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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 02 2015 18:21 GMT
#261
Goddamnit, I should've just said yes to 1). I could've squeezed more out of you.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 02 2015 19:03 GMT
#284
On July 03 2015 03:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right now I vote the mayor lynch Holyflare. He's too quiet and honestly? I've played with scum!HF as both town and scum and he's a goddamn pain to figure out (if he's scum).

you know sober i wqould lynch you fgor this but right now im very much in the favor of lynching ppl who are too much wordk

Yep. Alright. He's town.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 02 2015 19:17 GMT
#294
On July 03 2015 04:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right now I vote the mayor lynch Holyflare. He's too quiet and honestly? I've played with scum!HF as both town and scum and he's a goddamn pain to figure out (if he's scum).


Wow this post is bad

I was having a slight townread on you until this

BM is also a pain to figure out, and doesn't have the same skill Holyflare has as town (sorry BM). Why wanting to lynch him just out of that?

Dandel beat you to the punch so no town cred for you.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 02 2015 21:01 GMT
#326
1) VE is kind of a shitter, but he's usually a good town shitter

Hrm.

2) holyflare, at some point you need to contribute
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 02 2015 21:25 GMT
#341
On July 03 2015 06:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
VE thus game is supposed to be a shitfest.
Not sure what you were expecting really

Yep.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 01:04 GMT
#362
which reminds me, in case i drop dead of cancer tonight, and as apparently no one will vote for the obvious townie to be mayor

#vote: polspot
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 14:54 GMT
#388
On July 03 2015 21:52 plotspot wrote:
1. Wave = dangerous
2. Tolkien = rather town
3. Holyflare = mom I don't know what he's doing
4. Sonib = rather town
5. Coma = ???
6. Mordek = ???
7. GlowingBear = rather town
8. ASMODEUSXI = rather town
9. VisceraEyes = rather scum
10. Bill = mom I don't know what he's doing
11. Dandel = mom I don't know what he's doing
12. Cixah = not sure if serious

Hm. Yeah, that's pretty much how I would describe it. I am abit disconcerted that your reads mirror mine but eh.

@ Coma: how am I, Wave, and Sonib doing town work exactly?


@ VE: you are playing a noticeably worse town than I've seen before. Though this isn't a regular game. So.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 14:55 GMT
#389
On the other hand, I do find 6ah and Wave as scumbuddies interesting so hrm..
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 16:30 GMT
#409
On July 04 2015 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Wave of Shadow

You DO realise that voting the guy that doesn't even know his alignment will make the flip way less informational, right? Because he doesn't even have motivation behind his votes

But I am also certain that at this stage, he'll go with a town-sided vote because odds, and we can lynch him if he doesn't. We can determine things just fine, IF PEOPLE POST MORE OFTEN. Who would you lynch today if you were mayor, incidentally?

Also, if you want to vote obvious town vote me, not wave lel.


@ Wave: You're dangerous because even if you are town (I accept this for now), you may as well lead town off a cliff like last OT mafia.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 16:31 GMT
#411
aka, while I accept that GB has valid reasons for not voting for pol, I have no clue why he wants to make Wave mayor.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 16:31 GMT
#412
On July 04 2015 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
[image loading]

Given you've done nothing but post dank memes, I'm not inclined to vote either you or Dandel.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 16:36 GMT
#416
On July 04 2015 01:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 01:31 Lord Tolkien wrote:
aka, while I accept that GB has valid reasons for not voting for pol, I have no clue why he wants to make Wave mayor.


I explained why I think Wave is most likely town

Just because you think he's town doesn't mean he's mayor material.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 16:58 GMT
#426
On July 04 2015 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
@LT
You can probably ask anyone, but me playing poorly is not mafia indicative.

Fair enough. It's still disconcerting.

On July 04 2015 01:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 01:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:31 Lord Tolkien wrote:
aka, while I accept that GB has valid reasons for not voting for pol, I have no clue why he wants to make Wave mayor.


I explained why I think Wave is most likely town

Just because you think he's town doesn't mean he's mayor material.


Why not?

Does he need a Political Science degree?

There are two things in mafia I've learned not to trust. Medic claims and juicy dads.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468739-tllolotgdtm


On July 04 2015 01:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 01:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:31 Lord Tolkien wrote:
aka, while I accept that GB has valid reasons for not voting for pol, I have no clue why he wants to make Wave mayor.


I explained why I think Wave is most likely town

Just because you think he's town doesn't mean he's mayor material.

So hows about you get off your high fucking horse and choose a lynch and show us how you singlehandedly plan on winning the game for town, k?

Either 6ah or Asmo, for obvious reasons. I'm not picky. Maybe coma, but the flip is less informative. I'll have to check his filter again. Too many null reads right now because everyone's memeing so hard and I'm generally a terrible D1er.

Now then, who would you lynch.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 17:00 GMT
#427
On July 04 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 01:49 ComaDose wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Wave of Shadow

You DO realise that voting the guy that doesn't even know his alignment will make the flip way less informational, right? Because he doesn't even have motivation behind his votes

I think this is a good point. If the one who is lynched flips mod, we can be reasonably sure that the mayor was not mod. If they flip town well... people make mistakes but based off of how many people agree with the decision it could still be telling.
if we choose someone who doesnt know their alignment then they could pick mod but then still end up being mod themselves.

Yeah except Tolk has openly stated he now thinks me and 6ah are scum together, so he's set himself up to be able to still push me/further discredit things I say.

I'm so tempted just to vote Tolk to watch him mislynch just so I can lord it over him but that's shit play and also might be exactly what he's going for. I truly can't tell if he's just being an ass or if he has scum motives on this.

I said it was interesting, not plausible or believable.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 17:11 GMT
#433
On July 04 2015 02:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 02:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:49 ComaDose wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Wave of Shadow

You DO realise that voting the guy that doesn't even know his alignment will make the flip way less informational, right? Because he doesn't even have motivation behind his votes

I think this is a good point. If the one who is lynched flips mod, we can be reasonably sure that the mayor was not mod. If they flip town well... people make mistakes but based off of how many people agree with the decision it could still be telling.
if we choose someone who doesnt know their alignment then they could pick mod but then still end up being mod themselves.

Yeah except Tolk has openly stated he now thinks me and 6ah are scum together, so he's set himself up to be able to still push me/further discredit things I say.

I'm so tempted just to vote Tolk to watch him mislynch just so I can lord it over him but that's shit play and also might be exactly what he's going for. I truly can't tell if he's just being an ass or if he has scum motives on this.

I said it was interesting, not plausible or believable.


Then why say it at all? Random conjecture like that is sketchy - it makes you able to say what you want, but no one can hold you accountable for it? "It's just a prank, bro"

Was mostly a disjointed thought after waking up.

I was considering how much VE deserved a lynch (the interesting relationship being something that made me want to lynch him more). If you join that with the post I made previously, it makes sense.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 17:13 GMT
#435
On July 04 2015 02:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 01:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
@LT
You can probably ask anyone, but me playing poorly is not mafia indicative.

Fair enough. It's still disconcerting.

On July 04 2015 01:38 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:31 Lord Tolkien wrote:
aka, while I accept that GB has valid reasons for not voting for pol, I have no clue why he wants to make Wave mayor.


I explained why I think Wave is most likely town

Just because you think he's town doesn't mean he's mayor material.


Why not?

Does he need a Political Science degree?

There are two things in mafia I've learned not to trust. Medic claims and juicy dads.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468739-tllolotgdtm


On July 04 2015 01:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:31 Lord Tolkien wrote:
aka, while I accept that GB has valid reasons for not voting for pol, I have no clue why he wants to make Wave mayor.


I explained why I think Wave is most likely town

Just because you think he's town doesn't mean he's mayor material.

So hows about you get off your high fucking horse and choose a lynch and show us how you singlehandedly plan on winning the game for town, k?

Either 6ah or Asmo, for obvious reasons. I'm not picky. Maybe coma, but the flip is less informative. I'll have to check his filter again. Too many null reads right now because everyone's memeing so hard and I'm generally a terrible D1er.

Now then, who would you lynch.

Once again, you're fucking kidding me right?
I was the very first and nearly the only one to make a case YESTERDAY.
I know what my reasons for wanting to lynch 6ah, what are yours?
'Obvious reasons' doesn't cut it.

And assuming we want to lynch the same person then, what is your big fucking problem with someone voting me for mayor?
You've got some horrible and contradictory shit in your filter and it all appears to me in the name of pissing me off/giving me a shit attitude.
Again can't tell if ass or scum.

I want to hear other people's input here because I'm likely extremely biased as all of tolk's attitude has been directed at me despite the fact that he thought I was town (and now possibly scum? even though he says he wants to lynch asmo and 6ah)

I do think you're town, I just doubt your judgement.

I would lynch either Asmo or 6ah. At this point, the most analytically useful flips, since my scum reads are not strong.

Probably 6ah over Asmo but eh. Not picky, again.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 17:30 GMT
#441
On July 04 2015 02:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
flipping for information lol

okay we only have one option left to salvage this
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
##Vote Holyflare

Yep.

You guys aren't giving me much to go on since I decided to .


On July 04 2015 02:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 02:11 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 02:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 02:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:49 ComaDose wrote:
On July 04 2015 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Wave of Shadow

You DO realise that voting the guy that doesn't even know his alignment will make the flip way less informational, right? Because he doesn't even have motivation behind his votes

I think this is a good point. If the one who is lynched flips mod, we can be reasonably sure that the mayor was not mod. If they flip town well... people make mistakes but based off of how many people agree with the decision it could still be telling.
if we choose someone who doesnt know their alignment then they could pick mod but then still end up being mod themselves.

Yeah except Tolk has openly stated he now thinks me and 6ah are scum together, so he's set himself up to be able to still push me/further discredit things I say.

I'm so tempted just to vote Tolk to watch him mislynch just so I can lord it over him but that's shit play and also might be exactly what he's going for. I truly can't tell if he's just being an ass or if he has scum motives on this.

I said it was interesting, not plausible or believable.


Then why say it at all? Random conjecture like that is sketchy - it makes you able to say what you want, but no one can hold you accountable for it? "It's just a prank, bro"

Was mostly a disjointed thought after waking up.

I was considering how much VE deserved a lynch (the interesting relationship being something that made me want to lynch him more). If you join that with the post I made previously, it makes sense.

So me VE and 6ah complete scumteam 36h into the game huh?
Makes sense.

?

The reason I would rather see 6ah killed off it because it provides a better picture of you and VE. 6ah cannot be scum with you or VE, hence the most informative flip.

On July 04 2015 02:12 ComaDose wrote:
LT you wound me. why would i be suspect #3 of yours? most obvious townie no longer i thinks. i vote me as your replacement.

Your vote post for pol was very fluffy. Nothing new or exciting and there were issues I took with it. You're trying, but there's pretty much a dearth of choice for me since I don't really want to lynch VE D1 (mostly because the only thing it sheds light on is 6ah). And I have like 4 null reads right now.

Asmo has also been fairly eh: all he's done is say he doesn't like BM voting him and "omgus, 6ah, you want to lynch me i vote u". And follow my suggestion to vote pol.



Also, Dandel is almost certainly town. I'm actually more comfortable voting him than Holyflare at this point.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 17:32 GMT
#442
Mostly because all Holyflare has done is post memes and asked people to vote for him, but eh.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 18:10 GMT
#446
Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post.

Still,

On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking.

I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me.

Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town.

Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town.

Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters.

You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads).

The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.

One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know.

pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch.

This is the section which I really don't like.


If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help.

Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking.

Also,
#vote: Dandel Ion
Getting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement.

My order of preference:
Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 18:11 GMT
#447
On July 04 2015 02:58 ComaDose wrote:
We only have 6hrs left to vote...

EoD is the most busy time of day. It's fine.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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