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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 18:24 GMT
#4659
disputing dude -.- not disrupting
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 18:30 GMT
#4662
i don't care what other people are saying, just talk to me about things and i've made my case on you and if all you're going to say is "i do that as town" i'm not going to listen to a word you say because you've said that phrase so many times it boggles my mind, you even made those kind of posts in XXX "i only claim vt as town, i don't lie as mafia!" bla bla, it doesn't work anymore.

So, give me your scum reads and elaborate on why. You have to explain to me like I asked you to do before how LS suddenly makes his filter 8 times bigger than his normal mafia filters and why his reads are TMI instead of just being crazy tin foil reads etc etc. You didn't do it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 18:40 GMT
#4664
wtf so you thought mig was bussing your town read gb..............................................?

that also doesn't align with what you said at all previously
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 19:21 GMT
#4670
On July 01 2015 04:12 Fidei86 wrote:
I'll agree with HF on this, at least, if the afk-era don't come and say something constructive, we're 100% going to lose.


So you're just going to ignore everything I said and post even though you complained I wasn't doing anything.......? That's pretty insulting.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 19:22 GMT
#4671
On July 01 2015 03:57 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 03:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On July 01 2015 03:13 Onegu wrote:
On July 01 2015 03:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On July 01 2015 03:02 Onegu wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too.


no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu



Stop being bad. Lynch RuXxar or Shockky today. I am playing now so suck it. Also why does scum onegu not push you today?

Like HF can never read me. Since we were in newbies together.

@RuXxar Why do I need to defend myself at this point we are still 4 hours from lynch and I am not dieing. And like your only reason for scum reading me is I am not doing anything... Well guess what I am now so your arguement is void.

Damdred is being dumb/mafia because he knows for a fact I am willing to vote with my tunneled scum read as town.

Also ruXxar the point about you making people look worse, you did it with VA and me right as you came in the game.

Shockky because onegu rule. And also knowing my meta and thinking this is my scum play.



Lol onegu rule and b/s I don't know your meta, but you've obviously have done nothing this game. Even when we were mafia together in my first return game, you did more, you did more in my town game. In this game, you've pretty much have done nothing. There's a huge difference in how you've been playing and you should see the same with me, but you just call me mafia because you're mafia and I've outed you. I've given MANY reasons how you can be mafia and all you can say is "onegu rule".



Can you honestly say this game is like the game we were scum together in or the game we were town together in?


You played way better when we were town together, I also want you to answer the same question.
Can you honestly say this game is like the game we were scum together in or the game we were town together in?


Scum


that's not a real answer now onegu you know that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 19:40 GMT
#4676
On July 01 2015 04:34 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 04:21 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2015 04:12 Fidei86 wrote:
I'll agree with HF on this, at least, if the afk-era don't come and say something constructive, we're 100% going to lose.


So you're just going to ignore everything I said and post even though you complained I wasn't doing anything.......? That's pretty insulting.

This is getting tiresome. If you're mafia, you'll do anything to discredit me. If you're town, I can see that this would be frustrating for you, but getting mad at me isn't helping. I don't respect your push on Onegu. I think it's an attempt to push an easy mislynch.

When I was talking about policy lynching Onegu, I meant that he was ruining games by turning his alignment into a coin flip. I didn't mean you were ruining games.


This is absolutely pathetic. I'm not mafia. I AM town and you simply say useless shit like "oh you're not pushing anything today" and then I DO PUSH SOMETHING and you post more tripe uselessly discrediting ME because of a stupid red check that you don't even know is true or not with a 25% chance of me being the actual miller lol which is HUGE.

I have been pushing lynches all game, I have been pushing reads all game. You know what's frustrating? You telling me I haven't done enough and that's just flat out bull shit. It's not that I haven't done enough you just don't care what I do because you're going to stick to the red check like glue and be useless all game because of it. At least don't try and make a scenario where I waste my life continuing to post if you're just going to keep up this farce that you would do something different if I posted a lot more.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 19:43 GMT
#4677
On July 01 2015 04:38 Fidei86 wrote:
As I've said, I think that a confirmed red check is vastly more reliable than any of the other points people are making or have made so far this game. And no, you constantly posting that you're town does not make you town. Other people reading you town does not make you town. I can't say that any other way. I'd much rather lose the game on the off chance you are extremely unlucky than because we basically picked another vote out of the air.

I think Shockkey is very likely scum. He has spent basically his entire filter ripping on LS and defending himself. Highly unconvincing. Then again, that could just be how he plays. But if people won't lynch you, I'll have to follow my dead teacher and mentor in going on Shockey.


Guess who has also done that. Onegu.

Guess what makes shockeyy actually more likely to be town than onegu? His participation in the actual game and yes, while he is discrediting LS it looks like he believes what he is saying. Can you say the same thing for Onegu who is pushing ls for something that doesn't even make sense?

Shockeyy has posted lots of things in hidden url's in posts that I don't think he would do. On day 2 when GB was claiming cop shockey was constantly posting hidden things saying that if GB switched to him then GB is confirmed scum because GB read shockeyy as town all the cycle. Shockey has also got 6 times the filter size of his largest mafia game. Shockey does not have a red check on him but there is a vast expanse of information that makes Onegu likely mafia that you aren't even looking at because "he's a coin flip"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 19:44 GMT
#4680
Shockey has also been finding inconsistencies in people's posting that I haven't seen anyone else doing for the past 2 or 3 cycles, for instance his damdred posts when I posted my case, he looked at it and found out that damdred had flipped his read on shockeyy from calling him town to mafia for absolutely no reason whatsoever. He's actively remembering things and pointing them out. I can't say his mafia game looks anything like this game either.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 19:46 GMT
#4681
On July 01 2015 04:44 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2015 04:38 Fidei86 wrote:
As I've said, I think that a confirmed red check is vastly more reliable than any of the other points people are making or have made so far this game. And no, you constantly posting that you're town does not make you town. Other people reading you town does not make you town. I can't say that any other way. I'd much rather lose the game on the off chance you are extremely unlucky than because we basically picked another vote out of the air.

I think Shockkey is very likely scum. He has spent basically his entire filter ripping on LS and defending himself. Highly unconvincing. Then again, that could just be how he plays. But if people won't lynch you, I'll have to follow my dead teacher and mentor in going on Shockey.


Guess who has also done that. Onegu.

Guess what makes shockeyy actually more likely to be town than onegu? His participation in the actual game and yes, while he is discrediting LS it looks like he believes what he is saying. Can you say the same thing for Onegu who is pushing ls for something that doesn't even make sense?

Shockeyy has posted lots of things in hidden url's in posts that I don't think he would do. On day 2 when GB was claiming cop shockey was constantly posting hidden things saying that if GB switched to him then GB is confirmed scum because GB read shockeyy as town all the cycle. Shockey has also got 6 times the filter size of his largest mafia game. Shockey does not have a red check on him but there is a vast expanse of information that makes Onegu likely mafia that you aren't even looking at because "he's a coin flip"


Shockey's filter is six pages long. If his average filter length is one page, then either he gets MLed day 1 a lot, or he's a really bad played.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/111913-tl-mafia-xviii?user=ShoCkeyy

2 pages long in 6 CYCLES
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 19:52 GMT
#4682
On July 01 2015 04:43 Fidei86 wrote:
I don't think you're an idiot, HF. I think you're actually very smart. I've been told that you're an aspiring lawyer (or possibly a lawyer already?). Anyway, as a smart guy (and as a town person), you would recognise that this bickering between us is not helping town at all. I'm kind of ashamed for having participated in it myself. And you know that your words towards me are not convincing me that you're not scum. So why keep posting?


Because, I care a very great deal about this game. This is one of my only hobbies outside work that I can sink my time into. I don't want to lose after playing not so great because of some silly person saying that they believe a red check over something else because of statistics. I despise people that use statistics. Blazinghand uses statistics almost every game and he is one of the most useless players on the site and I look down on him for it because it isn't playing the game of mafia at all. I am heavily emotionally invested in being right and not being mislynched. I've been mislynched once ever as town and I didn't like it and it was because I was afk and didn't fight back. I tried to avoid it secretly on day 3 even if I knew I kind of had to be lynched to prove GB was a fake cop, I still deep down didn't want to die.

I don't like that you are actively throwing the game, perhaps because you are new and lost or perhaps because you just don't actually care about this game enough. I do. So please don't ruin this game for me because you are being stubborn. At least put some ACTUAL work into the game instead of behaving like a douche to me. I know it's an argument that's being useless perpetuated but I will do anything to convince you of my actual alignment. You should read my past games, please? At the very least read my filter and make your own judgement.

I strongly believe that Onegu is a far better lynch from my 30 games of experience. I just told him to post about the game and he actively just didn't do it. He doesn't really know what's going on and my case on him was actually just great.

I hate people afking and I normally carry the game myself but this game is just impossible because of this fucking red check, it's infuriating. I don't like not being listened to at all. Really really do not like it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:01 GMT
#4683
Even now, where he says i'm lying and that he wasn't playing a game of dota and he was here and going to actively play and win the game. What's he actually doing? Nothing.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Instead he's actually in a game of dota again. Playing, waiting on the shockeyy mislynch to happen and afking.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:05 GMT
#4684
Also you say that players are deflecting off of me so we're probably mafia together. You'll find out post game/in later games that that almost never happens. Mafia hate to associate with each other like that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:07 GMT
#4685
On November 12 2014 20:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 16:04 Holyflare wrote:
On November 12 2014 15:15 geript wrote:
HF is really easy to tell as town because of the difference in how and why he pushes. I hope other people pick up on this.


I feel that way too, like I'm pushing really obviously not scummy things as mafia and sticking to it

You kinda do. But more importantly you did not give a single fuck in LYLO/MYLO/whatever. At that point it was really really obvious that you were scum.

That's the second mafia win handed to you by ritoky - you should make a thread thanking him instead of apologizing to Obi.


^ i mean that's the most accurate meta so far for me i think if you don't trust what i'm saying, you can check to back it up for yourself
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:08 GMT
#4686
please people, stop afking :'(
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:30 GMT
#4689
k ruxxar is probably town then after all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:32 GMT
#4694
On July 01 2015 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too?

I sheeping the dead plus rux's case pretty much summed what I had thought of you throughout the game. If you're town I sorry that you get lynched but if you're scum at least I can still win since I'm Town.


you should be lynching onegu with me
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:34 GMT
#4695
On July 01 2015 05:32 Onegu wrote:
##Unvote

##Vote HF


He isnt this bad...


and when are you this awful?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:37 GMT
#4705
I know you can be awful and do nothing as town yeh, but you at least have logical reasons why people are mafia when you do post. Such as Koshi being mafia in horns, making plays in guardians and maybe dragging it on too long but using it for info and stuff. Last game you were actually making decent posts and pleading to be town read.

What are you doing now? OMGUSing absolutely everyone. You haven't made a single accusation that isn't surface level shit. You scum read shockeyy but when he asks you a legit question on why you think he's mafia when he's playing totally different all you did was call him scum (I've read his games and they are totally different). You've thrown out countless town reads and then done nothing with it, you lynched your cop town read purely because he had an LS green check in a game where there can be both a framer and a godfather and then you said it was for consolidation but now you've completely changed your reasoning to be that you thought the mig claim was believable. You aren't being consistent with what you say and it's extremely disingenuous play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:43 GMT
#4719
On July 01 2015 05:39 Onegu wrote:
Not guardians, but Carnival.


because the mafia gave themselves away with a shit vote count
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2015 20:45 GMT
#4721
On July 01 2015 05:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 05:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On July 01 2015 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 01 2015 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too?

I sheeping the dead plus rux's case pretty much summed what I had thought of you throughout the game. If you're town I sorry that you get lynched but if you're scum at least I can still win since I'm Town.


So you're following others because you can't form your own opinion? Good job. Now I know to never play with you again. Thanks, you're terrible at this game unless you're mafia, then you're not that bad by playing dumb the whole game.

I had already you were Mafia beforehand? Look rux pretty much summed up what I had said about you and sometimes I look at the dead for reasons why they could be NK'd since it's LYLO and we didn't have a clear lynch. Ofc they all had scumread you the night they died I know it's WIFOM but it all matches up to you.


Dude you posted reasons for shockeyy not to be mafia a million times about how his past games were completely different and you've just afk'd the entire game basically and sheeped other people's opinions. Did you even read my case on onegu just now? YOu KNOW how awful it is to sheep dead people too and if you did want to do that all of the dead people in this game said that onegu could be mafia.
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