Because the only thing people in this game people know how to do is wifom and this makes the most sense in my head. You are more than welcome to try and explain things rationally though.

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

July 09 2015 22:52 GMT

#1245

If nobody else wants to I can talk about dandel with you!

yamato77

11589 Posts

July 09 2015 22:55 GMT

#1246

D3 Votecount

Plotspot (6): Dandel, Soniv, Lord Tolkein, Asmo, Coma, Bill Murray
ComaDose (1): Cixah
Soniv (1): Plotspot

Currently Plotspot is set to be lynch with 6 votes. Deadline in ~2 hours.

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

July 09 2015 23:04 GMT

#1247

On July 10 2015 06:54 Cixah wrote:
Holyflare would be proud friends.

However we have scum to lynch and I don't think its plot. Soniv, talk to me about dandel please.

He's someone I've thought a little about in the lull of the afternoon.

Rereading through his filter, I get mostly townie vibes. However, there are two things that concern me:

-His post quality hasn't really increased. Earlier in the game I mentioned that D1 dandel is almost always useless, and quality increases from there. That hasn't really happened to too large of an extent. Less than I would expect, anyway.

-He's still alive. Town dandel doesn't usually live long (often times partially caused by the above point), so being alive D3 is somewhat concerning. However, considering those who have fallen to scum night kills - Mordek(Wave), VE - I guess that makes it slightly more reasonable? If he continues to live through nights, I will be more concerned.

Also, I've got a pretty town read on Coma, so I won't be joining you on that train.

Bill Murray

United States9292 Posts

July 09 2015 23:18 GMT

#1248

On July 10 2015 07:15 Cixah wrote:
Because the only thing people in this game people know how to do is wifom and this makes the most sense in my head. You are more than welcome to try and explain things rationally though.

Bill Murray

United States9292 Posts

July 09 2015 23:23 GMT

#1249

jcarlson has surprised me this game

Cixah

United States11285 Posts

July 09 2015 23:38 GMT

#1250

I agree with much of your points soniv which is why I think the coma lynch is more town information.

There are two possible worlds right now. Plots plus coma, in which voting the supposed role neutral plot gives is no info other than on red.

Or the world where neither of those two are red and the whole team is now voting for plot. Which is likely given the number of votes. The most likely red team in that case for me would be LT and Dandel.

However I'm not quite ready to push in the two of them as they are very stanch allies this game and have defended each other whenever any accusation I have made has been brought on them. I feel like the coma flip tells us more but I'm also fine with plots dying this game out of policy, I just hope I'm not the night kill.

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

July 09 2015 23:48 GMT

#1251

On July 10 2015 08:23 Bill Murray wrote:
jcarlson has surprised me this game

plotspot

800 Posts

July 10 2015 00:04 GMT

#1252

40 min left.^^

Lord Tolkien

United States12084 Posts

July 10 2015 00:17 GMT

#1253

till we figure out youre scum?

kk

plotspot

800 Posts

July 10 2015 00:45 GMT

#1254

Ok I am town, VT even.I think soniv is mafia (with LT).

- early preparation to be suspicious of my claim, time and time again bringing it up to then finally be consistent with it and use it as one of the reasons to scumread me by assuring not to believe in my claim

- townread early by GB,

- scumreads me for doing nothing and riding with the chaos in the beginning, when I actually gave my reads

- later switches to the scenario that I bussed GB as early as possible to gain town credit, and to make it believable claiming that GB was doomed as soon as Cixah claimed

- N2, faking sort of impatience towards my behavior as preparation for D3

- D3, fake waffling between me and LT, sees Dandel policy-voting me, jumps on the boat claiming to have “thought it out”, but conveniently didn’t examine why a scum!LT could still do this after LT submitted his reasons. Funny thing is I offered a similar perspective why I can’t be scum bussing GB, but soniv argues that I could do it and then I used the defense I posted. Nice double standard. He wasn’t really interested in scumreading LT at all. Just fakes it in the beginning to later point out why LT is actually town for doing it.

- soniv and LT were there trying to save GB, don’t be fooled. It’s impossible GB would pull something like that with no possible support. Reread the interaction from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24524548
Soniv and LT totally fake and reeking of scum. LT pretending to be in agony:”aww dammit, fine, votes Cixah, WE’RE DOING THIS NOW, arggghh.. argg”
Soniv suddenly saying, no we don’t shenanny, after I firmly answered about her question regarding GB’s last game, that he is unlikely to be cop here.

- LT the whole friggin game is about asking questions, thinking loud, pondering, faking that he consider things, blah blah. I already saw it from a mile that his vote would be on me, while he still considers BM and pretends to “weigh” things up.

- Both LT and soniv declare BM’s no-lynch idea as stupid and LT even scumread BM. He fakes blowing up and calls BM’s idea “retarded shit”. I later even explained to Coma why it’s not “retarded shit” by detailing things out. I never see them mentioning it again or counter-discuss it with me.

- LT states in one of his posts, he is fine with lynching asmo, plotspot, coma and BM, basically spewing 4 townies.

- Soniv states that BM and possibly Asmo are good contenders as my scumpartner.

- Soniv setting up to scum-read Dandel by starting to “raise concerns”, which is just another ploy to be consistent later, don’t be surprised if they mention him killing HF as a reason later

- LT replies with “well if that’s the case, ggwp” to my conceding

- LT postering for when I find out I am town

- after I die don’t let them bla bla you into oblivion. Scum pair right there. Read their filter for more examples. If you see they live through the night, they will certainly start to come at BM the next day, possibly Coma or Asmo, after having shot Dandel or Cixah.

plotspot

800 Posts

July 10 2015 00:50 GMT

#1255

lol they just want to get me lynched somehow, mafia fucking believed that I didn't read my pm, soniv so scum now. If you were town you act like the rest and don't question too much into it.

plotspot

800 Posts

July 10 2015 00:56 GMT

#1256

hihi guard yourself when they start telling you "things" ^^ 100% it's coming

plotspot

800 Posts

July 10 2015 00:59 GMT

#1257

BM is town, he doesn't care. Coma is town, like I don't know how to explain. Asmo is sort of timid town, but town. Dandel town too because soniv already preparing to cast suspicion lawl. Cixah super town.

plotspot

800 Posts

July 10 2015 01:00 GMT

#1258

Town band together, don't let them divide you. GG. You can do it.

yamato77

11589 Posts

July 10 2015 01:02 GMT

#1259