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On June 25 2015 08:54 rsoultin wrote: your theory basically hinges on mafia either knowing or strongly fearing that you're miller and being too scared to find ONE MORE TOWNIE to mislynch who wasn't gb that they're gonna save you that's an amazing theory hf lol >< no the claim was almost definitely to save himself, i don't know the exact motivation but i'm pretty sure your picture of what the game was like is incredibly wrong since the vote count before the claim was On June 25 2015 06:32 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 3 Vote Count Holyflare (4): GlowingBear (3): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare Mig (3): ruXxar, rsoultin, Fidei86 Damdred (0): rsoultin (0): Not voted (2): ShoCkeyy, Damdred Clinging to the ledge, Holyflare hangs over the abyss. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. mig was definitely going to get lynched at this point based on everyone's responses | ||
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Not voted (2): ShoCkeyy, Damdred if one of those is town then they could have definitely switched to mig too since the 2 confirmed town are on that wagon and i was fighting hard all day | ||
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well i'm town so no idea what to tell you | ||
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On June 25 2015 13:22 rsoultin wrote: mmm the problem with the ruxx thing is while i have no fucking clue why RUXX would be the nk with ksc...i'm not sure why a mafia mig would mention bugs to try to draw out a medic claim if that slot is scum... like the only way they could know that it was a stopped shot vs. a save is if the ruxx slot was some sort of mafia role that could be interfered with. the only ones i'm seeing there are: rolecop, mafia vig (which almost seems like too much mafia kp with no apparent town kp), and framer of those, rolecop makes the most sense i think, but that's neither here nor there so now i'm kinda at that...is it more likely that ruxx is a mafia pr whose secondary action was stopped and mafia is hoping we assume that this gets him "cleared" so are willing to risk him too? (not completely out there given jk SHOULD be the last blue, and i don't believe bullets are refunded anyway) or more likely that mafia just decides to shoot ruxxar over..a town hf, or myself, or ritoky softing, etc. etc. n1 ...i dunnae i really find a ruxxar nk highly unbelievable, frankly you realise that ruxxar was bugs right?????????????????? also you keep assuming i'm mafia which doesn't make any sense since i'm still just not mafia also if I wanted to at the time I could have just switched to mig when GB asked if i wanted to quite easily and gotten him lynched/collected credit/saved myself the trouble and why on earth would i not just do that and instead try harder to get myself lynched if mig's plan all along was to claim tracker and get gb lynched? seems like the worst plan in the history of ever to me + Show Spoiler + On June 25 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote: HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THIS LOLOOLOLOLOLOL "I see a red check when i'm not red and have scum read the player all game" "let's try and convince the person i'm not scum" i'm convincing everyone else that you ARE mafia after my flip because I WANT TO DIE SO THAT I CAN ENSURE THE FAKE COP DIES LOL spread more shit you fucker lie about onegu lie about mig's "towny plays" when i'm attacking mig as mafia lie about cop checks lie about scum reads lie lie lie lie lie that's all you've done all game From everything i've seen of your play. You basically hard defended mig all day and I don't know what alignment that makes him. Mig is very very very coin flippy at the moment. I would never lynch him over myself because the moment I die you are 100% fucked. FUCKED F-U-C-K-E-D also from the way things went down gb was absolutely a viable mislynch still at the end of n1 and the people going hardest against him were me and bugs, a bugs kill also perpetuates that situation | ||
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On June 25 2015 21:15 rsoultin wrote: No shit ruxx was bugs. Glad you're reading my whole post and actually care what I say and making arguments for it ^^ I cut out all the irrelevant wifom where you assume all the mafia are tied together through one play like some kind of shitty idiot team and instead picked the really likely obvious option. You know since mafia mig changed last second to save gb to clearly spread irrelevant suspicion it's no far reach to assume the nk's were for the same reason. | ||
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On June 25 2015 22:54 ruXxar wrote: On June 25 2015 14:13 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + you realise that ruxxar was bugs right?????????????????? also you keep assuming i'm mafia which doesn't make any sense since i'm still just not mafia also if I wanted to at the time I could have just switched to mig when GB asked if i wanted to quite easily and gotten him lynched/collected credit/saved myself the trouble and why on earth would i not just do that and instead try harder to get myself lynched if mig's plan all along was to claim tracker and get gb lynched? seems like the worst plan in the history of ever to me + Show Spoiler + On June 25 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote: HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THIS LOLOOLOLOLOLOL "I see a red check when i'm not red and have scum read the player all game" "let's try and convince the person i'm not scum" i'm convincing everyone else that you ARE mafia after my flip because I WANT TO DIE SO THAT I CAN ENSURE THE FAKE COP DIES LOL spread more shit you fucker lie about onegu lie about mig's "towny plays" when i'm attacking mig as mafia lie about cop checks lie about scum reads lie lie lie lie lie that's all you've done all game From everything i've seen of your play. You basically hard defended mig all day and I don't know what alignment that makes him. Mig is very very very coin flippy at the moment. I would never lynch him over myself because the moment I die you are 100% fucked. FUCKED F-U-C-K-E-D also from the way things went down gb was absolutely a viable mislynch still at the end of n1 and the people going hardest against him were me and bugs, a bugs kill also perpetuates that situation See, here's my problem HF. You keep claiming you're not mafia, but any way I twist it, I can't make it fit. Here's what happened: - GB wanted to lynch you first to prove his alignment. You agreed that it was the right play. - Everything is going fine until mig out of nowhere claims tracker really late. Why? To get the lynch off you and onto GB. - For whatever reason VA decides to out himself(zzz) and suddenly it lends credence to the fact that GB might be lying. The core of this whole debacle is the motivation for mig claiming tracker, when in fact he almost 100% is not tracker now that we've seen GB flip. You agree that we should lynch mig, and that VA is the Jail keeper. The chance that mig is town fake claiming tracker to save you because he thought GB was lying is absurd. He should've just let you die and then we would've *known* for sure what alignments you both have. Like, why would he risk lynching the DT over a VT?! Makes absolutely no sense. If you can make sense of it to me, please let me know. Gb asks if i want to switch to mig, that's 2 extra votes on mig and then 2 people not voting yet + I've been shitting town rainbows all game. Mig see's and claims tracker to survive. Not a very far stretch in the slightest? I clearly scum read gb and the tracker claim solidified it and i felt so happy that everything i wrote came true and then he flipped cop. GG. Best mafia play since cop dies and mig was definitely going to die anyway and now it spreads suspicion on me since everyone keeps saying hf and mig together based on absolutely no reasoning? Maybe you should read the last day again and see for yourself how scummy i thought gb was (was also very unlikely i was miller which hey, turns out i probably am) | ||
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It is a fine setup and it's usually 1-2 less roles for mafia so probably frame or gf + roleblock or whatever and mig's flip will give us a lot more info hopefully | ||
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On June 26 2015 03:01 rsoultin wrote: read the part on ruxx nyd if mig is scum he 100% knew WHICH of the two ends of the exchange (who was saved vs. who was doing the killing) was the one actually jailed. he can't possibly know that unless the one doing the killing had a secondary action that either WAS or WAS NOT interfered with so that he could narrow it down to ruxx from there it's just how realistic is a NIGHT ONE RUXXAR night kill I think you don't understand the word logic lol, if 2 people deliver kp and one of them goes through have a guess how you know who was saved. You don't need a power role to know that's a huge leap in confirmation bias. Mafia member x shoots town bugs = save Oh noes bugs must have been saved! Your wifom is crazy. Obviously a n1 ruxxar kill is not unlikely if the jailkeeper thought he was towny enough to save and like i said, the wifom argument i posed is far more realistic. | ||
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Duh. | ||
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Most of you are wasting your time on this  | ||
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Shit afk mafia team mate delivers kp to wherebugsgo. Wherebugsgo does not die. Shit mafia team mate is never in a million years getting jailkeepered. Case fucking closed. You can cry about my comprehension being shit all you want but the simple fact is you think that mafia got their towniest player to deliver the kp and risk getting rb'd which doesn't make a single bit of sense. | ||
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You keep saying shit like ruxxar was scum read and he isn't towny but totally ignore bugs. Bugs is who you should focus on. Nobody else. Ruxxar made no posts. | ||
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Who is their towniest player n1 likely to get saved? Please you actually don't think anything you write through and then just fling shit back at people that don't see it your wrong way. VA is jk he thought bugs was the person to save therefore bugs was towny. End of discussion. None of this makes any sense anyway because i don't think ruxxar is mafia and I'm not mafia and you keep making teams with both of us in it. So, shape up and find a better, correct team. | ||
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