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Wave, earlier in the day you said Dandel likes to troll as scum
On July 03 2015 09:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Eh, at this point I wouldn't vote dandel. He likes to troll as scum and I don't see a reason to take a chance on him.
He has made at least one good post, and has trolled a lot this game. Are you really invested in a yolo lynch then? I know you like flashy plays, though. Just ask the wizard you tried to poison.
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On July 04 2015 09:38 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 09:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:Wave, earlier in the day you said Dandel likes to troll as scum On July 03 2015 09:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Eh, at this point I wouldn't vote dandel. He likes to troll as scum and I don't see a reason to take a chance on him. He has made at least one good post, and has trolled a lot this game. Are you really invested in a yolo lynch then? I know you like flashy plays, though. Just ask the wizard you tried to poison. He likes to troll as scum but he's not more actual work. I don't THINK he's scum at this point. You'll not I'm not voting for him though, but I'm not going attempt to push anyone else through. I'm not invested in a yolo lynch as I'd rather it be 6ah but it doesn't seem as though I have a choice.
Oh, my mistake, I thought you had.
I think I would rather risk a noob bait (who really hasn't done a whole lot to make me think he's any more town) than risk a dandel yolo. I'm with you, I'm not really sure how to read him at this point, but I don't like yolo plays.
##unvote ##vote: WaveofShadow
Wave, you have my vote for a zombie lynch.
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LT, you said you were interested in 6ah or Asmo. You don't know what you'll get with dandel. He's a wildcard
+ Show Spoiler +
We'll at least know what to expect with Mayor John Shadow.
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wait, are you going to lynch HF?
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I suppose as far as yolo plays go, that could have been a lot worse.
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Would it be reasonable to assume that he was killed because he save someone? If so, would that person be notified?
I don't really see anything in his filter that might suggest who he'd protect (if that's what happened)
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On July 05 2015 22:42 WaveofShadow wrote: So...who would actually be afraid of me considering most people think I'm shit after last game?
Probably people who weren't in the last game
I'd go GB Maybe even over 6ah today
Not a bad thought. And this helped me remember why I disliked GB D1. He pegged us both as town, me actually a bit moreso than you, I think. And he voted you for mayor on the position that you wanted 6ah lynched.
On July 04 2015 01:33 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote: I am inherently untrustworthy of you because of this you know, GB.
Got them chills that some scum are content to call me shit for last game and others will be planning on kissing my ass just to separate themselves. I don't care. I think you're town and you've got a scumread on Cixah too
I did as well at the time (and I got more uneasy later on). I remember asking GB why he'd vote you over me based on the same criteria, but I don't recall getting an answer.
His start of D1 looked scummy to me, he did some townie contribution, LT fingered him town, GB largely disappeared again. (taking a page from LT's book) I'm beginning to think a GB, LT scum team could be likely.
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On July 06 2015 00:53 WaveofShadow wrote: I have reason to doubt LT and 6ah are scum now actually. They could still be but right now GB is number 1
And I could totally see why a town GB would vote me over you BTW, to me its more that he didn't take an obvious explanation for it.
Why do you think LT is scum
It's a bit hard to say that LT is scum right out. I'll say he's definitely floating away from confirmed town.
He has generally been playing with a town attitude, I think. His activity is pretty high, which argues in favor of his towniness. But he's put himself into this big loud town position from the start, making sure everyone knows it right away. Shouting the loudest about being confirmed townie (say something long enough and loud enough, eventually people start to believe it).
On July 03 2015 00:50 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 00:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 03 2015 00:20 Lord Tolkien wrote: As no one trusts the obvious townie, I could settle for you then. Are you suggesting that you're obvious townie? Uh. Obviously? I am the towniest town that has ever townied this town. And anyone who doesn't townread me is the scummiest scum that has ever scummed this mafia game.
then shortly after...
On July 03 2015 02:34 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +I would like to here more from him in regards to who the BEST lynch today might be, rather than who mayor should be. You, because you're questioning obvious town. In all seriousness, we're just over half a day into the game. If you have strong reads, I'm calling bullshit, because there's nothing to base any lynch accusation on right now besides lulz and hunches.
So he's super town, and anyone who doesn't see that is scum, but anyone with hard reads at this point is bullshitting.
Very content to just accept plotspot's claim of "you'll just have to believe me, I can say my role text".
On July 03 2015 00:19 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Also, Amnesiac claim what. That role PM.
On July 02 2015 23:26 plotspot wrote: It's like the only role you're allowed to recite with impunity. Can't have it all in the specific rules book. Would be too cluttering. Hrmmmm. Ok then.
Actually, I wonder. This might make you the best candidate for mayor D1.
Dismissing immediately any reason to question the claim
On July 03 2015 00:50 Lord Tolkien wrote:
As for the claim, I'm willing to believe it. There's very little reason for scum to claim an unaligned role this early and draw intense scrutiny to themselves in such a manner. It doesn't even win them town points, because apparently he can still be scum. It might be a ploy to win credit to become mayor to prevent a scum-lynch D1, but lets be real.
1) That's shockingly shortsighted because by pure random chance, it's unlikely that town lynches scum because we're headless chickens right now (and are not electing obvious town to mayorship *cough*), and 2) Better for scum not to draw such intense scrutiny to themselves, and 3) he hasn't even mentioned it (unless you think I'm somehow scum partners with him since I brought it up, but that is also a stupid line of thought).
Like, right now I have no reason not to believe it, because it basically just mean's he's null for 1-2 days (I think?). Which again, since I believe it, makes him a very possible candidate for mayor.
But then kind of flipping it back on Wave
On July 03 2015 02:34 Lord Tolkien wrote: eads, I'm calling bullshit, because there's nothing to base any lynch accusation on right now besides lulz and hunches.
On July 03 2015 01:54 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 01:34 Cixah wrote: I still like asmo for mayor but Plot could be maybe a legit choice.
My reads on soniv still stand, he's pretty much the only person I can see as hard town atm, Wave is trying to make more sense of it though I do wish he would reconsider on me as I only have town's best interest. I do not like VE's or Mordek's posting but that's just D1 stuff from here. LT's posts have some reason to them, but still feel very alternate agenda to me. I would like to here more from him in regards to who the BEST lynch today might be, rather than who mayor should be.
Time for work, I'll be reading but probs not posting too much till I get home or after 6pm my time. I like this. Doesn't mean you're not scum, but still. Too much focus on roleclaiming and mayor shit. Guess what? Mayor elections don't win us the game ladies. So you're telling me,
1) we shouldn't analyze the guy who just claimed "I might be green or red, but idk right now"
If LT has already decided that plot's claim is fine, then there should be no more need for discussion on it in his mind.
Evolution of the GB read:
On July 03 2015 02:48 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 03 2015 02:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 02:38 Lord Tolkien wrote: Anyways, I've decided. I'm putting Wave in OT Mafia, Episode I, category for now until he sobers up.
Also Soniv, I would probably peg you town, but you're questioning my obvious townie status. How dare you question my inane, jocular statement.
As for GB, I've played a few mafia games with him, and I'm fairly certain I know how to read him. Do you have any leaning for GB then? I don't think I've played with him before, but his filter is pretty devoid of anything. If it weren't for that first post, he'd probably be null on my radar like the other lurky people, but that first one just makes me think "ugh, fuck you". @VE - I need more to go on than that. As you say, there's little to go on right now.
However,
On July 02 2015 11:07 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, I'm not voting Asmodeus
On July 02 2015 13:42 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2015 11:22 Cixah wrote: Can't give power to people who don't want it, won't give power to people who do want it. This is worse than anything else we could have discussed in our d1.
All euros read scum to me right now. Soniv is town, wave might be town. Let's party friends we've got so much more time to play games today!
Let use hear from so euros tho. Dandel. What is your favorite type of shower and is it the one you use to wipe all the scum off your face? Can you explain those townreads?
The actual serious posts he's done so far indicate, to me at least, he's trying to gauge some reactions.
It's been awhile though, so I'll look back at those mafia games I played with him.
Also, don't trust his reads on me. Because I distinctly remember when he tried to defend me in that HS mafia game, when I was fucking around so hard and trying to get bussed D1.
On July 04 2015 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote: GB is leaning town.
Fk no.
On July 04 2015 06:25 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'm talking about GB that sentence sonib.
1) GB posted the most townie things after I gave him a VERY VERY SLIGHT town lean read (on plotspot bandwagon, etc). Also arguing about wave.
2) I'm relying on my meta of GB. I've only played 1 game with you, and you were a breadcrumbing blue role. pfft. can't tell nuthin from that.
GB did post some townie things, I agree. But it wasn't a lot, and he was content to disappear once he had been generally accepted. It wasn't enough to convince me, but apparently it was enough to convince LT.
Towards the end of the day, LT seemed about as wishy washy on the lynch as I was - he was ok with dandelyolos onto HF or myself, or asmo or 6ah lynches as the town had been looking at them.
On July 04 2015 06:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If we're going yolo, I'm not opposed to Sonib. I'd rather see other people go down, but eh.
[B]On July 04 2015 09:18 Lord Tolkien wrote: Probably 6ah or asmo.
Maybe holyflare because he's still memeing after his other mafia game ended.
If GB flips red, I know who I would look to next. Otherwise, if GB doesn't flip red, then LT is more likely to just be a sad, confused townie.
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there are some random boldings in there, most of the quoted stuff shouldn't be bold
fk you LT for your quote formatting
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On July 06 2015 02:13 Bill Murray wrote: tolkien it's not 100% he died saving someone more like 15%
while I agree it's not necessarily 100%, it seems odd that they'd shoot at mordek, no?
unless it's just lurker crapshoot I guess
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On July 06 2015 02:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:13 Bill Murray wrote: tolkien it's not 100% he died saving someone more like 15% while I agree it's not necessarily 100%, it seems odd that they'd shoot at mordek, no? unless it's just lurker crapshoot I guess
unless I was right earlier in that much of the scum team is in the lurkers
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On July 06 2015 02:47 ComaDose wrote: so a martyr jumps in front of someone to die instead of them? rip mordek the hero we needed.
That seems to be the case, yes. But rather than stating what's already been stated, what are you thoughts on what we can learn from it?
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On July 06 2015 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah you're defs scum. I remember this flailing. ##vote: GlowingBear
YES JOIN ME
I assume this means it's a meta read? What are your thoughts on LT if/when the bear flips red
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On July 06 2015 03:31 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'm going to assume you didn't catch up yet GlowingBear but pls. I already listed all the reasons why mordek probably saved wave.
I'm pretty much sold on this as well, unless you give me something better to go on.
For now.
#vote: GlowingBear
I...hmm. Damnit LT.
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On July 06 2015 03:35 Lord Tolkien wrote: if omgus is the best you have GB, my meta read is pretty clear here.
wasn't your meta read on him town? ~_~
also, just realized I didn't vote in my big post before - I guess you get credit/responsibility for this one wave
##vote GlowingBear
But see?? We can be on the same page!
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ebwop: wasn't your meta read on him before* town?
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On July 06 2015 03:41 GlowingBear wrote: Oops I meant to answer LT, not Soniv
I didn't have a meta read on him, I thought he was town, but I don't think town wave would be this stupid to rely on DOUBLE wifom to forge a scumread on me. It's horrid.
So he's using a meta read to peg you, and you say it's a double wifom? I'm not sure I'm following.
On July 06 2015 03:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 03:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 06 2015 03:31 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'm going to assume you didn't catch up yet GlowingBear but pls. I already listed all the reasons why mordek probably saved wave.
I'm pretty much sold on this as well, unless you give me something better to go on.
For now.
#vote: GlowingBear I...hmm. Damnit LT. I'm still loling over the fact you 1) doubt obvious town 2) think I would be scumteam with GB given our interactions
Right, because it's so hard for a scum team to fabricate interactions. You've soft defended him all game until now.
Excuse me for being skeptical of your actions. No one's confirmed town until they're cold and dead, except for whomever mordek (probably) protected (looking like wave at this point, but I won't throw out the possibility that it was someone else if there wasn't a PM).
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Wave, what did you think of my LT post? I was hoping to get at least a little feedback =(
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On July 06 2015 11:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Somebody find me a link to OT mafia I I have to look into Soniv's play. He just feels so distant.
His points on Tolk ring true though, and I can't determine how I feel on his sudden dropping of the arrogance towards me now that he realizes I'm likely on the right track.
Was I arrogant with you this game? I don't actually recall, but I don't think I was. I was intentionally trying to not rib you for last game, that's for out of/pre game.
On July 06 2015 11:05 AsmodeusXI wrote: This bandwagon seems fairly unstoppable, so I'm in too.
Frankly, Wave's calls were my favorite beforehand and they'll continue to be until I see something weird.
##vote: GlowingBear
I mean, what are your thoughts. Outside of specifically GB lynching, do you have any thoughts about other things in the thread?
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