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On June 25 2015 07:05 Mig wrote: Hmmm, I really did think gb was mafia Yeah... no. | ||
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All I know is that last time I jumped votes with so little time to spare I made a huge mistake, because i was too naive. | ||
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Looking at incidents in isolation and using your gut feeling is *not* the right way to approach the game at this point. You seem to be grasping at straws to find arguments against me, instead of looking at my overarching play which should clearly show you that I'm town. I don't know bugs, so I'm not going to pretend I knew what his motivations was or interpret his play. Right now I want to focus my attention on finding and lynching scum, so that's what I'm going to do. First off: we are in a terrible position after having lynched 5 VTs, our detective *and* outed our jail keeper. Well fuck it, we can't turn back time, but there still time to turn things around. We need to focus our energy and consolidate so that we don't scatter ourselves all over the place. First up is lynching mig. If for some god forsaken reason you do not agree with this, let me know and ill order you a doctor. 2nd up is lynching HF. You can say there is a miller or a framer of whatever. The chances are so low that I'm not even willing to consider that possibility. A redcheck is a redcheck, and if you'd rather take the *low* chance of him being framed or miller, then you are not thinking rationally. He's dangerous and I want him dead. If we let him live and he's mafia, I have a feeling he's going to destroy us with his persuasion. After those 2 are dead, things get a bit more uncertain. VA was my next target but is now off the list. Onegu is still a very likely possibilty. Not sure who the 4th mafia could be yet, but we have plenty of time to figure that out. We need to stimulate everyone to participate in discussion so that we can gather as much information as possible. Don't be content with letting the lurkers get away with staying silent. I don't want to lynch people based off a coin flip. It's extremely important that we don't mislynch at this point. | ||
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On June 25 2015 11:19 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back and Mig actually fake claimed Tracker to get GB lynched -_- Well I think the best play is still lynch Mig but we have to ask ourselves this: Is HF scum or Town even though he got red checked? The reason for this question is because there is unaware Millers in the OP and there is a chance HF is the Unaware Miller so I want everyone's input on that. It's a possibility, but it's very low. Are you willing to take that risk? I'm not. | ||
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On June 25 2015 11:53 GlowingBear wrote: townies that mislynched me, know that I will send PM's to you each day, for 365 days after endgame, reminding you how bad you are. Mark my words. The North remembers. Sorry it ended this way GB. I really thought your play was brilliant. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 25 2015 06:56 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 3 Vote Count Holyflare (2): GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu Mig (3): ruXxar, rsoultin, Fidei86 Damdred (0): rsoultin (0): Not voted (2): ShoCkeyy, Damdred Clinging to the ledge, GlowingBear hangs over the abyss. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. Given that GB did the checks that he said he did, mafia would be desperate to get GB lynched, and would be all over voting for him. I find it highly likely that some of the mafia can be found here: GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu This supports the theory that onegu could be mafia. Day 1: I don't think that LS and Onegu are mafia together, judging from the way that Onegu tunneled LS *hard* day 1 and wanted him lynched. He even went so far as to be willing to lynch LS even if it meant losing the game, just to teach him a lesson. That's a mafia play. The rules says to play to win, and that was exactly what he was doing. On June 18 2015 23:40 Onegu wrote: I dont care if the claim is townie. Dont give 2 shits. LS needs to die so he learns a lesson for future games. I am still reading this huge ass thread... On June 18 2015 23:43 Onegu wrote: Dont give 2 shits once again. Dont care his alignment. I care about him stopping this. On June 18 2015 23:54 Onegu wrote: Also I will be honest I think LS is town. On June 19 2015 06:49 Onegu wrote: LS still needs to die. Dont worry I dont plan on being useless all game... On June 19 2015 23:04 Onegu wrote: again dont care if he is town either, want to lynch LS How much more anti-town can you get? Day 3: GB claims he got a redcheck on rsoul. On June 23 2015 12:56 GlowingBear wrote: I've got a red check on you, dear.  Onegu jumps at the chance of voting for rsoul: On June 23 2015 12:58 Onegu wrote: HAHAHAHAHA HEADSHOT!!!!! ##Vote Rsoultin No greater pleasure! And he was eager to accept the thought of fidei and rsoul being mafia On June 23 2015 13:04 Onegu wrote: So if this is true you have 3 scum. Fidei, rsoul, and mig right? Turns out GB was joking to get a reaction out of people. And he sure did get a reaction out of onegu. On June 23 2015 13:07 GlowingBear wrote: I'm kidding, just wanted some reactions from people online My red check is on holyflare THANK GOD YOU PRICK YOU PLAYED TOO MUCH WITH MY HEART Adding to that Onegu has barely done anything pro town the whole game. I find it likely that Onegu is mafia This is how my world aligns right now with the latest votes: Day 3 Vote Count Holyflare (2): GlowingBear, NydusHerMain GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu Mig (3): ruXxar, rsoultin, Fidei86 Not voted (2): ShoCkeyy, Damdred I'll look further into the people I'm unsure about. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + you realise that ruxxar was bugs right?????????????????? also you keep assuming i'm mafia which doesn't make any sense since i'm still just not mafia also if I wanted to at the time I could have just switched to mig when GB asked if i wanted to quite easily and gotten him lynched/collected credit/saved myself the trouble and why on earth would i not just do that and instead try harder to get myself lynched if mig's plan all along was to claim tracker and get gb lynched? seems like the worst plan in the history of ever to me + Show Spoiler + On June 25 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote: HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THIS LOLOOLOLOLOLOL "I see a red check when i'm not red and have scum read the player all game" "let's try and convince the person i'm not scum" i'm convincing everyone else that you ARE mafia after my flip because I WANT TO DIE SO THAT I CAN ENSURE THE FAKE COP DIES LOL spread more shit you fucker lie about onegu lie about mig's "towny plays" when i'm attacking mig as mafia lie about cop checks lie about scum reads lie lie lie lie lie that's all you've done all game From everything i've seen of your play. You basically hard defended mig all day and I don't know what alignment that makes him. Mig is very very very coin flippy at the moment. I would never lynch him over myself because the moment I die you are 100% fucked. FUCKED F-U-C-K-E-D also from the way things went down gb was absolutely a viable mislynch still at the end of n1 and the people going hardest against him were me and bugs, a bugs kill also perpetuates that situation See, here's my problem HF. You keep claiming you're not mafia, but any way I twist it, I can't make it fit. Here's what happened: - GB wanted to lynch you first to prove his alignment. You agreed that it was the right play. - Everything is going fine until mig out of nowhere claims tracker really late. Why? To get the lynch off you and onto GB. - For whatever reason VA decides to out himself(zzz) and suddenly it lends credence to the fact that GB might be lying. The core of this whole debacle is the motivation for mig claiming tracker, when in fact he almost 100% is not tracker now that we've seen GB flip. You agree that we should lynch mig, and that VA is the Jail keeper. The chance that mig is town fake claiming tracker to save you because he thought GB was lying is absurd. He should've just let you die and then we would've *known* for sure what alignments you both have. Like, why would he risk lynching the DT over a VT?! Makes absolutely no sense. If you can make sense of it to me, please let me know. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Gb asks if i want to switch to mig, that's 2 extra votes on mig and then 2 people not voting yet + I've been shitting town rainbows all game. Mig see's and claims tracker to survive. Not a very far stretch in the slightest? I clearly scum read gb and the tracker claim solidified it and i felt so happy that everything i wrote came true and then he flipped cop. GG. Best mafia play since cop dies and mig was definitely going to die anyway and now it spreads suspicion on me since everyone keeps saying hf and mig together based on absolutely no reasoning? Maybe you should read the last day again and see for yourself how scummy i thought gb was (was also very unlikely i was miller which hey, turns out i probably am) Let me break this down so everyone can follow my line of thinking. Here's what has to happen for you *NOT* to be scum: #1 You must dodge a redcheck + Show Spoiler + Either there is a framer in the game and you got framed. Here's what you said about framing: If you believe mig is mafia and GB didn't get rb'd or killed because they thought he was fake claiming, then they would never ever in their life frame me since GB is the only one that would ever check me. or There are miller(s) in the game and you are one of them. #2 The only reason mig had to claim was to save himself + Show Spoiler + Let's see why this doesn't make sense: Holyflare wrote: Gb asks if i want to switch to mig, that's 2 extra votes on mig and then 2 people not voting yet + I've been shitting town rainbows all game. Mig see's and claims tracker to survive. Not a very far stretch in the slightest? This is the timeline: On June 25 2015 05:30 GlowingBear wrote: Would you lynch mig? On June 25 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote: Mig is very very very coin flippy at the moment. I would never lynch him over myself because the moment I die you are 100% fucked. On June 25 2015 06:01 GlowingBear wrote: Now, townies, listen: CONSOLIDATE on HF. DO NOT GIVE SPACE TO MAFIA SO THEY CAN SHENANNIE ONTO WHOEVER THEY WANT. On June 25 2015 06:10 Mig wrote: Ok didnt want to have to do this, I am a tracker. According to this, he claimed after you *BOTH* said that you were not going to vote for mig, so this point doesn't hold water. #3 Mig claimed tracker without without believing it would succeed + Show Spoiler + So let's say mig planned to claim tracker, not because he wanted to save you, but because he had a shot at taking down GB. How in the world is anyone going to believe him when he's one of the prime suspects? If you are town, then he should be content to let you sit back and die, so he gets one more nights to perform actions. But let's say that you are town, and mig went for the claim anyway. There is *no way* he would do that if he didn't have faith that he could actually take GB down. This means that he needed support. He could *not* have expected VA to out himself. This means that there *has*to be mafia on this list. I'll never believe in this scenario, that there are NO mafioso on this list besides mig: GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu Now the rest of you can believe what you want. But I find it very unlikely that you aren't mafia HF. | ||
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On June 26 2015 03:05 rsoultin wrote: it's no offense to you, ruxx, really. i <3 you and i enjoyed coaching you. but you're just not a n1 kill unless the scum team is high or just like completely afk for when bugs gets replaced None taken :p I know I'm still a newbie, needing to up my game ^^. | ||
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I'll assume that rsoultin is right. | ||
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On June 26 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote: alright i'll try to explain this better the jailkeeper both protects their target from shots AND roleblocks them which means that if a shot doesn't go through scum CAN'T know if the jailkeeper SAVED their target or BLOCKED a scum member, UNLESS the scum member had a secondary action (say rolecop for the sake of this example) that also did not go through...it also could have gone through so they know that it was a save and not a block but essentially the scum member HAD to have a secondary action for mig to know who the jailkeeper targeted since he wasn't actually the tracker also that secondary role COULD NOT have been roleblocker, because it wouldn't have interfered with a scum block does that make sense? Let me try to understand: Mafia has 2 kp delivered by 2 seperate people. 1 Kp was not delivered because it was blocked by JK. For mafia to know *which* kp was blocked, 1 of the deliverers must've had a special role that did not go through. Did I get it right? | ||
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On June 26 2015 06:27 Mig wrote: What if rsoul and hf are mafia team mates and they argue non stop everyday to make sure nothing ever gets done? Long time no see mig. I hope you're sitting comfortable. Tomorrow is going to be a wild ride for you . | ||
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On June 26 2015 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote: because she was spamming the thread with annoying stuff, not sure why would i want to keep reading that LOLOLOLOLOL | ||
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##Vote mig | ||
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On June 26 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote: gg i'll be rooting for my town bros ^^ ggs, we'll fight for you! | ||
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If not read some of my arguments against both and reevaluate: mig 1 mig 2 mig 3 Holy flare Of course, read the arguments others have made as well and think through it. Think rationally and not emotionally. Emotions are easy to influence. After that, let's continue with discussion. To start off, I want everyone to give me their top mafia reads besides HF and mig. I want to hear from ALL of you. Mine is onegu as I've outlined here. I was a bit lazy yesterday so I don't have a 4th mafia suspect yet. I haven't looked into damdred, shockey and NHM yet, but I'll get to it before the end of this day. | ||
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