This half of D2 yes. The first half no so.

Anyways, half an hour left.

##Unvote
##Vote GlowingBear

Back to consolidating on an early D2 lynch wagon.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 00:41 GMT

#1005

But for the record, I would 100% rather lynch BillMurray or Asmo. Probably BM over Asmo right now, 100%.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 00:45 GMT

#1009

Alright, you know what, fine.

##Unvote
##Vote Cixah

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 00:46 GMT

#1010

We're doing this NOW, everyone.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 00:47 GMT

#1015

I swear to fucking god.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 00:56 GMT

#1025

Yes we Absolutely ARE.

Cop vs Tracker. If he's wrong, we kill him next day. If Cixah is wrong, ???

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 01:34 GMT

#1051

1) Should've stuck to my first read and push.

2) lel Asmo/Cixah.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 01:36 GMT

#1052

The very thought that GB flipping scum implicates me is hilarious.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 01:41 GMT

#1054

On July 07 2015 10:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:

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I wouldn't say that at all. It's not uncommon for scum to name one teammate to cause confusion.

Yep. I'd do it all the time if I were about to get lynched as scum. It makes newb townies question. Like in the HS mafia game where I deliberately got myself bussed D1. I then named HF town because HF did most of the bussing, and called out the rest of my scum teammates out.

And the result:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia#3

Hue.

The only one it confirms is Cixah's claim since GB pushed him hard as a counter-lynch.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 02:20 GMT

#1058

On July 07 2015 11:02 Cixah wrote:

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Wouldn't that just confirm him mafia in this case then?

Maybe, maybe not. It's complete WIFOM. Maybe it's his teammate, maybe it isn't. Just ignore the read on BillMurray.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 02:26 GMT

#1059

AKA, BM may still be scum, he may not be.

What you should look at is voting patterns on GB. Wave and I were the first ones to push him and started the wagon. I swapped out later because I decided to go against my feelings and meeeeta read (this is also why the idea of me being scum with GB is stupid lol, since I almost certainly helped start the wagon against him today+ Show Spoiler +

plus if I were scum I would 100% be bussing him when the lynch was nearly secure for all the town credz instead of trying last minute shenanies that only look bad for me, but hey, this is super WIFOM territory

).

Won't be giving my read/analysis of this situation until EoN. Because no need to give scum ez reads.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 02:28 GMT

#1060

+ Show Spoiler [so much wifom like you couldn't…] +

There's also the SUPER wifom scenario that Cixah and GB are both scum and worked to make sure at least one of them would be considered town but...this is so lol

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 07 2015 17:48 GMT

#1084

1) Sonib, what. You realize you COMPLETELY wasted your vote.

2)

At this point, I find an LT/plotspot scumteam fairly likely.

This makes sense...how?

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 08 2015 01:05 GMT

#1103

Obvious Town
Me

Probably Town
Sonib
Cixah

Hrm....Maybe
Dankel
plotspot
VE

People Whom I am totally fine Lynching start of D3
coma
asmo
BM (?)

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 08 2015 01:11 GMT

#1105

Hm.

Figured.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

July 08 2015 01:20 GMT

#1106

I'm not going to touch Asmo's attempt to read GB's flip because I think it's terrible, but hey.

On July 08 2015 10:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Why I think LT looks scummy

GB flipped red, see previous big post on LT lol. And to address your earlier post:

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Didn't Trying to push obvious town=idc.

It's really not that absurd. You believed Cixah's claim based on the fact that it was "so sketchy it makes sense" (paraphrasing). But as soon as GB came in and did a last minute claim, you wanted to pull some major shenannies.

Risk analysis. If Cixah flips blue, we lynch GB, if GlowingBear flips blue, we don't necessarily lynch Cixah. In hindsight, this is wrong, but nonetheless my thought process.

Apparently he did this in one of his most recent games as well,

I mentioned how content he was with plotspot's original claim and how it hasn't sat right with me.

The main thing giving me pause is that I find it hard to believe LT would be that dumb. He's either stupid town or really stupid scum.

In order to assume I'm scum, you're deliberately assuming I would
Immediately bus GB D2, then waver and jump off after there's a sizable wagon, then jump on again, then jump off again. If I were scum, why should I not just sit on GB and reap all the town cred? Why attempt to shenanigan at all. Or if I were, why push him so much at the start lol.

I'll explain my D2 actions more thoroughly later after DnD, but if I were scum, my D2 actions make no sense lol.

plotspot, on the other hand, has done fuck all except for random speculation all game. At least I have an idea of what LT's reads are... plotspot I have no fucking clue what he thinks about other people in the game.

As I've typed this out, I've decided that if I had to choose between the two, I'd go with plotspot. He's more likely scum solely based off of pure feigned activity.

It's expected D1 because he gave us a 3p claim. I'll read his meta later but I still don't have a read on him. Still, probability-wise it's a 25% chance he's scum at the very start of the game.

Also, I figured VE was either scum or blue.