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milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 03:42 GMT
#4516
Pretty sure that if we lynch the votes on BM in order of their voting excluding confirmed town, Damdred, and Marvel, we win the game.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 03:50 GMT
#4520
Based on that I have a new town list.
Confirmed:xP
Oats
Trfel
EBH
Ritoky
Scumdred
geript
LS
Harkon. Sigh.
Marvel
Ruxxar

My lynch order:
HF
Boxer
Clarity
Scott
Vivax
WoS
MZ
HtS
OWS
Kelsier
Breshke
Whoever I forgot
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 11:51 GMT
#4613
I don't understand why people keep saying there are too many roles. This is a 25 person game. 3 cop checks is not excessive.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 11:55 GMT
#4616
On July 10 2015 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 10 2015 20:51 milo109 wrote:
I don't understand why people keep saying there are too many roles. This is a 25 person game. 3 cop checks is not excessive.

yes it is, really

Perhaps I'm used to video mafia. I hear you forum people get less roles.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 14:25 GMT
#4676
Am I allowed to ask why I am auto? Is it because you believe Ritoky is town and don't think there are two RBs? Is it because I refuse to be bullied off my reads? Or is that I'm way too good at predicting the game?
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 14:38 GMT
#4685
So as town how do I refute the accusations of TMI? Do I just concede and throw reads out there until I'm lynched?

Clarity, I never saw that. I'll respond to it over lunch.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 15:24 GMT
#4716
Fine. I'll vote for myself on the condition that if I flip two-shot cop, you lynch HF and if he flips red you lynch boxer.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 15:36 GMT
#4734
Clarity, I said I would get to it at lunch. But I'm not really in the mood to write up a long rebuttal that will just be ignored. I'll be back after the flip.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 21:15 GMT
#4925
So um. Damdred will flip town. Look at me. So much information. Then Ritoky/Geript will die at night so that they have the easiest mislynch ever on me. Perhaps they'll do Harkon/Geript in the hopes that when I flip cop they can get a mislynch on me. I'm actually a seer that is given wisdom by the Gods.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 21:16 GMT
#4927
when I flip cop they can get a mislynch on ritoky*
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 21:17 GMT
#4928
I would approve a switch from Damdred onto me, by the way. It probably makes life easier for town.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 21:21 GMT
#4931
Why? It's probably town favored, if you think Damdred might be town. Unless you think we are mafia together, it makes sense.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 21:31 GMT
#4940
Lol. Dis game tho.



I am confirmed mafia. AMA.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 21:35 GMT
#4943
I really just want to flip.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 22:17 GMT
#5008
Lol. RIP me. I'll do it Clarity, but not until tonight.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 10 2015 22:22 GMT
#5011
Ritoky/Geript killed tonight, me roleblocked.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 02:30 GMT
#5127
On July 11 2015 11:21 ruXxar wrote:
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On July 11 2015 11:08 rsoultin wrote:
so what's your read on milo independent of the claim, ruxx?

stating the obvious is boring


I don't particularly like milo's play up until this point.

The things I didn't like primarily was his push on LS, and his interaction with damdred was strange.
I'll have to re-evaluate that from a standpoint of him actually being a real cop, seemed strange how certain he was that damdred was the real JK though.

In general I don't like the tone of his posts. I made a tone-read earlier:
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On July 11 2015 03:26 ruXxar wrote:
Milo's play has been shallow and unconvincing.
It's like he's trying to appear interested, but not really.
His flow is unnatural and uninspired.




Meh. It's really hard to stay interested as a cop when you're forced to out day 1 and then this BS has happened. I haven't had a chance to play. My reads are discounted, which they will continue to be until I flip. It's a measure of my frustration at this game that I considered faking a check for tomorrow, and holding to it until I die. Then when you realize I'm the actual cop, you actually have to lynch my scum read.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 02:32 GMT
#5132
Also if you think I would ever give up as scum, you're insane. I wouldn't let my partners down that way. But there are 18 of you town, so get along without me.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 02:33 GMT
#5134
Nah. I suppose I'll do that now.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 02:44 GMT
#5139
On July 09 2015 14:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ok so town!milo has an interesting point of view here. He's the only person that knows he is cop while everyone else is in doubt.

Ritoky claimed 1-shot cop halfway through day 1 when pressure started to build on him, milo claimed 2-shot cop near the end of day 1 when it looked like he was the main wagon.

Day 2 starts and ritoky immediately claims he was roleblocked. town!milo was roleblocked. Obviously town would never roleblock him (having a JK defending him is not a thought anyone would have) so he should be feeling like ritoky is very likely lying at this point.

However, somehow his first instinct when hearing about ritoky being roleblocked as well as him, is to:

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On July 09 2015 07:41 milo109 wrote:
Red on Clarity.


Test Clarity and Holyflare?

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On July 09 2015 07:53 milo109 wrote:
I was roleblocked by the way. I got reactions from the two I wanted. I'll post my thoughts after dinner.


So right away I have trouble putting this in town!milo's actions. He should be out to lynch ritoky and push him, not do some fake check/just kidding I was roleblocked and then leave to go look at responses later. Keep in mind that town!milo believes he was roleblocked by scum, so faking a redcheck on me would not make HF or myself slip up as scum, so the whole thing doesn't make much sense.

I have never in this entire game truly believed ritoky scum. Hey look TMI. Or being able to read people. Probably the former though, right? :> So I wanted to see how mafia would react to a red check they obviously knew was fake.

He comes back and Damdred has claimed JK on ritoky at this point:

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On July 09 2015 11:14 milo109 wrote:
OK... Well. I'll look out at the reactions later. First I need to figure out this Damdred stuff. The problem is I think I might even believe Ritoky. Which means Damdred would have to be mafia. But I was RBed. Almost has to be by mafia. Which means Damdred is town. Okay. Ritoky is like confirmed mafia in my world. But that claim is so odd. Whatever. Get to see the lynch.

Quick note, as to why I reaction tested Clarity in particular, I thought he was the most scummy after MZ and HF. Hoped to see confirmation. But that is totally thrown out of whack by this.

So I never get a check this entire game btw. Ugh.


Okay so this all makes sense from town!milo's perspective: "I now know that ritoky was roleblocked by damdred. I know that I was roleblocked by mafia. Making the reasonable assumption that scum do not have two roleblockers, this means that Damdred is in fact the town JK." However he then says Ritoky is now confirmed scum.

This would make night actions as follows:
1 scum kp on Palmar
1 scum kp on marv
damdred JK > ritoky
scum RB > milo

However, milo overlooks that town!milo would consider that scum roleblocked him, damdred JK > ritoky and scum kp > ritoky. This is what makes sense if both him and ritoky are cops, otherwise scum would just let ritoky get a check off. This should be a consideration for town!milo and only for him, because he is confirmed cop. He claimed he believed ritoky but he can't be cop, yet didn't see the obvious night actions that would have ritoky be cop.

I mentioned this multiple times as a possibility, before Harkon claimed. Afterwards... I think you know that this renders this impossible. WAIT. WTF. I MENTIONED IN THE NEXT QUOTE THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE SCUM KP > RITOKY. Worst Case NA
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On July 09 2015 12:06 milo109 wrote:
Lol. What if Ritoky is(isn't*) mafia and Damdred is bad town and managed to somehow stop a kp. I know. It didn't happen. But would be hilarious.


How does town!milo want to believe that ritoky is town, but he does not see that scum could have roleblocked him and shot ritoky??

Er... I did a typo in the above quote. Obviously there wouldn't be a KP on a mafia ritoky. It was meant to be isn't.

It's because scum!milo is pretending to be town!milo.
Meaningless sentence is meaningless

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On July 09 2015 11:26 milo109 wrote:
Geript will probably die in the night. Either Damdred is JK or you people lynch me.


In whatever world town!milo lives, either there are two scum roleblockers (and one of them is Damdred) or Damdred is JK.
This should mean to him that if Damdred is JK he is less likely to get lynched because a roleblock on him makes much more sense, however he says the opposite.

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On July 09 2015 12:24 milo109 wrote:
On July 09 2015 12:22 Damdred wrote:
Like, after I flip though just off of a gut reaction

Milo is sorta soft defending me idk why he keeps saying oh I don't believe this at all. But I'm going to defend this guy because people make mistakes. It just feels off to me this game.

Look at rsoultin who soft pushed me yesterday and part of the night and never really gives a read on me before the check besides soft I don't like x. It just feels mafia at this point with everything going on, I think hf is town and usually when hf and RS are town they shit fight. I think could be a scum here.

Oats has been super opportunistic all game first with geript or rotating around, now he's focusing only on me. While I don't think this is that indicative its interesting and should be looked at.

Geripts claim is real it feels like, I believe ritokys claim at this point over mills.

just a few random thoughts while I'm on break


Bro. My fate is tied to yours. Of course I'm defending you. You're just making it hard.


Milo is correct here. However he did not say "you have to be town because of the information I have", he says "my fate is tied to you". His phrasing throughout day 2 has been like this.

- Ritoky is like confirmed mafia in my world.
- Unless another town RBer wants to out, or mafia has two RBer, that's what I have to believe, odd as it is.
- So.. I have to defend Damdred here, despite the fact that he is the worst JK ever if he is one. People make mistakes..

Milo is talking as if he is considering someone else's point of view: scum!milo is trying to think like town!milo.


Lol. Pls. I'm narrating my thoughts.
tl;dr: Milo is scum. He did not call out ritoky immediately when he said he was roleblocked, despite not believing in two scum roleblockers. He is having trouble figuring out how town!milo would view the game and he makes statements that show he does not really believe what he's saying but he's "forced to" go along this path.


tl;dr Case lacking any actual substance. It looks big and strong but all of the points are little nitpicks that he hopes will strike home. Why is there no mention of TMI? Of me hard defending Damdred? Of all the other fun scummy stuff I did?
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