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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:37 GMT
#4273
I'm confused? Scum doesn't have a majority so they have to convince town to lynch hf if he's town. The only people pushing against it is myself and oneg.

Ls thinks he's towny but would lynch him. So it's not like it's hard to get him lynched.

Unless you think the team is me hf and oneg. Which is I,sulting
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:38 GMT
#4274
On June 28 2015 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
heres what it comes down to for me

2 out of damdred, onegu, and shockeyy are scum imo, have to figure out who is town of those.


Could you at least explain why you think,I'm scum if it's just Poe so,be it but a quick explanation
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 00:45 GMT
#4287
Here's the thing. What about this game screams hf is the best scum player ever if he's scum.

Having his team mate sacrifice himself,for a cop during the game,and getting himself lynched next.

Super weird kills?
It just doesn't look right for a hf scuk
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 02:04 GMT
#4289
Well don't just think because x disagrees I must be wrong, it very well could be I'm not giving it enough weight.

One thing to consider when looking at the night kills is was this person trying to solve the game.

Ij some regards it points to an experienced scum maybe hf maybe not. The team took out some people who were legitimately trying to solve the game.

So I mean there are some things going for hf being scum, buy I also think that the weird mig claim. The masons surviving unscathed for so long, especially when RS is a good player and the d1 lynch is towards hf being town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 02:17 GMT
#4291
Well then obviously it would be nydus in that situation.

However we are still in a world where you could of had your shot blocked so I have to consider you.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 02:31 GMT
#4295
No clue honestly, nhm probably but I haven't looked at voting patterns to much or anything bmabout lining up.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 02:39 GMT
#4296
RS has decent reads and tries to figure the game out.

oneg why did you vote for GB in the situation?

LS why did you vote for GB yesterday? Especially when rmconfirmed town RS pushed against it?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 18:44 GMT
#4310
i'm here you guys give m some reads and thoughts?

Like LS why would you believe mig over GB int hat situation?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 19:12 GMT
#4312
But tina was saying a decent bit about how mig would of claimed the previous day if he was really the tracker, so why didn't you listen to confirmed town tina in that scenario?

I mean that's not like you in that situation ls -_-.

Other than that where else is your head at ls
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 19:50 GMT
#4318
Holyflare (2): rsoultin, GlowingBear, LightningStrike, Onegu, ruXxar, Fidei86, NydusHerMain
GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu
Mig (3): ruXxar, rsoultin, Fidei86

This vote isn't as telling as I thought it could potentially be.

GB is AFK on his red check of HF here, myself and shockey are both non voters. So the votes not going to be as useful as I hoped.

And I keep coming back to HF, his vote here is just self preservation at its finest and one side of the coin is that he can talk himself out of a lynch as scum and mig can't. So theres that to hrmmmm.

This is a difficult game, Oneg and LS votes bug me a lot

It looks really good for ruxxar a little bit voting on now confirmed scum mig
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 20:34 GMT
#4343
There are a few things i'm struggling with in regards to LS here

I had a decent town read on him earlier, and his activity really seems like town LS even when he screws himself over by saying whatever is in his head which he is apt to do as town.

His ignoring Rsoultin is difficult for me to cope with in that situation, but his vote isn't as bad as Onegs is in that situation I think. Him voting with LS and just calling it consolidation when red check hf or fake claiming mig could of died just rubs me the wrong way I guess?...

LS crazy theory about being green checked but he was framed.... idk, it just read sso bad and scummy that it might just come from town LS which is one of the strangest things about him. Its difficult so difficult.

LS give me some reads?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 20:54 GMT
#4351
All of these people trying to convince me now and talking to me is scary q.q just 10-20 hours ago iw as on everyones scum radar
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 21:13 GMT
#4356
Considering every time i'm here I play, I play when i'm here.

You always think i'm scum though Vayne which is sad overall I think
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 28 2015 21:15 GMT
#4357
I won't say i'm not suspicious of LS at this juncture, his sudden vote shift really really bothers me around the lynch day.

But I don't think I would lynch him tomorrow
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 17:27 GMT
#4422
I just woke up rough day yesterday, give me a few minutes to cath up and i'll give my thoughts.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 18:05 GMT
#4423
On June 29 2015 10:20 NydusHerMain wrote:
Oh and don't forget that VA jailed me the night that RS died. If I'm on a scum team, I'm probably the lowest on everyone's radar. I carry the kp 100%


This logic is bad, VA was more than likely RB if they have one, its impossible for us to know though. But likely to a degree

On June 29 2015 10:39 Holyflare wrote:
and I find it odd you randomly want to sheep rsoultin because of what logic exactly? That she was pushing me? She also lynched boxerfred, yamato and was going to lynch glowingbear before he claimed cop. So why exactly do you think she's correct and sheepable now?


You know that this is wrong HF idk why you would say something like this exactly.

On June 29 2015 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 11:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:05 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:01 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:55 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:51 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote:
She wanted to lynch MiG at the end and she wanted to lynch you quickly after. It's weird for her to finally die when she's been leading a shit ton of mislynches? Also, I'm not mafia so I'm just going to defend myself like you've been doing for the last couple of days. "ermahgerd I'm not mafia so like ya'll are dum dums"

Anyways, check MiG's filter peeps. Damdred is like his tunnelled scum for a while. I don't think Damdred should be on the table today for lynching. He also only talks about HF when asked to by RS.


This bolded is quite a misrepresentation. I haven't been defending myself like you're insinuating and I find it unlikely that you can say that having said that you are reading the thread.

On June 25 2015 02:51 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 25 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
why would you not read everything i wrote before coming to a conclusion? i think the things i've written are pretty damning anyway, for GB and Damdred at least


You looked bored so I gave a quick post before reading




On June 25 2015 08:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 25 2015 08:22 Holyflare wrote:
problem is i don't flip red


I think that you trying so hard near the end makes you leaning town. What I'm thinking is that if MiG made that claim, he had to have been talking to his partners about it in mafia QT. Why would you be trying so hard as if you're the lynch if you're scum partners with MiG and know that he's about to fake claim? It's kinda awkward. I dunno. We'll see later on since this game is about to get into crazy LyLo and I'm unconfirmed so gonna make it til the end (hopefully).


I find it hard how you can say the first bolded after making your stance on me clear the day before (above)

Did you run out of mislynches to push? Nothing has changed since then other than rsoultin relentlessly tunneling on situations that didn't make sense and me correcting her. If you'd like a thorough explanation on why I'll be happy to provide it. Keep on keeping on with your scummy stance changes for no reason though!


What the fuck? You think that if I'm mafia, you're the mislynch I try to land on? You think I'm going to run out of scummy people? Dude, if I'm scum, at least one of damdred, onegu, shockey is town. I can push damdred on inactivity, I can push onegu on inactivity and his LS push, I can push shockey for being scummy overall. Oh wait, I have been pushing on almost all of them this entire game. Everyone who's alive today? I've pushed on except for you until now.


I think you are pushing a logical fallacy "what mafia must have done so you must be mafia" in order to get a towny lynched when you have displayed quite clearly that you think the opposite to what you are pushing today. It's also quite a big stretch that you've been afk for almost 3 cycles now and when it becomes a triple lylo where people have to be pushed for actual logic you disregard it and focus on mafia wifom and nk speculation and the fact that there's a red check while flinging accusations my way. None of what you're saying is based on people's actual play and it's quite scummy.

Perhaps you should read the alive players' filters and decide who is mafia, it would be a lot more helpful and easier to determine whether you're just super misguided or not.


If I've been afk that long, my filter shouldn't be that hard to go through. I've pushed on onegu and shockey for a while now. When I called you town, it was a heat of the moment thing. I called you town in that exact moment because you were trying so hard but if you think about it, there's a chance that MiG decided to claim randomly instead of (what I was more leaning towards) him having gotten a claim ready since the beginning. You as scum partners with MiG fight really hard that day when you're red checked, then suddenly, the votes start turning onto MiG so he decides to claim. Otherwise, a lot of things I have started to think about have lead to you being scum over town. It's called reevaluation.


So what was his play as mafia on the spur of the moment? lynch gb and then gb flips cop and he sacrifices 2 mafia people for gb since the red check is revealed as true??


His play outted the jailer and town sentiment was to lynch you regardless.


No, actually. Town sentiment was overwhelmingly that I was town. I was the only one pushing that I should die purely for the information. So, knowing that I was town read and since you say that the sentiment was going to a Mig lynch. You are saying he claimed tracker on the spur of the moment to reveal the jk and lynch gb. If this was the case then he automatically undoes everything that I was doing the entire day and getting town read just to associate him with me? That was his plan? "hey my buddy hf is doing pretty well at getting town read, let's fuck him over!"

I don't think that's a thing that happens. You're also forgoing my d2 play where the entire day was me getting into a shit fight with GB because me and rsoultin were calling Mig mafia the entire day and Glowingbear was defending him the entire day:

+ Show Spoiler +

very likely Mig for doing his shitty switch. BF's post wasn't even bad and I'm pretty sure multiple people had the same reaction as me that it seemed pretty open and honest and Mig had a massive scum read on you (his second post was a case on you) but was very easily switched off of you onto BF



No, it's actually nothing to do with association. If you are town then Mig switched his vote onto a boxerfred whom was not awful looking while having a massive scum read on you all of the game for a really tedious reason. If you flip town it's still scummy because it causes the great confusion we are in today.


On June 21 2015 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
Shockey has been posting his entire thought process. I've been quizzing him endlessly, I'm still not even sure on him. Mig is nowhere in site, he had no reason to switch at all. Absolutely nowhere did he site the reasons "gb is playing and bf isn't even though bf said he couldn't play"

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
reading mig's filter makes him look worse than i remember him being in the thread

his first few posts pretty good but then the rest are so crappy and contentlessy it's hard to reconcile that with mig from last game it's also pretty damn bad looking that he makes his first giant case on gb being mafia and kind of never really follows it in the thread and then when gb comes up for lynch he complains about gb doing mafia things but then finds the shittest reason to switch to bf ever??????????

badddddd


Like I said previously, he said everything that you were doing was mafia orientated. My point still stands.

You are still intentionally prolonging this exchange because you know it's what you need to survive.



bla bla there's an endless list of me attacking mig and gb doing shit defences of him


Regardless, on another note you keep saying how you've "pushed" shockey and Onegu but outline how some of those people are easy mislynches if you're mafia. Why do you keep mentioning that like it's a point in your favour?


Actually HF this kinda brings a question to mind. I know you did push MIG d2 which isn't really alignment indicative to a point is a slight plus for you I think. However why did you believe migs claim over GB? Was it just a survival type deal to save yourself that day or did you think GB was the scummier of the two at that point? Just take me through your thought process here.

And also people, stop being lazy fucks and look at other people besides HF. There are 2 more mafia besides him, we won't lose the game if we lynch them before we decide if hf is mafia.... Like ignore the red check and look at other people for gods sake.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 18:07 GMT
#4424
Also its worth noting that the effort NHM is showing at this juncture makes me want to say hes town, the last time that he rolled scum and I was in the game with him he really just found someone he wantd to vote out and parked his vote and when it turned against him he showed up, but hes really pressuring hf here.

I think its a pretty good chance hes town still.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 18:10 GMT
#4425
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.

FId is confirmed town

I know i'm town obviously.

This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.

Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.

Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.

Shockey is sort of weird.

Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.

Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 18:41 GMT
#4430
On June 30 2015 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Also its worth noting that the effort NHM is showing at this juncture makes me want to say hes town, the last time that he rolled scum and I was in the game with him he really just found someone he wantd to vote out and parked his vote and when it turned against him he showed up, but hes really pressuring hf here.

I think its a pretty good chance hes town still.

On top of that Nydus also had a 4 page filter in 4 Days and he gotten 11 pages and was around like 9-10 area at End of Day 4


I don't think its exactly fair to compare filter lengths in the two gams, one is a bit longer than the other.

So, in your world it would be

Ruxxor, HF, Shockey and Oneg as the last scum candidates yea? Which one is town ls
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 19:00 GMT
#4433
But why does it have to be someone shot bugs instead of bug shot was blocked, we have the word of a mafia... I mean ti would be next level mafia play but if you think HF is on the team its something you have to consider at this point.
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