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On July 03 2015 02:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 01:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2015 01:34 Cixah wrote:
I still like asmo for mayor but Plot could be maybe a legit choice.
My reads on soniv still stand, he's pretty much the only person I can see as hard town atm, Wave is trying to make more sense of it though I do wish he would reconsider on me as I only have town's best interest. I do not like VE's or Mordek's posting but that's just D1 stuff from here. LT's posts have some reason to them, but still feel very alternate agenda to me. I would like to here more from him in regards to who the BEST lynch today might be, rather than who mayor should be.
Time for work, I'll be reading but probs not posting too much till I get home or after 6pm my time. I like this. Doesn't mean you're not scum, but still. Too much focus on roleclaiming and mayor shit. Guess what? Mayor elections don't win us the game ladies. I don't know how you can say "too much focus" on topics that haven't spanned tons of pages (or even many pages). Discussion of potential mayor is pretty standard for beginning D1 discussion. Plot's claim is weird to me. Show nested quote +On July 02 2015 23:26 plotspot wrote:
It's like the only role you're allowed to recite with impunity. Can't have it all in the specific rules book. Would be too cluttering. I'm not going to take this just a face value. He says "oh don't worry about it if I don't get modkilled". Uhhh...k? So does that mean it's a fake claim? According to rules (as I understand them), you can't copy/paste role text. Maybe it's true that his role is somehow exempt, but that's not something I know to be true. I agree that I'd like to know Plot's scumreads, especially if he is to be mayor (although I have no real burning desire to make him mayor over others). But rather than continually criticizing the discussion, wave, what are your reads?
I think I'm literally the only person in the game who has given a scumread so far, dear carlson.
I appreciate the attempt to throw this all back at me, but I have given plenty of reads, and have done a great deal to further discussion, should people care to discuss it.
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Your turn.
All I see from you is speculation and 'I don't trust this guy.' How about something a little more concrete?
If you don't happen to think anyone is scum yet, perhaps you might hav an idea as to who is town?
Let's chat.
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On July 03 2015 01:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Plot since it seems like you might be the mayor here, (and for some reason everyone is ok with you being mayor despite the fact that the mayor's sole purpose is to decide the day's lynch and NOBODY knows who you want to lynch yet,) any reads for us?
Like I actually don't understand why people are obsessed with picking a town player as mayor. If a scum picks it up they still have to lynch who we say or they reveal themselves. Y'all have your priorities all out of whack.
On July 03 2015 02:00 Bill Murray wrote:
i disagree
Disagree that scum would have to reveal themselves if they don't lynch who the majority of people want to get lynched? That makes sense it isn't a hard reveal but it would definitely look bad if they lynch town when not a lot of people wanted to lynch that person. And obviously we don't want to lynch town period.
A good point brought up is that we should be voting for the mayor that wants to lynch the same person as we do therefore making our vote count. If only I had some hard reads i could follow up on. maybe lurkers?
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On July 03 2015 02:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Your turn.
All I see from you is speculation and 'I don't trust this guy.' How about something a little more concrete?
If you don't happen to think anyone is scum yet, perhaps you might hav an idea as to who is town?
Let's chat.
=D
I don't have anything pushing me hard to one side or the other at this point, but a few leanings I do have.
Cixah - I agree with your general points. Buddying up to me but being more scrupulous on you seems odd. It's also a natural thing to do for peeps from OT - cozy up to the OTers who have mafia experience. He does seem to want to keep shedding doubt on your reads. Leaning scum for zombie.
Asmo - leaning scum, but it's a bit of a toss up. Mostly just gut feeling off of his reaction to mayor nomination.
BM - leaning town, but he's super quiet. I'm assuming he's being the silent observer and he'll drop mad bombs soon.
LT - honestly leaning town, but I hate when people declare that they're just obvious townie. It always gives me pause.
Several players have very low content thus far, so I'm remaining null there. Holyflare has also disappeared.
GB - I hate when games start with a post like this:
On July 02 2015 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
O HAI
I'M town
Horridly WIFOM. Also:
On July 02 2015 11:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Choosing mayors is boring
I want to lunch people
You said you want to lunch peeps GB, so who do you want to lunch? I'll hold you to the same standard I held Wave - don't complain about the direction of the thread, give us some feedback.
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I would like to here more from him in regards to who the BEST lynch today might be, rather than who mayor should be.
You, because you're questioning obvious town.
In all seriousness, we're just over half a day into the game. If you have strong reads, I'm calling bullshit, because there's nothing to base any lynch accusation on right now besides lulz and hunches.
On July 03 2015 01:54 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 01:34 Cixah wrote:
I still like asmo for mayor but Plot could be maybe a legit choice.
My reads on soniv still stand, he's pretty much the only person I can see as hard town atm, Wave is trying to make more sense of it though I do wish he would reconsider on me as I only have town's best interest. I do not like VE's or Mordek's posting but that's just D1 stuff from here. LT's posts have some reason to them, but still feel very alternate agenda to me. I would like to here more from him in regards to who the BEST lynch today might be, rather than who mayor should be.
Time for work, I'll be reading but probs not posting too much till I get home or after 6pm my time. I like this. Doesn't mean you're not scum, but still. Too much focus on roleclaiming and mayor shit. Guess what? Mayor elections don't win us the game ladies.
So you're telling me,
1) we shouldn't analyze the guy who just claimed "I might be green or red, but idk right now"
2) it doesn't matter if we give scum D1 lynch power?
To be fair, 2) is pretty w/e because abusing it and lynching blatantly townie people like me would give OBVIOUS SCUM ALERT signs to everyone, which means the lynch has to be somewhat plausible (which means they'll end up lynching a lurker, probably) but come on.
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I have an OGI read that Cixah is mafia. Everyone should make me mayor so I can excise this threat.
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Anyways, I've decided. I'm putting Wave in OT Mafia, Episode I, category for now until he sobers up.
Also Soniv, I would probably peg you town, but you're questioning my obvious townie status. How dare you question my inane, jocular statement.
As for GB, I've played a few mafia games with him, and I'm fairly certain I know how to read him.
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On July 03 2015 02:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Anyways, I've decided. I'm putting Wave in OT Mafia, Episode I, category for now until he sobers up.
Also Soniv, I would probably peg you town, but you're questioning my obvious townie status. How dare you question my inane, jocular statement.
As for GB, I've played a few mafia games with him, and I'm fairly certain I know how to read him.
Do you have any leaning for GB then? I don't think I've played with him before, but his filter is pretty devoid of anything. If it weren't for that first post, he'd probably be null on my radar like the other lurky people, but that first one just makes me think "ugh, fuck you".
@VE - I need more to go on than that.
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And right now, my read is ambivalent, very, very slight townlean.
The person I would watch is holyflare, because the only thing he's done is post dank memes, and he's one of the strongest players in the game.
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On July 03 2015 02:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 02:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Anyways, I've decided. I'm putting Wave in OT Mafia, Episode I, category for now until he sobers up.
Also Soniv, I would probably peg you town, but you're questioning my obvious townie status. How dare you question my inane, jocular statement.
As for GB, I've played a few mafia games with him, and I'm fairly certain I know how to read him. Do you have any leaning for GB then? I don't think I've played with him before, but his filter is pretty devoid of anything. If it weren't for that first post, he'd probably be null on my radar like the other lurky people, but that first one just makes me think "ugh, fuck you". @VE - I need more to go on than that.
As you say, there's little to go on right now.
However,
On July 02 2015 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, I'm not voting Asmodeus
On July 02 2015 13:42 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2015 11:22 Cixah wrote:
Can't give power to people who don't want it, won't give power to people who do want it. This is worse than anything else we could have discussed in our d1.
All euros read scum to me right now. Soniv is town, wave might be town. Let's party friends we've got so much more time to play games today!
Let use hear from so euros tho. Dandel. What is your favorite type of shower and is it the one you use to wipe all the scum off your face? Can you explain those townreads?
The actual serious posts he's done so far indicate, to me at least, he's trying to gauge some reactions.
It's been awhile though, so I'll look back at those mafia games I played with him.
Also, don't trust his reads on me. Because I distinctly remember when he tried to defend me in that HS mafia game, when I was fucking around so hard and trying to get bussed D1.
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On July 03 2015 02:34 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +I would like to here more from him in regards to who the BEST lynch today might be, rather than who mayor should be. You, because you're questioning obvious town. In all seriousness, we're just over half a day into the game. If you have strong reads, I'm calling bullshit, because there's nothing to base any lynch accusation on right now besides lulz and hunches. Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 01:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2015 01:34 Cixah wrote:
I still like asmo for mayor but Plot could be maybe a legit choice.
My reads on soniv still stand, he's pretty much the only person I can see as hard town atm, Wave is trying to make more sense of it though I do wish he would reconsider on me as I only have town's best interest. I do not like VE's or Mordek's posting but that's just D1 stuff from here. LT's posts have some reason to them, but still feel very alternate agenda to me. I would like to here more from him in regards to who the BEST lynch today might be, rather than who mayor should be.
Time for work, I'll be reading but probs not posting too much till I get home or after 6pm my time. I like this. Doesn't mean you're not scum, but still. Too much focus on roleclaiming and mayor shit. Guess what? Mayor elections don't win us the game ladies. So you're telling me, 1) we shouldn't analyze the guy who just claimed "I might be green or red, but idk right now" 2) it doesn't matter if we give scum D1 lynch power? To be fair, 2) is pretty w/e because abusing it and lynching blatantly townie people like me would give OBVIOUS SCUM ALERT signs to everyone, which means the lynch has to be somewhat plausible (which means they'll end up lynching a lurker, probably) but come on.
I never said we shouldn't analyze him, but nobody is so far, they're just questioning the validity of his claim which doesn't matter worth a poop.
And no, it doesn't matter AS MUCH if we give scum lynch power for the reasons outlined. Obviously we should be reasonably sure, but more importantly we should be focusing on reads, as most people appear to be doing currently.
Soniv I'm feeling the LT townread a little bit but I'm not a fan of his attitude thus far.
As for your others---Asmo I'm probably going to be basically useless in terms of reading. He's coming of as completely timid/newbie again and we know how well that went the first time. Do you notice something specifically different in his play this time around that you didn't see last time? Because otherwise he sits firm null for me atm.
GB you gotta threaten to lynch him to make him do stuff a lot of the time. I'm all for that either way.
BM I was thinking scum actually but then again I haven't played with him in a long time and I don't think I've ever seen him play for realz/really well as apparently he's been doing more recently. I don't feel like looking up his recent games either. I'd give him a slight scumlean.
I'd throw VE a townread on feels atm.
##vote: VisceraEyes
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On July 02 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:I was expecting people asking me why I wasn't voting asmodeus. I'm disappointed. The quoted is the reason why. I know that Bill Murray, as scum, pushes his scum agenda very hard. I wouldn't be surprised if mafia Bill is voting scum partner asmodeus here. His reason to vote is weak (asmodeus wants to be mayor?). That said, I am not risking voting him for this sole reason.
This read in particular seems kinda forced but not in a regular way?
I dunno. Getting odd vibes from it.
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On July 03 2015 02:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Anyways, I've decided. I'm putting Wave in OT Mafia, Episode I, category for now until he sobers up.
Also Soniv, I would probably peg you town, but you're questioning my obvious townie status. How dare you question my inane, jocular statement.
As for GB, I've played a few mafia games with him, and I'm fairly certain I know how to read him.
Reading this again I REALLY don't like this post. Maybe I'm biased because it seems a lot of people are just apt to throw out everything I say because of last game (except Soniv?) but to do so not for a general reason like some others but because you specifically found some fault in those two incredibly weak points (one of which you admit has merit anyway?)
Stinks, bro.
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You're basically telling us we shouldn't be focusing on the two most notable events that have occurred early D1. In other words, you're telling us not to try and discuss and gauge reactions on them. I partially agree with you that the mayor role isn't that important, but still.
wat
Do you want to go back to kill la kill and jinx icon spam.
Like, saying Y'all have your priorities all out of whack.
would be true IF THIS WAS D2 OR LATE D1, but we literally have bupkis to go on without these two things right now, and we don't really need a complete derail of the discussion.
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Right now I vote the mayor lynch Holyflare. He's too quiet and honestly? I've played with scum!HF as both town and scum and he's a goddamn pain to figure out (if he's scum).
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On July 03 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right now I vote the mayor lynch Holyflare. He's too quiet and honestly? I've played with scum!HF as both town and scum and he's a goddamn pain to figure out (if he's scum).
Nah it's easy. You lynch him if he's still in the game beyond a certain point.
He'll help us lynch scum early as either town or scum so there's no reason to remove him right away.
So is your reason to lynch HF based on the fact that he's scum or you're afraid that at some point he might turn out to be?
This is interesting to me.
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On July 03 2015 03:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:You're basically telling us we shouldn't be focusing on the two most notable events that have occurred early D1. In other words, you're telling us not to try and discuss and gauge reactions on them. I partially agree with you that the mayor role isn't that important, but still. wat Do you want to go back to kill la kill and jinx icon spam. Like, saying would be true IF THIS WAS D2 OR LATE D1, but we literally have bupkis to go on without these two things right now, and we don't really need a complete derail of the discussion.
AND it's real great that you disagree with me about this and whatnot, and have placed me into 'OT Mafia !' category----so does that mean I'm town?
Is there a point to your disagreement?
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because i cant be arsed to read him
Also because I want to light an fire under his ass but hey.
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Well it's unnecessary.
He'll play.
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On July 03 2015 03:14 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 03:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:You're basically telling us we shouldn't be focusing on the two most notable events that have occurred early D1. In other words, you're telling us not to try and discuss and gauge reactions on them. I partially agree with you that the mayor role isn't that important, but still. wat Do you want to go back to kill la kill and jinx icon spam. Like, saying Y'all have your priorities all out of whack. would be true IF THIS WAS D2 OR LATE D1, but we literally have bupkis to go on without these two things right now, and we don't really need a complete derail of the discussion. AND it's real great that you disagree with me about this and whatnot, and have placed me into 'OT Mafia !' category----so does that mean I'm town? Is there a point to your disagreement?
1) Tentatively yes. Or being really clumsy scum, but I'm quite happy with your posts right now.
2) Yes.
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