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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 12 2015 04:54 GMT
#5671
On July 12 2015 13:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3.
I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia.

Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two?


Do you have any thoughts on Kelsier possibly being scum?


None whatsoever.
Does anyone have a reason for calling him scum or what? I'd presume there's a reason his name is being dropped aside from the fact that he hasn't posted 2359623405263 times in the last hour or so.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 12 2015 05:24 GMT
#5681
Shut up scott.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 12 2015 14:53 GMT
#5777
On July 12 2015 23:14 Vivax wrote:
This fits the profile.

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On July 08 2015 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.

But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next.


Should just do it now tbh. The downside of being wrong on an active player is always, always worse than killing someone that won't post and won't do things.

Information lynches are spectacular and I love backing them, but there aren't that many despite the amount of associative reads being thrown around (which I, myself, put no stock into because associatives are hard to determine as a whole and most people get them wrong anyway)


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On July 08 2015 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(Plus there's the fact that MZ threw his vote away on someone that was never getting lynched today for no reason, which was scummy.)


Plus Ruxxar voted him without saying anything basically, and didn't say anything when rso voted for him as well.


Nice misrep.
I spent the later parts of day 1 defending ritoky and pushing MZ.
I don't see how this is relevant anyway.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 12 2015 15:01 GMT
#5781
On July 12 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 23:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 12 2015 23:14 Vivax wrote:
This fits the profile.

On July 08 2015 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.

But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next.


Should just do it now tbh. The downside of being wrong on an active player is always, always worse than killing someone that won't post and won't do things.

Information lynches are spectacular and I love backing them, but there aren't that many despite the amount of associative reads being thrown around (which I, myself, put no stock into because associatives are hard to determine as a whole and most people get them wrong anyway)


On July 08 2015 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(Plus there's the fact that MZ threw his vote away on someone that was never getting lynched today for no reason, which was scummy.)


Plus Ruxxar voted him without saying anything basically, and didn't say anything when rso voted for him as well.


Nice misrep.
I spent the later parts of day 1 defending ritoky and pushing MZ.
I don't see how this is relevant anyway.


You're pretty hissy given that my next post basically invalidated the one you quote. Maybe finish reading before you snap.


You didn't say that though.
How am I supposed to know that you think those quotes invalidate each other and why would you even bother posting it if that's the case?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 12 2015 15:24 GMT
#5785
I've been talking about scott forever. Scott is still a fantastic lynch I think.
Are we really going to push that over a milo wagon today though?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 12 2015 16:20 GMT
#5808
On July 13 2015 01:17 milo109 wrote:
HF is trying to get plausible deniability for when I flip town. Do not listen to anyone who defends me today later on in the game.


lmfao what
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 13 2015 15:36 GMT
#5984
I am not a shitter. D:
No I'm here but I'm at work until after deadline. Don't really see a reason to move my vote.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 13 2015 21:33 GMT
#6175
Hf weren't you sleeping trfel on Scott? How is it that they're both scum?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#6187
Terrible modkill imo.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 02:11 GMT
#6346
On July 14 2015 10:47 Breshke wrote:
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment


Does this make them mafia together or what?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 02:26 GMT
#6349
On July 14 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 10:47 Breshke wrote:
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment


Does this make them mafia together or what?


No it doesn't really mean much about HF's allighnment


It just seems like such a weird point to focus on.
I don't really get how this says anything about ruxxar really?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 02:32 GMT
#6352
On July 14 2015 11:29 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 11:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 10:47 Breshke wrote:
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment


Does this make them mafia together or what?


No it doesn't really mean much about HF's allighnment

really?
Dont you think its hard to call your mafia teammate town when hes obviously not?


I don't think you could say HF is "obviously not" town.

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On July 14 2015 11:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 10:47 Breshke wrote:
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment


Does this make them mafia together or what?


No it doesn't really mean much about HF's allighnment


It just seems like such a weird point to focus on.
I don't really get how this says anything about ruxxar really?


Tell me why does ruxxar townreadread HF?


Do me a favor and tell me instead? Or at least quote it? I'm not reading through this slog of a game to find something about a player that I haven't really had any ill-will towards this game, especially when it seems like such an irrelevant point to me.

Also, I'm going to start posting bigger posts to hopefully keep my filter/the game readable.

If anything I thought kelsier's analysis of Hf was scummy because he fixated on things that didn't really exist in order to read Hf as town, especially when I've seen him pull that kind of analysis as mafia before.

Dnu. Kelsier had a really strong early game and I know people are dropping his name but I can't really seem to find the basis for that either. /shrug

What did you think of that and how is ruxxar's read on Hf scummier than that?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 02:43 GMT
#6360
On July 14 2015 11:37 rsoultin wrote:
i think it's kinda obvious what trfel is saying, ows? (and a really good point, lol ><)

ruxxar just got out of a game where he was scum with hf and saw him somehow survive a red check through three consecutive day phases, so if anything he should at least be somewhat wary of hf's alignment? almost the entirety of the rest of the game is, and we've all seen hf play as both alignments numerous times. it's weird he's that certain

like if hf is town this game, i think ruxx buddying up like this and acting like his parrot is even scummier, to be completely honest


I get the point, but I've been in the same position because I hard townread Hf in a game a long, long time ago right after he beat me as scum.
Just because it's Hf doesn't mean that people can't legitimately townread him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 03:08 GMT
#6364
On July 14 2015 11:49 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:37 rsoultin wrote:
i think it's kinda obvious what trfel is saying, ows? (and a really good point, lol ><)

ruxxar just got out of a game where he was scum with hf and saw him somehow survive a red check through three consecutive day phases, so if anything he should at least be somewhat wary of hf's alignment? almost the entirety of the rest of the game is, and we've all seen hf play as both alignments numerous times. it's weird he's that certain

like if hf is town this game, i think ruxx buddying up like this and acting like his parrot is even scummier, to be completely honest


I get the point, but I've been in the same position because I hard townread Hf in a game a long, long time ago right after he beat me as scum.
Just because it's Hf doesn't mean that people can't legitimately townread him.


lol i'm aware of that, ows...and there are people in this game legitimately decent (at least above average for this general group of players) at reading hf. i'm one of them and i'm not certain. neither are others

like, it's not so much the hard townread as it is the hard townread from the start with no questioning it


I'm not voting ruxx because you guys think he isn't paranoid enough.
Try something else.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 06:22 GMT
#6377
I am not enjoying this game.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 16:14 GMT
#6532
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 16:16 GMT
#6536
On July 15 2015 01:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really.


I'm not. Apparently Oats and HF think you are...


Hf is mafia so who gives a shit what he thinks.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 16:18 GMT
#6540
On July 15 2015 01:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really.

dont bother wasting your time if thats your only thought process.


Shut up oats.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 16:19 GMT
#6544
On July 15 2015 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really.

dont bother wasting your time if thats your only thought process.


Shut up oats.

You gotta take it like a man.


lol
I love you Oats. Never change.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 16:29 GMT
#6553
On July 15 2015 01:26 Half the Sky wrote:
So OWS, are your top scumreads still EBH/Scott? Or someone else?


I've seen absolutely nothing in the last hundred pages to make me change my mind.
I love lynching low-impact players that don't post.

Hf is also possibly mafia.
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