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Since I'm going through everyone's filter hunting now that I have roughly 24 hours to live I decided to start from some of my original reads and see what we could find. That ment VE First.
On July 06 2015 22:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I wonder why you keep asking people about LT when you sounded nowhere near as certain as you did/do about GB. I think your point about LT just accepting plot's claim is strong, but it seems pretty reliant on GB flipping mafia, or at least that's the way it looks to me.
BM is BM is BM. I have a hard time reading him ever, though I will say that I would kinda expect the game to be a little more chaotic if BM is mafia. He's a disruptive scum player, or at least that's my take on BM's play. This game he's been downright tame. Lurky, yeah, but when he's here he doesn't appear to be trying to fuck shit up. I'd probably not lynch over others yet.
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On July 06 2015 22:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah it didn't look like you were actually TRYING to switch, that's just the impression I get when I read you asking Wave and I repeatedly about LT.
What do you think about Cixah?
both occur before my reveal post. Because of this I'm very inclined to think you are not town. The main reason I pick the first post is because at this point I'm more likely to believe BM as being town based on prior posting from the now deceased GB. Add on top that everything he has posted thus far has been on to or off of a bandwagon on either Wave, BM or myself. It's very unlikely that two scum partners would be so openly together on the same 3 targets though so you have a slighter town lean for that but overall I really dislike your posts and their lack of substance and think you as mafia.
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Now for LT:
1) ok 2) errrr....alright 3) mostly because I've been mostly deliberately prodding him to get a better read on him, but sure 4) he's lurking until D2, this should be null
This post in answering does two thing to me. Throws you VERY hard into the town camp for me at first glance, however if the final Mafia circle of VE, GB, you is to be expected its also shows that you had way too much information at the time of this post. At least based on my current reads on N2. Still reading we get this odd post.
Show nested quote + I'm still loling over the fact you
1) doubt obvious town 2) think I would be scumteam with GB given our interactions
If we were scumteam we would have no interactions whatsoever.
That's shit scumplay. Are you shit LT? Pls. I would be so distant from him. Unless I bussed him. Then I would be pushing him so so hard. brazilians scare me Also, I hate scum. Worst role in game. Boring as fuck.Anyways. GB meta, he is: 1) overly concerned with defending himself at the start of day as opposed to scumhunting, or at the least providing alternate lynch candidates which are scummier 2) omgusing so hard 3) voting someone for mayor D1 and killing them at night is something he would totally do as scum to get towncred
The bolded is what has me concerned. Given the context of what it is referred to i'm inclined to believe this is a slip of some kind and it kind of fits the world where you aren't town. This next post here
On July 06 2015 03:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 03:57 Cixah wrote: Hmm I have reading to do, I'm hesitant to just jump on the GB train just yet. Even if what you guys say makes sense, it is a bit too easy. Gimme a few minutes and I'll make my post. Something doesn't sit right here. find us his scumbuddies then, and we can lynch them before him then.
Also gives me some worry simply because at the time of this you and most everyone else in the thread were tunneling pretty hard on GB as a lynch. Only later towards the end of the day we have the bus ride on the the GB cop claim that you try to start.
Proof:
On July 06 2015 11:54 Lord Tolkien wrote: Change of plans.
#Vote: Cixah
This post takes place several hours before the cop claim itself. I'm very very concerned that LT might not be town nor can he be trusted at this time. He has a lot to answer for before town can actually do much of anything tomorrow.
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Well thanks for at least pretending to reevaluate me Cixah.
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Asmo next:
His filter has almost nothing in it at all which going into n2 is only 2 pages long. Towards the end it does have this,
On July 07 2015 09:03 AsmodeusXI wrote: sry, this is what I get for being a rushing noob
if GB is scum - LT, Coma also scum if GM is town - Wave, Cixah, someone else idk
yeah, soniv i clearly just am abridging shit in my head derp
The Post on how his scumteam will read pending on the GB flips is interesting. With the last one obviously being the town circle, I am also inclined to believe that LT and Coma are actually scum aligned in this since, and with it being the holiday weekend i believe that his general lack of posting is in that regard.
On July 06 2015 13:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 13:02 GlowingBear wrote:On July 06 2015 12:11 AsmodeusXI wrote: I'm having a tough time catching up, but I want to throw out something that's bothering me.
I still don't know what BillMurray's game is. So far, it's silently lurking from the shadows, throwing my name around randomly, and then jumping on the GB bandwagon. That's weird as shit and, unless I'm much mistaken (and oh shit have I been mistaken before), doesn't read as town.
I want to know what's up. Let's see if I can get any pressure on this since this bus appears to be slowing down.
##Unvote ##Vote BillMurray Didn't you just jumped on my wagon a couple of posts before? Why is he mafia for that and you're not? Honestly, I changed my mind. At least on what I'm looking for. I jumped on your bandwagon because I liked what Wave and LT were saying, but then I remembered how I prefer to play. I don't like absentee players. And I don't like the positions that I've been put in due to BM. And frankly, BM's filter is total shite. There's barely anything there except for vague assertions in my direction and bandwagoning. I don't like it at all. I want to hear more and I want to try and light a fire to get SOMETHING from him that I can understand. Maybe then he can prove he's somehow playing in the town's best interest. Or not and we lynch dirty scum.
This post prior to it i also missed so perhaps you are more town than i realized. I do hope you are able to post a bit more right now, if you had and your agreements stayed the same you'd be my number 1 town.
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My posts are full of substance. Sweet delicious substance that your palate isn't equipped to handle. You just wait Cixah, you'll see. Everyone's gonna laugh at you when they see you call me mafia. I won't though. I get it. I called you mafia and you didn't like it and now you want to hang me for it. It's natural.
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oh well that went better than i expected mb ill just keep sheeping people from now on i forgot how great sheeping is
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yo Dandel is awake, usually the same time as me <3
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i usually awake from the sun melting my face nowadays
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man, no blinds? I know for sure I'd be the same if I didn't pull over my jalousie
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I'm changing location to a relatives today and for the next month i'll be in a room on the ground floor so im not getting cooked by the heat from below, with blinds and the windows are on the northwestern side anyway
and they have a pool
can. not. wait.
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On July 07 2015 19:57 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm changing location to a relatives today and for the next month i'll be in a room on the ground floor so im not getting cooked by the heat from below, with blinds and the windows are on the northwestern side anyway
and they have a pool
can. not. wait. Look at how sinister this guy is. You know what else is hot as hell? HELL! You some kind of demon or something Dandel? Got something to hide BREH?!?!?! Where you runnin off to huh? Why you running away? We just killed mafia, suddenly you feel the urge to escape?!?
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rereading the whole thread its not that crazy to guess mordek actually sheltered me considering he name dropped me out of the blue right before the canadian post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487695-ot-vs-the-mods-mafia?page=33#657 but I dont know why he would pick me over wave
bleh what a bad town play by me to believe GB and trust LTs judgement on the call. It was probably influenced by tonnes of people suspecting cixah already. like forcing him to claim kind of suspicion. hell if wave won mayor day 1 he would already be lynched first.
soniv why did you leave your vote on plotspot even though it wouldnt matter and you were there at the end? do you still think he is a mod?
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On July 07 2015 21:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 19:57 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm changing location to a relatives today and for the next month i'll be in a room on the ground floor so im not getting cooked by the heat from below, with blinds and the windows are on the northwestern side anyway
and they have a pool
can. not. wait. Look at how sinister this guy is. You know what else is hot as hell? HELL! You some kind of demon or something Dandel? Got something to hide BREH?!?!?! Where you runnin off to huh? Why you running away? We just killed mafia, suddenly you feel the urge to escape?!? All I'm trying to hide is the full extent of my swag so yall don't feel too inadequate and suicide IRL
shit's happened before
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lol, i think HF actually got modkilled.^^
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wat
no, it was most certainly me
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On July 07 2015 22:54 ComaDose wrote: soniv why did you leave your vote on plotspot even though it wouldnt matter and you were there at the end? do you still think he is a mod?
I'll walk you through my thought process for end of D2
GB's defense, while angry and somewhat aggressive, seemed to exhibit townie motivation as it continued. I started to become unsure, and realized that my D2 desire for a GB lynch was largely fueled by taking someone I was suspicious of D1, wanting to peg LT behind him, and by Wave's vitriol. So I posed the question to Wave:
On July 07 2015 07:00 jcarlsoniv wrote: One thing I will ask you, Wave - do your actions this day not feel reminiscent of you tunneling me last OT mafia? But this time around it feels like you're almost entirely basing your tunnel on meta (although it's possible that it's because I'm not on the receiving end of it this time, so it looks different). I want to be able to trust your judgement, but I need you to answer this.
By one hour before lynch time, I still hadn't received an answer, so I had to make a call. In my gut, I was not trusting Wave's tunnel, and I believed Cixah's claim. I mentioned (in the same post that I asked the question of Wave) that the other person I'd be willing to lynch was plotspot, so that's where my vote went.
As for why I didn't move it - I don't like end of day shennanies. LT tried to pull one hard to bandwagon off GB onto Cixah, and that is something I did not support.
At this point, I find an LT/plotspot scumteam fairly likely.
On July 08 2015 00:16 Dandel Ion wrote: wat
no, it was most certainly me
Interesting thought though. I haven't thought a whole lot about you tbh, but I would usually expect a townie Dandel to be more useful post D1.
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oh he just called me scum should say so in the first place
tbh i would usually expect a town [literally anybody] to be more useful than they are this game, you can say that about everyone
i could spam more, sure, but i dont see why i should put in that much more effort than anybody else
tldr casual games be casual
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actually i redact the literally from the anybody, i never expect a town soniv to do anything useful at all
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actually i personally didn't really expect anything out of anybody, i further redact my statement to read "you would usually expect a town [literally anybody] to be more useful than they are this game"
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I just wonder why HF never got the "TLLOLOTGD Poster" flavor that yamato posted for Wave when he died. Ok it could be because Onegu posted about HF's death, but still, if any vanilla "TLLOLOTGD Poster" got the same flavour with a picture of Jinx, then it could be HF was modkilled because he posted his Jinx picture in the thread. It was just coincidence then that Dandel also picked HF. "HF the Vanilla Townie got kicked out of the thread", is that all? Notice the word "kicked". Also, no flavor unlike every other person who died? Ok; maybe he was not modkilled, but I think there is a reason why the host don't post HF's flavor, probably because the full extent would include the picture he posted as his first post?
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