to be effective than early game as well just cause there are less players. is that one quote from damdy's claim the main reason you're doubting him? Idk i just feel like you would be thrown into doubt when HF flipped town since you seemed fairly sure but maybe im thinking more how i would react than how you would react. Also i wasn't using my JK defensively i wasnt going for a save i was going for a RB. Can you talk to me about the stuff i said about VA i dont think its as good as i think it is | ||
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On July 19 2015 22:59 Oatsmaster wrote: so thats like 2 people and one of them has absolutely no pull with the thread. Also, clarity doesnt even want to lynch you first. Meh, I think you are town, cheers xP. Yeah tbh i thought there was more maybe i couldnt find them or maybe i fucked up. | ||
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On July 19 2015 23:14 Clarity_nl wrote: Oats if you've read my filter I shine with tryhard townie thoughts, lynching me because of something you consider "dumb" is terrible and you should reconsider. Yeah but we wouldn't know why a kp was missing and it wouldn't give us an extra day, so you have to be alive for your jk to mean anything  my last post before daypost was obi jk haha i think you guys could have worked it out. On July 19 2015 23:14 rsoultin wrote: you're right, offensively was the correct word lol >< and actually what i meant. i'm just half-awake the crux of your scumread is after being wrong on hf i shouldn't have other strong scumreads? that's...kinda ludicrous? like look at it from my perspective. i know i'm town, and hf was obviously town. hf being town actually just cements the feeling i've had all game that ruxx was making up shit to take sides there...like his huge argument the day we lynched hf was hf looked townier than i did? you probably aren't reading our posts cause they're tedious and even i don't want to -_- but it's basically turned into a rsoul i'm scumreading you for doing this! only that's not what i did? yes you did! no i didn't! -_- i dunnae how to explain it really but i feel that a town ruxx would at least look back to make sure that what he thought was what actually happened, and it seems a hell of a lot like he was setting me up for when hf flipped town. he says now he's scumreading me for basically being an asshole to him, but before it was definitely for "defending" truffle which i've said dozens of times this game he's seen me do as TOWN in the only game we've played together i kinda just want to leave my vote on him, yet y'all lynch me and demand you lynch him the next day when i flip town, since it worked so well for hf lol >< mindless lemmings meh, i dunnae how that necessarily makes va scum? like i get why you think it does, cause it's him "keeping his options open" or whatever, but va does the nk wifom thing (pretty imprefectly lol ><) on a regular basis. i've seen it in all his town games...not sure if he does it as scum or not That is half my point thought the arguments felt useless like i wont lie i didnt read the big post from him today nor your reply to it because it just feels like a bunch of he said she said. So we lynch ruxxar and he flips town. Who do youw ant to lynch tomorrow? I know i asked something like this before but im trying to get a clear picture | ||
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On July 19 2015 23:26 rsoultin wrote: you did and it hasn't changed xP i still think scum is between va/bf/wave/clarity if ruxx flips town, but i'm pretty sure he won't ^^ and yes, the arguing is pointless and that's why i stopped. he decided hf was town and i was scum 12 hrs into the game for reasons that aren't even accurate. like you accuse me of having unchanging reads lol >< when i've actually tried to work with both of them like maybe va is a better shot for flipping scum than bf and i'm just being too hopeful thinking that people really aren't that...eh, i have no nice way to describe bf if he's not scum so i'm not going to go there -_- va completely forgot his townread on hf. then when hf is being lynched he suddenly remembers again, and it's for the same reason that always existed? like, how is that possible? hf wasn't just a townread, either; he was va's most confident townread. i don't think a town!va forgets that, and him trying to use this "i was right on hf" for towncred makes it look even worse. his memory lapse was very convenient, imo Why is clarity on the list? (yes at the end but im sure there is still a reason) | ||
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On July 19 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote: eh >< fuck it ruxx may actually be town if he really thought you and hf were masons not because neither of you were nkd, but that explains his damned bullheadedness all game I dont think he believed it past like D1 though right? So that shouldnt clear the attitude you disliked for the entire game | ||
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Also rsoul i might be wrong he talked about his voting patterns on D1 in one of the masons posts and i incorrectly took it as meaning he dropped the mason thing after D1 | ||
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