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On June 19 2015 11:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 11:44 Breshke wrote:On June 19 2015 11:28 rsoultin wrote:
my one just trust me read hahaha that isn't going to work so well but we will see how stuff turns out. What about damdred do you still have the same toneread? he's one of the players i particularly want to take another look at, because i think i may have been wrong on him. i'm actually doing schoolwork right now, but i'll flesh that out one way or another tonight if you're patient
Nah its fine I need to relook at him or maybe take my first look at him is better phrasing but I can wait I should probably do some more exam study anyway.
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On June 19 2015 12:16 LightningStrike wrote:Quoting my answer to make it easier for you to see since it was at the bottom of the page: Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:On June 19 2015 10:49 Breshke wrote:On June 19 2015 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:On June 19 2015 10:19 Breshke wrote:
LS are you still around? I want to talk about your claim a little more. I will be in about a half hour because I playing Liquidlegends.net inhouses atm but you can drop by the claim question stuff now if you want to talk about it. Yeah im just wondering why you unclaimed. Since the original reason for claiming was to get rid of pressure so isn't that pressure jsut going to come back? Also you claim was fairly safe since you hadn't been CC'd and you didnt have any abilities that you had to prove. This is like fringe stuff though so if you want to talk about your reads like ritoky said that is fine and probably better. Ya I people were still doubting my claim and still thought I was scum for it so I decided enough was enough and decided to just put it to rest.
Me sheeping rsouls most recent read makes me questioning you about any of your claim stuff redundent
Basically what it was going to amount to is I don't understand how you thought unclaiming would make the thing you dislike, being pressure, stop occurring.
I eagerly await your reads thingo though.
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Part of it is also LS being agreeable. Don't get me wrong im sure there are other reasons.
I'm fairly sure it is the same reason why bugs seems to not call me bad and what not because im shit at forming reads often so rely on others to point out stuff to get me going. Saying this makes me sound like I think im an expert on the guy but I think bugs likes it when people show they understand and agree with what he is saying. If you read witch and pay attention to our interactions you will hopefully get that feeling. So while you could be right rso based of an entire ONE GAME of meta i'd say it is easily a town bugs thing to do aswell
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On June 19 2015 13:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 12:52 Breshke wrote:
Part of it is also LS being agreeable. Don't get me wrong im sure there are other reasons.
I'm fairly sure it is the same reason why bugs seems to not call me bad and what not because im shit at forming reads often so rely on others to point out stuff to get me going. Saying this makes me sound like I think im an expert on the guy but I think bugs likes it when people show they understand and agree with what he is saying. If you read witch and pay attention to our interactions you will hopefully get that feeling. So while you could be right rso based of an entire ONE GAME of meta i'd say it is easily a town bugs thing to do aswell nh so basically my instincts are probably right that he likes ls cause ls agrees with him but this doesn't necessarily make him scum @.@ eh i don't have anything constructive to say about that i'm trying to do a vote analysis that is less vote analysis and more...vote+read analysis if you remember, bresh, that's how i came to the conclusion you were town in student v despite everyone scumreading you, and what they ultimately mislynched me for >< is why i'm asking ls to do different legwork. don't have the time for it all before EoN do you do similar analysis? i'd be interested to see what you thought, but if it's not your cup of tea, that's fine
This isn't what i meant to be honest. It is more like he has an affinity to like LS because their play styles can work better together. I think he gave a good reason why he though LS was town for the role claim so saying he only likes LS because LS agrees with him is selling it short.
I'm not sure what you mean to be honest but the votes don't really give me that much other than like if there is mafia voting on GB who is it? Like I can justify a town read on all those people other than VA. So either there is mafia in yamato/ritoky (im currently townreading ritoky) or mafia had a vested interest in getting BF lynched over GB.
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On June 19 2015 14:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I've revisited my case on Breshke and it has good logic but it's weak. I admit it.
Yet I have two problems with you Breshke, that I would like to understand:
1) You called me town on a game I was scum. You called me town again here. What is different from that game that made you feel comfotable enough on early game?
2) You only started being aggressive when LS blue claimed. Yet, last game you've cast your vote on me very fast to apply pressure. Can you explain to me why your gameplay is differing from that game? Why you only started scum hunting after like the first 3 quarters of day1?
I didn't consider your play last game when reading you this game.
Was I applying that much pressure last game? I seem to remember I kind of just voted you and piggy backed off of WBG's push. But yeah I find it easier to be more forceful in threads where there isnt as many experienced players. If you look at like any of the newbie games ive played in I think I play more aggressive/involved there.
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On June 19 2015 15:34 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 15:24 Breshke wrote:On June 19 2015 14:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I've revisited my case on Breshke and it has good logic but it's weak. I admit it.
Yet I have two problems with you Breshke, that I would like to understand:
1) You called me town on a game I was scum. You called me town again here. What is different from that game that made you feel comfotable enough on early game?
2) You only started being aggressive when LS blue claimed. Yet, last game you've cast your vote on me very fast to apply pressure. Can you explain to me why your gameplay is differing from that game? Why you only started scum hunting after like the first 3 quarters of day1? I didn't consider your play last game when reading you this game. Was I applying that much pressure last game? I seem to remember I kind of just voted you and piggy backed off of WBG's push. But yeah I find it easier to be more forceful in threads where there isnt as many experienced players. If you look at like any of the newbie games ive played in I think I play more aggressive/involved there. You voted more easily last game and you clearly showed what you did dislike there. I've seen you defending or at least deflecting pressures much more in this game than in that one. About number (1), I didn't actually implied that you should be comparing those games. But if you called me town there and I was scum, shouldn't you be more paranoid/cautious before giving me a town read?
When you say I have deflected pressure do you mean on myself or on others? Where have I done this? It also comes under the same thing that I felt more comfortable doing that last game there nothing else i can tell you about that.
Also yeah i know what you are trying to say but yeah I havn't been comparing you at all but I did think your early play was really townie. Like i could follow your reads so easily and it felt natural. So I was fine with townreading you then.
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I agree with you on like everything except the following.
Fidel - cos ya know
I probably think ritoky is more townie than you do because I understand his viewpoint when he wanted to lynch LS even though he thought LS might be town. It was more of a "town won't get past this if everyone doesn't agree he is town" kind of thing. Also iirc he was the first person to ping out mig and it was a really good pickup since I still think mig is scummy.
Obviously still disagree on GB and if you look at the votes like where all your town are it looks fairly bad. Maybe VA is mafia he is a coinflip but if he isn't I really think the GB wagon is all town and while it could happen with town GB i don't see why it would have.
I also have the filthiest of wifom on why yamato and GB could be mafia together but it's fairly bad so its kinda a meh thing and shouldn't/probably wouldn't change anyones read.
My lynch order is actually the same as yours except with Gb at the front.
I also really like your like non read yet town on nydus because i think im picking up on the same stuff
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So like it would make perfect sense for BM to confirm to play, see he rolled mafia with GB then just abort because of last game. This was the wifom thing i was talking about before.
Also rso you keep saying people keep telling you bugs is good and this is nitpicky as fuck but im fairly sure only LS has done that so I don't see why you keep harping on about it.
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On June 19 2015 23:04 rsoultin wrote:
Bugs keeps telling us he's good and he was the driving force behind both scum lynches in witch as I understand it?
So yes overall impression and unless you don't think he's good or thinks going after the players he did makes sense brush that is nitpicky as fuck XP
I think a lot of players are good rsoul i don't really get your point but that's might be because it is late. I'm just failing to udnesatdn where bugs saying he is good or other people saying bugs is good comes into your read.
Like you arn't seeing this "good" play so you think he is scum?
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On June 19 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote:
Lol that wifom is possible actually...I remember gb complaining about bm to me something awful when it was going down
Yeah it is possible but it is also not possible like i don't think it should affect anyones read but I felt like it needed to be out there
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On June 19 2015 23:21 rsoultin wrote:
I should explain better.
Mig read and ignoring him bugs me if mig is scum
Lots of finger pointing last night and sanding reads while giving nothing new himself and shot fights over nothing at all like with rit
He does that only pick one thing from a post shot i've seen mafia do a lot, the better ones
You really shouldnt use the term "bugs me" when talking about bugs it is really confusing haha
Ill take a look at bugs next phase remind me if i forget, ill probs be going to bed soon and i feel like ive been posting too much this night phase without doing very much.
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Nydus where are you, I wanna know what you got.
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On June 20 2015 09:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
nightkill means pussies are playing mafia, pretty useful to know
On June 20 2015 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
kinda reinforces the fact that GB is probably scum, he talks a lot in QT and has weird commitment issues on nightkills and actions. likes to second guess. A clear protection dodge on the nightkill.
Nah this is deffs a weird view point in my opinion because if you come to the conclusion that GB is scum like you did there was 3 players i would say were pushing him the hardest.
HF
Bugs
KSC
Bugs replaced out so why kill the replacement who is a newbie and called GB town.
KSC dead
And how do you know HF wasnt targeted by mafia and someone got a save or succesfully roleblocked mafia.
I don't really get your viewpoint VA
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On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL
Yes he did?
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On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL
So can you actually respond to it since he did vote GB
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On June 20 2015 12:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
im not even going to respond to that when KSC didnt even vote GB yesterday. just LOL
On June 20 2015 12:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
if you guys are gonna call me a lurker at least know what you're talking about eh? I actually read the game.
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Rit I agree shockey is scummy and I want to lynch him or Mig today if we arn't lynching GB
Can you explain why you don't want to lynch GB do you have him as town? Or do you just think shockey is scummier
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Town don't care about survival, mafia care about survival.
How can you say you see a good move from a survival standpoint but not a mafia standpoint when surviving is mafias wincon.
Could you make your next filter dive shockeyy please ruxxar.
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Im really caught up on why the vote would have gone down as it did if GB is also town.
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VA saying shit about the nightkills, me calling him out on being dumb, him ignoring me and calling out the nightkills for a different reason really makes me want to call him scum but I don't think that is actually scummy. Just meh
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