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Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 17 2015 22:30 GMT
#1204
hi people

I have not read the thread

how is this game going?
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 17 2015 22:43 GMT
#1225
well this game is boring, no one will talk to me

I'm going to make dinner
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 17 2015 22:49 GMT
#1232
On June 18 2015 07:44 rsoultin wrote:
i'll talk to you

but you know...say something worth talking about xP or read the game

or read the filters of the people being scumread/voted on at least

you know, the normal things -_-

On June 18 2015 07:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:43 Lohengramm wrote:
well this game is boring, no one will talk to me

I'm going to make dinner


You actually need to talk to us you know... theres almost 70 pages worth of content XD

On June 18 2015 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:43 Lohengramm wrote:
well this game is boring, no one will talk to me

I'm going to make dinner


we can't really say much until you catch up


I found my first three townreads!
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 00:54 GMT
#1264
i started reading but then I stopped

how useful is actually reading this game, exactly?

60 pages seems overkill for 24 hours LOL
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 00:55 GMT
#1265
actually no, I'm going to read this game

after I decide who to lynch
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 00:57 GMT
#1266
On June 17 2015 07:19 NydusHerMain wrote:
"My fucking vt claim"

Just feels like really awkward phrasing. Doesn't feel genuine, kinda like he's missing a couple of words.

I feel like this is pretty awful

On June 17 2015 07:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't like kelsier either. Stupid thing to go on rofl. I think that if I saw someone else post what I did I'd be like "great that doesn't really mean anything. Let's move on" haha


at least he realizes he's awful

On June 17 2015 07:42 GlowingBear wrote:
The SUPER AWESOME PRELIMINARY READS LIST REGARDING THE FIRST 3 PAGES OF THE THREAD

Probs town
LS
Nydus

Probs mafai
Boxerfred
Onegu

Yeah. This little.


feels off

the tone of his posting is to trollish. as town he seems more dickish and tryhard. no like.

this is what I have so far

you guys deal with it
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 09:24 GMT
#1492
from what I've read, I disagree with lynching lightningstrike seeing as I don't think he's mafia yet from his posting. he seems genuine, however poor his play has been. Claiming blue I'd think he actually does more as town than as mafia, counter to whatever people have said about that subject.

I will read this BF guy quickly before I have to leave.
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 09:34 GMT
#1494
On June 18 2015 05:17 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:17 boxerfred wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:14 Holyflare wrote:
On June 18 2015 01:09 boxerfred wrote:
EBWOP: "So I'd like the more experienced players in here if HF is a player that is capable of changing his meta and who cares - or not." - "So I'd like to ASK ..."


whether i follow or am capable of changing my meta or not is irrelevant because that post is nothing about how i am playing and everything about how rsoul was playing and misrepresenting my play to make some bs scum read on me

not sure how you can make that post and not realise that

I think that this is actually really relevant because if you're not the guy to change you're meta, you're most likely town. if I am to trust the meta read that someone (have to recall) made on you. Gonna look into rsoul too when I'm home.
Just don't forget that all I did by now was skimming through the thread, reading Kelsier's and your filter. That's not too much, so my first conclusions won't be too great, eh?


i try and change but always fall into the same spammy nature eventually

either way your giant post says:

i'm mafia because i am aware of my meta and pointed out someone lying about past games to "fake" a read on me
i'm mafia because i posted that after i posted a small reply to a big post

you should be coming to the opposite conclusion on the first line since i'm pointing out people doing scummy things - lying (but for some reason you ignore that and say it's scummy i know my meta?)

and the second line isn't even true since it comes AFTER i made my vote and wasn't even in response to the big post since it was posted at the exact same time she posted the big one

then you say i could be town if i stick to my meta lol!??! how does knowing my meta relate to your read on me at all? IF i did something the same way 3 games in a row and someone says i didn't do that and i'm scummy for not acting the same way then i can't really comprehend how you could even make your case to begin with

it pretty much makes me think you just picked a filter and decided to scum read someone and then forgot about what actually happened in their filter altogether and it's pretty scummy

I'm saying that the fact that you know how your meta appears does make it impossible to let your meta speak for you. Especially if you point that out. My logic might be flawed but I feel like if you yourself know how you appear in town games, it's really easy for you to make the same appearance in a scum game, especially if your meta seemingly consists of joking around and making nonsense day 1. That alone does not make it scummy, yes, but the fact that you point towards your meta as an indicator of your town alignment means that you use your meta to your purpose which does indeed appear scummy to me.

I don't know what line you refer to with the bolded part. The line I quoted came immediately after the huge post I quoted so that's why I took it into context. For me it looked (and looks) like you we answering to this post and I did not like the way you did it at all.

And well, I learned by now that it is easily possible to horribly misread someone so I'm saying that yes, while I interpret your meta mentioning as scummy, it is very well possible that I am wrong and your play up to my post simply says "Yes, I'm town."

All those things are indicators and rather weak points, I followed that up with a vote for two reasons:

a) I only looked into Kelsier and you at this point
b) I wanted to see your reactions to this post.

So off of this reaction, I feel like it's an emotional response. It feels genuine. I like that.

BF's post here is very over-explained and "safe". It's also worth noting that after this thing fizzles out and he makes the comment at the end, he then essentially has no direction to go in and actually just stops posting. I think BF could be mafia that just has a hard time posting convincingly given that he's basically only discussed HF in his filter and the rest of his posts are just promises for activity.

He's a fine D1 lynch I think, given that I only have 12 hours until deadline. I'll be back a couple hours before the lynch to update my vote if necessary but it would require BF to actually come back and talk about other things in a more emotionally invested way for me to do so.
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 09:35 GMT
#1495
On June 18 2015 18:32 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 18:24 Lohengramm wrote:
from what I've read, I disagree with lynching lightningstrike seeing as I don't think he's mafia yet from his posting. he seems genuine, however poor his play has been. Claiming blue I'd think he actually does more as town than as mafia, counter to whatever people have said about that subject.

I will read this BF guy quickly before I have to leave.


to actually get the read on BF you have to look at the case by hf, bf hasn't really posted anything in a long time.

or I can read his filter and decide for myself.

you know, like any sane player would do

also, you seem to be voting LS which I disagree with. you should probs stop that.
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 19:30 GMT
#1747
I'm going to continue to smurf for filter purposes, and because this account's name is fucking awesome. But yes, I am Yamato.

I will read filters until deadline. BF I have already read but if he's posted anything new I will give my thoughts. I will read LS closer but I really don't think he's mafia at all. As said before, I have a vague suspicion of GB but I admittedly only read like 10 pages.

For now, so I don't get modkilled after replacing in;

##Vote: boxerfred
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 19:35 GMT
#1754
On June 19 2015 04:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 04:30 Lohengramm wrote:
I'm going to continue to smurf for filter purposes, and because this account's name is fucking awesome. But yes, I am Yamato.

I will read filters until deadline. BF I have already read but if he's posted anything new I will give my thoughts. I will read LS closer but I really don't think he's mafia at all. As said before, I have a vague suspicion of GB but I admittedly only read like 10 pages.

For now, so I don't get modkilled after replacing in;

##Vote: boxerfred


this is an oddly convenient time to come in and vote BF

and you didn't bother responding to my questions! (or reading, I guess...) I hoped you weren't scum this game but perhaps you are after all

I haven't fucking read the thread.

If you have anything in specific you can link me but otherwise don't be a dumbass and complain that I haven't answered your questions when I clearly said I wouldn't be playing until just a couple hours before deadline.

Call it convenient timing or whatever, I literally just got home from work and I'm not in the mood for more whiny bitches.
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 19:36 GMT
#1758
Also I literally forgot to vote earlier when I said I was going to vote. That's the ONLY reason I'm voting right now.

Jesus WBG don't fling shit for no reason.
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 19:48 GMT
#1779
On June 19 2015 02:56 boxerfred wrote:
ok so just a short explanation on why I'm gone: I'm having my oral exam tomorrow and I currently value learning stuff higher than playing. I do have the time to post but I don't want to spend it on that :/ sorry peeps. I'll tell you if I passed or not in another 24 hours.

So apparently he posted this an hour and a half ago.

It doesn't really change what I've said about him at all, really, given that I still have the same issues with his play this game that I did before. Notably, his play in the Surprisingly Normal game is starkly different than his play this game. This game, he feels uptight, uncomfortable and also somewhat apologetic, while in surprisingly normal he was rather aggressive in tone and seemed more relaxed in the early game.
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 20:27 GMT
#1847
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this.

So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town.

this is like the third time I've seen this PSA

I think you failed pal
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 20:29 GMT
#1855
LOL there's a voting thread

I may yet decide to lynch GB

regardless of his alignment I think it'll be entertaining
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 20:46 GMT
#1885
I tentatively dislike lynching GB but I'm only on p6 of his filter.

It reads tonally carefree.
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 20:55 GMT
#1891
On June 18 2015 14:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 14:34 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:32 GlowingBear wrote:
This should be the lynch list to discuss today:

- Lohengramm
- ShoCkeyy
- Fidei86
- Breshke
- Mig
- VayneAuthority
- boxerfred

Not in order.

Rsoultin and ritoky, is there anyone from here you don't want to lynch today?


the problem is that is a list of low post count/low hanging fruit in a lot of cases which means i am probably wrong somewhere, but w/e.

breshke and fid would be the last 2 i lynch on that list atm, but if a case was made that was good i could be convinced.


Lost post count is exactly what made this list + some scummy things in some of the filters.
Like, if I had to put in order form LYNCH NOW to DUNNO LOL, it would be something like this:

- Breshke
- ShoCkeyy
- Lohengramm
- boxerfred
- VayneAuthority
- Mig
- Fidei86

Yes, I totally flipped my read on Breshke

I do wonder how this list was formed

it seems kinda out of nowhere given his posting up to this point
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 21:04 GMT
#1911
On June 19 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
I don't feel nearly as good about bf as i do gb

On June 19 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:06 ritoky wrote:
okay from HF's thing i remember the vanishing onegu read and the lack of follow-up on VA stuff which was kinda scummy.

any1 gonna try to convince me on BF, or is that just a wagon full of AFKs?


ok the thing is about bf is he was a major major point of contention in the last game the entire game and constantly looked scummy so now i'm getting the willies since i think gb is mafia and he was quite fucking happy to just afk on bf with his hipster only first post read and bf has promised he'd play tomorrow so i'm kindddddd of willing to let it slide

especially with this mafia gb trying to throw shit in every direction to people scum reading him and then asking loaded questions where he's prepared the worst/most fake answers ever





dunno how many times i have to requote this before i get people to unvote bf

Yeah but his posting there was quite different than his posting here.

Also, here he is coming back to the thread just before deadline to vote to save himself.

eehhhhhhhhh
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 21:09 GMT
#1920
On June 19 2015 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
onegu, shockey, yamato, ritoky and mig with the wasted votes and a lot of people completely ignoring what i write about bf

sweeeeet

I'm waiting to vote

also, your posts about BF amount to "cold feet". I actually have meta-related reasons to think he's mafia.

I have tone-related reasons to think GB might be town but also have content-related reasons to think he's mafia.

You bitching like this is not the way to push through a lynch. >_>

I am inclined to vote against you just for this kind of whiny shit.
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 21:14 GMT
#1929
On June 19 2015 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:04 Lohengramm wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
I don't feel nearly as good about bf as i do gb

On June 19 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:06 ritoky wrote:
okay from HF's thing i remember the vanishing onegu read and the lack of follow-up on VA stuff which was kinda scummy.

any1 gonna try to convince me on BF, or is that just a wagon full of AFKs?


ok the thing is about bf is he was a major major point of contention in the last game the entire game and constantly looked scummy so now i'm getting the willies since i think gb is mafia and he was quite fucking happy to just afk on bf with his hipster only first post read and bf has promised he'd play tomorrow so i'm kindddddd of willing to let it slide

especially with this mafia gb trying to throw shit in every direction to people scum reading him and then asking loaded questions where he's prepared the worst/most fake answers ever





dunno how many times i have to requote this before i get people to unvote bf

Yeah but his posting there was quite different than his posting here.

Also, here he is coming back to the thread just before deadline to vote to save himself.

eehhhhhhhhh


hey that's exactly what i said earlier but bugs shut me down it's not exactly hard if he has promised to be more active tomorrow though and is complete shit though

gb has had 48 hours to play and has actually made posts and has multiple reasons to be mafia

Meh. I liked GB's mid-day stuff but when it comes to who he wanted to lynch I felt like he sort of fell apart and I could no longer follow his thought process.

BF though I still don't like much at all and the timing of all of this is rather weird.
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