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On June 18 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel? ##unvote
##vote LightningStrike
I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not. so you still have no scum reads of your own. shocker.
It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell  The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out.
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On June 18 2015 02:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
Shockey is also pretty defensive (I wouldn't say super defensive) and doesn't really seem to be scum hunting.
That what I getting from his posts too a little and his list post doesn't seem to be as thoughtful as his list posts from his last game (Witchcraft III) and here his very first list post I think from what I remember from the game:
On June 09 2015 01:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2015 01:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 09 2015 01:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2015 00:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##vote wherebugsgo
Bugs posts in the beginning are trollish, but who knows just following the hype train from reading the thread atm. Anymore thoughts outside of Bugs opening? I've only gone through the opening, but Kickstart's and Breshke posts seem legit, Onegu is hiding to not get sniped first day. I'll sheep BM just cause I want to atm. It's the first day, hard to tell anything about anybody. Especially when there is other people who have yet to really post. Then there is the smurf, but he's been active so w.e I liked Kickstarts opening, very part of the game, he went ahead and started with some roleplay basically saying he's town which is why I quickly can say he's town (obviously it's still the beginning, the posting can get worse) and he went ahead and started questioning bugs cause of this: Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway I am kinda sad I didn't roll scum this game but you guys should elevate me to Greater Demon status cause that'll be baller
also if you guys could fill me in on who I should expect to suck this game and when I should be disappointed for someone sucking that would be great It's an opening post, but it's just so ugly for it being one of the first opening posts. Breshke - You can just tell he's playing a townie, then why all the questions that force others to really give their opinions of other players? Show nested quote +On June 09 2015 14:57 Breshke wrote:On June 09 2015 14:53 FreezingFoot wrote:
Onegu is much more a coin flip than anything. He should definetely not be lynched today.
I think LS is the same. He always is this passive regardless of alignment why is shockey not a coin flip as well then? Is he not new? I'm not new to these forums. I've definitely have played Mafia here before, but it's been a long time since then, so in a way I am new once again and I change my play style every game no matter what role. Then what's the point of continually playing when others have such a great read on you? This is why I started playing again, brings enjoyment. Onegu: He brings points, then leaves - hiding to not really get sniped. BM: I've played games with him before, always town. So I just rather sheep some one with more knowledge atm. This was my opening post, now I've explained myself about it because most of you instantly think scum if I don't. This post is w.e from LS: + Show Spoiler +I don't like it, why do you link so many previous games to make sure people know how you play as a townie or mafia? And the fact that Bugs asked you makes it strange. Especially when he can just dig around himself, theres a database thread with ctrl + f. Show nested quote +On June 09 2015 15:20 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 09 2015 15:06 Breshke wrote:
Actually foot never mind that's a shit question. Would be nice if shockey would come back to the thread Ok And Shockey, when you come back to the thread, I ask you catch up and tell who we should lynch I'm still going to stick to bugs, he's obviously angry about being called out so early into the game that he decides to leave instead, what kind of town motive is that? The google spreadsheet? It's ok, points as BM mafia because he's on an all out against bugs and LS even though they never had another interaction again after the game list above. If the train decides to lynch a lurker (stutters), I doubt he would pull so much attention to himself if he was mafia by just not posting.
idk if this counts as a list post or not but he came some of his reads and thoughts early on in this post that felt much more insightful than what he did this game in his first list post.
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On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something?
I mean flipping scum obviously -_-
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On June 18 2015 02:14 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something? Lightning + Shockey. They have a natural affinity for one another kappa
Can't tell if trolling in this post I know kappa is a twitch chat meme which is more likely indication of trolling people.
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On June 18 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something? I mean flipping scum obviously -_- that is what i mean aswell, it was a typo. what do you mean by he has a low chance of flipping scum.
Like I can see some of his posts being from town but there was some questionables posts mainly his list post it felt weird esp I gave a meta quote from his last game on his early reads and stuff and it seemed much more insightful and structure than his list post this game but keep in mind I only played with him once.
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On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target
Thoughts on Shockeyy so far?
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On June 18 2015 02:21 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:19 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:14 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 18 2015 02:13 KelsierSC wrote:
also LS what do you mean by shockey has a low chance of slipping scum? that makes no fucking sense when people, myself included have brought up scummy aspects about his play. and other people in town like nydus also agree. you think new players don't role scum or something? Lightning + Shockey. They have a natural affinity for one another kappa Can't tell if trolling in this post I know kappa is a twitch chat meme which is more likely indication of trolling people. It was a troll :< . Lightning and Shockey are electricity related >.>
Figures :O
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On June 18 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target Thoughts on Shockeyy so far? Later. If you're impatient read my filter
You think scum from what I read in your filter O_o
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On June 18 2015 02:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel? ##unvote
##vote LightningStrike
I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not. The first thing someone said about shockey is that he's not new he has 5 previous games in the database. You also give plenty of reasons to call him mafia so why are you waiting for other people before you do a push on him?? Are you saying your meta is wrong because if it's correct your read should be much stronger.
I don't have the best track record when it comes to reading newbies correctly  (See Newbie LX).
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On June 18 2015 02:25 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target Thoughts on Shockeyy so far? she already gave thoughts, are you just not reading the thread ?
It felt to long ago(I prob seen it before I took a nap) hence I prodded her.
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On June 18 2015 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel? ##unvote
##vote LightningStrike
I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not. The first thing someone said about shockey is that he's not new he has 5 previous games in the database. You also give plenty of reasons to call him mafia so why are you waiting for other people before you do a push on him?? Are you saying your meta is wrong because if it's correct your read should be much stronger. I don't have the best track record when it comes to reading newbies correctly (See Newbie LX). ok but he isn't a newbie
Not exactly a experience player either :O
Anyways this some people do think shockeyy might be scum I think maybe he is going to flip therefore I will vote him now until people tell me a better target.
##Vote: Shockeyy
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On June 18 2015 02:31 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:28 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target Thoughts on Shockeyy so far? Later. If you're impatient read my filter You think scum from what I read in your filter O_o Didn't like his list post, agree with damdy that town generally does the fuck off type posting though, so scumlean but not the most interesting person in the thread to me presently
Well I posted a quote that was listish post which was his first reads of the game what you think of it compared his list post this game?
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On June 18 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel? ##unvote
##vote LightningStrike
I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not. The first thing someone said about shockey is that he's not new he has 5 previous games in the database. You also give plenty of reasons to call him mafia so why are you waiting for other people before you do a push on him?? Are you saying your meta is wrong because if it's correct your read should be much stronger. I don't have the best track record when it comes to reading newbies correctly (See Newbie LX). he's not a newbie you poop read the first sentence again???
He still newish based on stuff I read on the database(5 games there plus 1 more so 6 total) :O
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On June 18 2015 02:35 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think 5 games counts as not a newbie does it? I mean this is only my third game but I'd still say I'm a newbie o.O.
He got 6 games under his belt he still newish though based on that.
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On June 18 2015 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:32 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly is BM doesn't post or vote he is most likely getting mod killed so he isn't worth being voted on honestly and I kinda dislike the rsoultin wagon she not the scum queen this game but rather town and I starting to think maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him but I prob go all in on him later nothing really change myself his list post seemed to much worse what he presented in his last game as town and it seems like maybe his tone had changed from game to game I feel? ##unvote
##vote LightningStrike
I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. He is my strongest scumread even though it's a bit weak but it better than nothing. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not. The first thing someone said about shockey is that he's not new he has 5 previous games in the database. You also give plenty of reasons to call him mafia so why are you waiting for other people before you do a push on him?? Are you saying your meta is wrong because if it's correct your read should be much stronger. I don't have the best track record when it comes to reading newbies correctly (See Newbie LX). ok but he isn't a newbie Not exactly a experience player either :O Anyways this some people do think shockeyy might be scum I think maybe he is going to flip therefore I will vote him now until people tell me a better target. ##Vote: Shockeyy ok why the change specifically to this since you went from the "he's okayish" "he has "a low chance to flip scum" and now you are voting him.
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On June 18 2015 02:38 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 02:32 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 01:48 KelsierSC wrote:
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##unvote
##vote LightningStrike
I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. He is my strongest scumread even though it's a bit weak but it better than nothing. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not. The first thing someone said about shockey is that he's not new he has 5 previous games in the database. You also give plenty of reasons to call him mafia so why are you waiting for other people before you do a push on him?? Are you saying your meta is wrong because if it's correct your read should be much stronger. I don't have the best track record when it comes to reading newbies correctly (See Newbie LX). ok but he isn't a newbie Not exactly a experience player either :O Anyways this some people do think shockeyy might be scum I think maybe he is going to flip therefore I will vote him now until people tell me a better target. ##Vote: Shockeyy ok why the change specifically to this since you went from the "he's okayish" "he has "a low chance to flip scum" and now you are voting him. He still my strongest scumread although weakish on meta but it better than nothing at this point. tell me why he wont flip scum?
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On June 18 2015 02:39 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:38 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 02:32 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:07 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:01 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:
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I not scum I sorry you can't read me town but maybe check my past games? <3 lol no Everything i wrote about you still stands, you keep trying to call everyone town, when I caught you for not reading shockeyy you come up with a "hmm maybe he doesn't look as good" backtrack. He is my strongest scumread even though it's a bit weak but it better than nothing. now you get pressed for a scum read and then you come up with this maybe Shockeyy has a chance of flipping scum although a lowish chance hence why I asking peoples opinions on him before I go all in on him where you basically hedge your bets on him like you know he is actually town or something. You say it is a lowish chance...why? also if it is a lowish chance why would you "go all in" on him as you call it. You are trying to be everyones buddy and call everyone town and the one time i push you to actually give a scum read you come out with waffly shit that your scum read is likely to be town anyway. I see him as a newer player which is also why I hesitant on actually commiting unless other people think's scum too because(Meta) in his last game(Witchcraft III) he gave much more structure and reasons for his reads than he did this game so far I wondering if it's alignment indicative or not. The first thing someone said about shockey is that he's not new he has 5 previous games in the database. You also give plenty of reasons to call him mafia so why are you waiting for other people before you do a push on him?? Are you saying your meta is wrong because if it's correct your read should be much stronger. I don't have the best track record when it comes to reading newbies correctly (See Newbie LX). ok but he isn't a newbie Not exactly a experience player either :O Anyways this some people do think shockeyy might be scum I think maybe he is going to flip therefore I will vote him now until people tell me a better target. ##Vote: Shockeyy ok why the change specifically to this since you went from the "he's okayish" "he has "a low chance to flip scum" and now you are voting him. that isn't an answer you need to actually go into why things changed so drastically not "i asked people's opinion"
I had hit post when I thought I typed my words out -_- I did a EBWOP on it.
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On June 18 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:34 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:31 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:28 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target Thoughts on Shockeyy so far? Later. If you're impatient read my filter You think scum from what I read in your filter O_o Didn't like his list post, agree with damdy that town generally does the fuck off type posting though, so scumlean but not the most interesting person in the thread to me presently Well I posted a quote that was listish post which was his first reads of the game what you think of it compared his list post this game? Dude i'm on my phone. You know i'm going to want to follow up in the thrwas that was posted in. This has to wait until I get home tonight
I can wait for you I guess just sheep me when you come back?
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Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games.
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On June 18 2015 02:42 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote + He still my strongest scumread although weakish on meta but it better than nothing at this point. tell me why he wont flip scum?
is that your response to me?
Correct.
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