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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 16 2015 22:14 GMT
#7604
On July 17 2015 07:10 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 07:07 Breshke wrote:
This is gonna rustle some people but if you think we arnt lynching one of HFs scum reads tomorrow's then your dreaming.

Would even prefer Clarity over Rsoul at this point


I rly don't know based on my own reads yes. But Marv and JAT died saying there was one between HF and rsoul (I think?) and rsoul was hfs most sure scum read. So she is objectivly a better lynch since my reads are dumpster
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 16 2015 22:16 GMT
#7606
On July 17 2015 07:12 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 07:11 Breshke wrote:
I still think hts is town boxerfred but I haven't looked at the thing HF linked yet

okay I guess. After all we have one mislynch left, right?


No we have two I'm fairly sure everyone was doing maths earlier you missed out

Also why is rsoul saying no one is lynching her bullshit? Seems fairly standard
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 16 2015 22:17 GMT
#7607
On July 17 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 07:12 boxerfred wrote:
On July 17 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote:
On July 17 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote:
On July 17 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
depends on who his scumreads are, bresh. there are at least a few people i refuse to lynch lol ><


M8 you are one of them.

Hence why the phase is going to be shit.



yeah? no one's lynching me ^^ i'll take a look at his other reads, though

What a huge BS post.


how is it bs? lol...like seriously i'm just saying it's not gonna happen. if you want to make it bs by trying to lynch me, be my guest

anyway, i'm out for awhile. sucks that i was wrong, but frankly, i'm kind of glad to not have him sniping at me every turn even if he was town

also, ruxx looks super bad for the hard defend, just sayin


Ehhhhhhh Wpuld you be saying Ruxxar looked any better if he had flipped mafia though
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 16 2015 22:29 GMT
#7620
Vote analysis sucks This game LS. All you have is this phase and it's still meh.

Why does Ruxxar as scum not flip his read though. He was given plenty of oppurtunities.

I'm out 4 realz now though
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 17 2015 21:59 GMT
#7777
Obi jk
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 17 2015 22:09 GMT
#7781
Obi probs town
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 17 2015 22:15 GMT
#7782
To be clear I jailed obi. I was attempting to hold it until two mafia left but I didn't want to be claiming in mylo so what is done is done. I think he is very likely town just by the fact that if I jailed the one scum not delivering KP then fuck me
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 17 2015 22:20 GMT
#7786
I'm 1 shot

Damdred claimed two or some shit
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 17 2015 22:21 GMT
#7788
Also I don't really think damdred needed cc'img like he would t have been lynched any faster if I had
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 17 2015 22:22 GMT
#7789
On July 18 2015 07:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
You're 1shot JK and you held it until n4?


Yea I was hoping to hold it even later
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 17 2015 22:32 GMT
#7792
I actually want to lynch rsoul ASWELL. To start with she hasn't been posting legacys from what I can tell like her filter is 100 pages long so I could be wrong but yeah it is something she like religiously does as town but not as scum.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 18 2015 04:25 GMT
#7807
Rsoultin idk if Ruxxar hard defending HF is necessarily that scum indicative now. Like I can pose questions like why did he just keep town reading him even when it looked like we were definitely going to lynch him.

Did he not say he townread him but would still lynch cos martyr. I feel that is a retarded thing to say as scum because you can just flip your read and no one would blame you.

if you are town I could see Ruxxar being scum because him pushing you for the trefel stuff could be because it would continue the shitfight between you and HF but I don't think that's the case.

Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 18 2015 08:03 GMT
#7811
On July 18 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 18 2015 13:25 Breshke wrote:
Rsoultin idk if Ruxxar hard defending HF is necessarily that scum indicative now. Like I can pose questions like why did he just keep town reading him even when it looked like we were definitely going to lynch him.

Did he not say he townread him but would still lynch cos martyr. I feel that is a retarded thing to say as scum because you can just flip your read and no one would blame you.

if you are town I could see Ruxxar being scum because him pushing you for the trefel stuff could be because it would continue the shitfight between you and HF but I don't think that's the case.



no? like, that's what it seemed like he was saying, and i pressed him for it then because i was fairly certain that they were scum together, but he said that he was still pretty sure hf was town but wanted to lynch vivax and me ^^

like his reason for switching to hf was "to prevent scum switching off and forcing a no-lynch"

which was like...dumb as hell? like why would scum prefer a no-lynch to an hf mislynch, and ruxx was "sure" he was town? and then he decided to switch back to me for like...what reason exactly? hf was getting lynched. it was all very nonsensical and looks more like...again...he didn't know what to do with himself near EoD just like with the bm lynch on d1 where he made a big commotion about shenanigans and not wanting a no-lynch while staying on the smaller wagon instead of ensuring that the lynch would go through when he'd said he didn't care which of the two was actually lynched

like a lot of his posting looks like flailing around trying to figure out what to do. if you review his filter he has a shit-ton of preachy town should! townies should! rah rah you should! type of posting

and seriously, bresh, if you see a town!hf and a town!rsoul going at it as scum, you really think scum wasn't capitalizing on that? there is no earthly way he could have been that sure about hf's alignment that early. no way. there is no earthly way unless you're completely misreading the thread that you can say that i instigated anything with hf until i brought my case on him d1


sorru i was at work and my break finished i do care about this game no matter how many times people say i dont.

Yeah but the switch basically makes the reason you are pushing him null. He obviously showed he wasnt that sure about HF's allighnment so he was worried HF was scum and mafia would switch off him to force a no lynch. Yeah it doesnt make sense when you think about it deeper because then scum basically outs itself but i had the same thought as him sounless you want to say im scum for it aswell ruxxar isnt scum for that reason.

the preachy posts are shit i agree but why does that make him mafia?

I agree scum would capitalize on that but by the same token wouldnt they capatalize on a HF lynch and not be so iffy about it. Maybe ruxxar has a really good read on HF or maybe it is fuckin shit and he got lucky that time but him being right about HF's allighnment doesn't make him scum. Like i like this line of reasoning before but now HF has flipped it just doesnt feel right to me anymore.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 18 2015 08:08 GMT
#7812
Also im not ignoring your VA stuff i just cbf with him right now because his filter is shit. He seems to not understand the key concepts that town needs to work together and if he even thinks he wont get his way he doesn't even seem to try and help. He might be 12 or something though so i won't judge
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 18 2015 14:44 GMT
#7830
Rsoultin if Ruxxar flips town who is mafia
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 18 2015 15:29 GMT
#7838
rsoul did HF flipping town change any of your reads? This isn't a dig it is a legitimate question.

Tomorrow im going to try be around a lot so if people are around that would be great. Obi i would really like to hear your opinion on all the things
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 18 2015 15:51 GMT
#7842
why is EBH not scum ruxxar?

Also if you think obi is scum you either think i got fairly unlucky or im scum.so the team would exactly be me rsoul and obi
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 18 2015 16:25 GMT
#7852
On July 19 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 00:51 Breshke wrote:
why is EBH not scum ruxxar?

Also if you think obi is scum you either think i got fairly unlucky or im scum.so the team would exactly be me rsoul and obi


I haven't had the time to consider your claim yet.

Talk to me about it.
Why did you decide to jail Obi of all people and not one of the more highly contested people like me?

I don't see a benefit for town fake claiming here unless they are in contention for getting lynched the next day.
I could see town fake-claiming to save themselves if they had no other way of escape, and that they would also guard one of their strongest town-reads to protect them as well.
I don't get the impression that OBI is your strongest town-read so that theory doesn't make sense.
It seems like a very unnatural thought, and I don't think you'd think of making that play as town unless you were a real PR.

The option as you say is that you're mafia and that you're trying to clear your scum-mate.
However that would be an extremely high risk play since it brings a lot of attention to yourself when you weren't previously in contention for getting lynched, and as you said you could've saved it for later when it would've been even more effective.

For now I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt as I'm always weary of lynching PR claims.

I wouldn't be surprised actually if you were PR since scum has had 2 RBer's this game which is unprecedented and really strong for a scum team.

As for Obi, he could still possibly be scum just not a KP carrier (1/3 chance), so not going to give him a free pass for that just yet.


I Rb'd obi for the exact reason in your post. He wasn't one of the main people in contention. Ill let you know some of the things i was thinking.

First of all I wanted to save my power until there was two scum left because if i didnt cause a reduction in KP the eprson would be confirmed town. The reason i did not do this is because i did not want to claim in mylo. Im not sure if i should have saved like marv or JAT and kept them around another phase idk how useful that would be and the nature of me not being a high impact player coupled with my more inactive play this game i was fairly certain i would be alive later in the game hence i didn't use my ability early.

So last night if i was going to use my ability on the person i most thought was scum i would have used it on rsoultin. This probably wasn't as clear to the thread as i thought it was looking back but last night i thought it was so it ran through my mind that the possibility there was a rolecop they would make sure rsoultin didnt carry kp. I also think clarity would be one to not carry kp as along with rsoultin being active like why run the risk when you can just shove it on your less active teammates.

The same kind of applys for you ruxxar but last night i thought you were very likely town i still do but you townreading like only the people rsoul scumreads is so meh.

I also wanted to RB someone who if there was no reduction in kp i thought i could kinda work with so this left me with like HTS or obi (maybe vivax but i dont remember why i didnt consider him) and i didn't get to check the game that HF linked about HTS nor have i yet so i still thought she was rather town and a possible night kill at the time.

So yeah it was obi, i kinda regret not saving it but i feel like i would be getting pushed this phase and it isnt worth the risk idk. I actually planned to not use it but changed my mind like 6 hours before deadline.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 18 2015 16:27 GMT
#7853
Also why isnt there an option that I am mafia trying to take obi down with me/pocket him? That would seem most likely to me 1 mafia for a town at this stage would be not bad especially since i could have been a lynch without this claim which i admit because its the reason i used my ability earlier than i wanted
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 18 2015 16:55 GMT
#7860
On July 19 2015 01:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 01:25 Breshke wrote:
On July 19 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
On July 19 2015 00:51 Breshke wrote:
why is EBH not scum ruxxar?

Also if you think obi is scum you either think i got fairly unlucky or im scum.so the team would exactly be me rsoul and obi


I haven't had the time to consider your claim yet.

Talk to me about it.
Why did you decide to jail Obi of all people and not one of the more highly contested people like me?

I don't see a benefit for town fake claiming here unless they are in contention for getting lynched the next day.
I could see town fake-claiming to save themselves if they had no other way of escape, and that they would also guard one of their strongest town-reads to protect them as well.
I don't get the impression that OBI is your strongest town-read so that theory doesn't make sense.
It seems like a very unnatural thought, and I don't think you'd think of making that play as town unless you were a real PR.

The option as you say is that you're mafia and that you're trying to clear your scum-mate.
However that would be an extremely high risk play since it brings a lot of attention to yourself when you weren't previously in contention for getting lynched, and as you said you could've saved it for later when it would've been even more effective.

For now I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt as I'm always weary of lynching PR claims.

I wouldn't be surprised actually if you were PR since scum has had 2 RBer's this game which is unprecedented and really strong for a scum team.

As for Obi, he could still possibly be scum just not a KP carrier (1/3 chance), so not going to give him a free pass for that just yet.


I Rb'd obi for the exact reason in your post. He wasn't one of the main people in contention. Ill let you know some of the things i was thinking.

First of all I wanted to save my power until there was two scum left because if i didnt cause a reduction in KP the eprson would be confirmed town. The reason i did not do this is because i did not want to claim in mylo. Im not sure if i should have saved like marv or JAT and kept them around another phase idk how useful that would be and the nature of me not being a high impact player coupled with my more inactive play this game i was fairly certain i would be alive later in the game hence i didn't use my ability early.

So last night if i was going to use my ability on the person i most thought was scum i would have used it on rsoultin. This probably wasn't as clear to the thread as i thought it was looking back but last night i thought it was so it ran through my mind that the possibility there was a rolecop they would make sure rsoultin didnt carry kp. I also think clarity would be one to not carry kp as along with rsoultin being active like why run the risk when you can just shove it on your less active teammates.

The same kind of applys for you ruxxar but last night i thought you were very likely town i still do but you townreading like only the people rsoul scumreads is so meh.

I also wanted to RB someone who if there was no reduction in kp i thought i could kinda work with so this left me with like HTS or obi (maybe vivax but i dont remember why i didnt consider him) and i didn't get to check the game that HF linked about HTS nor have i yet so i still thought she was rather town and a possible night kill at the time.

So yeah it was obi, i kinda regret not saving it but i feel like i would be getting pushed this phase and it isnt worth the risk idk. I actually planned to not use it but changed my mind like 6 hours before deadline.


you still haven't said why you're reading me scum? like...are you seriously basing it on legacies and the ridiculous notion that hf and i can't fight as town?


No its not just based on that. The legacy thing could easily be outdated even though that is what i said last time but there was also a feeling i had that like in the later stages of last day phase you would come into the thread and just interact with HF while saing you were not really caught up and at first it was like oh cool she is trying to sort out the problem blah blah but then it was like okay enough is enough this is clearly going nowhere now do other things.

Obviously that paragraph is a load of shit and i want to justify it with quotes and stuff but that is for tomorrow hence why i havnt said why i have been scum reading you.

Also rsoul look at that votecount. That is a ballsy scumteam if you are right. Like we arnt even in mylo
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