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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 15:49 GMT
#3590
anyone wanna talk to me about stuff?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 15:56 GMT
#3591
On June 19 2015 14:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, caught up.

I don't think scum LS, after risking fake claiming, would rescind at night and cause all that ruckus and draw so much attention to him. Pretty suicidal Mafia play. Unless he is GF/being framed and wants to draw a check/track in him? This is pretty wifom and I'll keep the Occam's razor.


Rsoultin looks top townie to me for the way she is approaching the game. She has no reason to defend me as scum rsoultin.

I've been liking Breshke's approach in this night phase. Sounds like someone who is genuinely trying to solve the game. I will review my case on him after I take a shower.

Kelsier is town
Onegu is town
Ritoky still looks town

Damdred dropped too much, should keep an eye on him.

We need to revisit Nydus. I forgot everything from this guy.

Shockey is probably Mafia. If Mig is Mafia, bugs is also.
VA is a coinflip

I need to read Fidei

I don't know about Holyflare. Too tunneled on me and some misrepresentations are things that I don't expect on his usual superb town play.

Am I forgetting someone?


by the way this quote is 10 pages before the day 2 start where GB "checked" LS. Right after calling LS towny? I really really don't think so anymore
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 15:57 GMT
#3592
On June 19 2015 14:52 GlowingBear wrote:

Kelsier
Ritoky
Onegu
Rsoultin

LS <------------------------------
Breshke

Damdred
Nydus
Holyflare
Fidei
VA
Yamato

Bugs
Mig
Shockey


This is basically where I'm at atm
Bolded townreads are not in order. The rest is more or less in order from less scum to most scum.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 15:57 GMT
#3593
On June 20 2015 00:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not a teacher, I'm not lunching possible town LS to teach him a lesson

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:09 GMT
#3594
Honestly, I don't see a world where GB is NOT mafia. It ties in pretty nicely with my scum reads too. I questioned him repeatedly on why he didn't re-evaluate Onegu after he found out he wasn't a mason and he never actually responded

On June 21 2015 04:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 07:16 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 20 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote:
eh he's done it before as town and ksc already negated it?

plus he said he wasn't and he was in the same post so

kinda...late to the ballgame there gb xP


Why would he hidden it?

I didn't bring it to surface to avoid them getting shot. But I thought that it was Onegu that claimed. That's why I flipped my read on him.


You DID NOT flip your read on him. You scum read him for ages after. I literally just fucking proved that in that list i quoted. Regardless of that it TOTALLY circumvents everything else because point 2 is far more damning. You aren't thinking about this game at all if you think that I claimed masons and there's only 1 night kill but still question whether i'm mafia or not

rofl

On June 21 2015 04:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 12:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 17 2015 12:42 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Probs Mafia

  • Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
  • boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread)

boxerfred


How do you have onegu as scum for that reason? It sounds like you're saying that he was scum read for not claiming VT so he didn't need to claim VT? So why shouldn't he claim VT if he's being scumread in other games for not claiming it?

Also, if you think he prefers playing scum, don't you think he'd be posting a bit more than just "gosh darnit I'm VT" ?


I meant that his need to claim VT right away felt like he was trying to gain towncred (as he was scumread for not claiming VT in another game), and this need to gain towncred fits better a mafia perspective than town perspective in my opinion.

Actually, I decided to go re-read his filter and I've got another impression on his opening. It felt... bored. Meh. Breshke is right, my read on Onegu is weak.

Rescinding the scumread now.


and you literally lied about this if you thought onegu had claimed mason

On June 21 2015 04:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 15:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 15:16 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 15:16 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 15:14 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 15:06 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:58 ritoky wrote:
GB, any semblance of a read on VA? cuz he is kinda toward the middle of your ranking rather than "I DONT FUCKIN KNOW" territory.


I can't read VA
I don't trust any of his reads. I don't see an actual attempt to solve the game in his filter.

But him being in the middle is because I have some kind very faint town read on people in the bottom.


Which would mean you have at least a town lean on everyone else not on the list right? So what happened to this guy to make you read him town?

On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Actual Listpost v1.0


Probs town
  • Holyflare (not posting + ninja vote on Bill Murray isn't a thing I see scumFlare comfortable at doing)
  • Damdred (tone reading, looks like town, fluid posts)
  • NydusHerMain(? need to keep an eye on him because when he got universally townread he stopped caring and just
  • came back to comment on posts that cited him, which is mafia indicative)
  • Kelsier (? need to keep an eye on him because he oddly tried to disrupt town while throwing suspicions on LS without actually trying to convince thread with strong arguments)
  • ritoky (trolled but jumped on rsoultin as a clear reaction to thread direction, not a strong read but could me town
  • Breshke (thinking critically about the game)
  • LS (a lot of activity early game, enough to grant him a day1 pass IMO)


Null
  • rsoultin (not caring for her today)
  • Bill Murray (could lynch pls)
  • Bugs (some of his approach looks scummy, some others look townie - in other words, I like that he pushes rsoultin but I dislike his unawareness of the rest of the thread - last game he was reacting to mostly everything but here he is tunneling rsoultin, which is a very easy behaviour for scum to adopt)
  • Fidei (meh)
  • Mig (who?)


Probs Mafia

  • Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
[*]boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread)
boxerfred


On June 17 2015 13:47 GlowingBear wrote:
My Day1 PoE lynchlist (from most preferred to least preferred target)


- Bill Murray
- boxerfred
- ShoCkeyy
- VayneAuthority
- Fidei86
- Mig
- Onegu




On June 17 2015 23:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 17 2015 23:54 Onegu wrote:
GB and NHM town


: )))))

##Vote: Onegu

What about the Onegu rule you are so excited with, that got scum twice in the latest two games you played?


I've reevaluated him later, he looks like town Onegu.


Why does he look like town onegu?


Lazy, inactive, genuinely upset that he rolled VT.


and lied about this since he can't be genuinely upset about being a vt if you think he's a mason and the fact that you had him in your shitty poe list

etc etc etc

plz lie more

You voted for onegu today and I took that into account with my post. You even quoted that post that had the exact line "if you really did mistake it for onegu that's bull shit because he was in your poe list still and you scum read him for ages after that". He still remained in your poe list after you "reevaluated" him. It also further shows that you were not paying attention to the game but instead skimming it to make up reads on people. You can't possibly have missed that discussion in the thread and if you did you can't have missed the fact that onegu's reply was to me, why else would you see it in a quote unless you were trying to focus on it?

On June 21 2015 06:50 Holyflare wrote:
So. Is it not weird that gb admitted to making up a town read on onegu and onegu has done nothing since but gb doesn't added him to his scum list now he's "realised" onegu wasn't a mason?

On June 22 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
So you scum read onegu day 1 for his play and MADE UP reasons to town read him because of the mason claim. He was your main scum read and pretty much strongest one, at the time. Now he is no longer a mason you ignore that and say there are better people to scum read but you end up scum reading my town read nydus, town holyflare who was very likely shot and afkers over him?

On June 22 2015 02:53 Holyflare wrote:
Yes. It's day 2. Your original scum read onegu has done absolutely nothing the entirety of the game. You just find out you were wrong about the mason claim so all your original points still stand + all extra shit all he did carries into today.

Onegu features nowhere in any of your reads at any point in this day other than to say you thought he was mason.

I'm shot every game n1 and every game I'm alive day 2 you question why I'm alive. Why are you acting as if that's not the case? You know it's extremely likely i got protected.

On June 22 2015 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 05:16 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, this Onegu lock on LS and his suspicions on ruXXar without taking a second look at the wagons makes him look VEEEERY bad.


areeeeeeeeeeeeee youuuuuuuuuuuuu fuckinggggggggg kidddingggg meeeeeeeeeee


then he conveniently starts to put mafia incentives on onegu VERY VERY WEAKLY after criticising me the entire day for SCUM READING ONEGU and then he checks me!??!?! loooooool
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:10 GMT
#3595
btw it's kinda bm that i took a day off just to help you guys solve the game and you afk on me!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:19 GMT
#3596
if gb's green check on mig was fake and he was intentionally antagonising me then his thought process at the start of the day would be:

"yeh gotta make this fake check believable by lying about everything"
"oh hf is attacking me for this thought process, he must be mafia let's check him!" <--------- all of my what
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:24 GMT
#3598
no but i will very likely flip vt
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:24 GMT
#3600
i really utterly doubt i'll flip miller at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:25 GMT
#3601
it's not even a sick play since you were getting lynched and purposefully made yourself scummy by trying to stick to a fake plan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:27 GMT
#3602
but this doesn't matter, they'll see my flip and go straight for you

btw to everyone else, if he ever ever ever claims that i must be framed, do NOT believe that bull shit
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:28 GMT
#3604
On June 25 2015 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
but this doesn't matter, they'll see my flip and go straight for you

btw to everyone else, if he ever ever ever claims that i must be framed, do NOT believe that bull shit

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:28 GMT
#3605
i do have to convince people because historically people are idiots
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:30 GMT
#3608
there's also a possibility that you role copped me since you thought i was playing day 1 to survive and saw i was miller and in that case people have to just evaluate you based on information (not checked with hts if millers show on cop checks though)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:31 GMT
#3609
On June 25 2015 01:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2015 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
but this doesn't matter, they'll see my flip and go straight for you

btw to everyone else, if he ever ever ever claims that i must be framed, do NOT believe that bull shit


I will never claim that, since I even told people that I scumread Onegu at night so he could be framed instead of you


well you're going to have to soon, your judgement day is looming very near
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:31 GMT
#3610
like gb what are you doing right now anyway? nothing? i'm trying to thought dump everything and you're posting random shit to distract me from it which you've done THE ENTIRE GAME

ask me questions do actual things and stop being shit if you are the cop?????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:36 GMT
#3612
lol this is the one day where you can get confirmed town holyflare's thoughts in the thread who you should all respect and adore and bounce ideas back and forth with me (at least i will be confirmed soon) and all you guys do is try and shit fight with me or post useless stuff that has no relevance to anyone else's alignments ^^
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:44 GMT
#3615
On June 25 2015 01:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2015 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
like gb what are you doing right now anyway? nothing? i'm trying to thought dump everything and you're posting random shit to distract me from it which you've done THE ENTIRE GAME

ask me questions do actual things and stop being shit if you are the cop?????


I'm cop. I'm town. You are wasting time trying to convince people I am not since nobody is that stupid.

So, work only under the scenario I'm cop.

Ok, so questions:

Who is Mafia?

Isn't mig 100% Mafia since my check went through at night and I'm not dead?

What do you think of VA voting me without even reading the thread?

What do you make of Onegu jumping so quickly on the fake red check on Rsoultin but having a hard time to jump on yours/still doubting LS's green check?


I just made a giant post that said who mafia was??? If you are cop which I think is unlikely then it's Damdred/Onegu/VA/Mig <--- possibly not really evaluated all of the team together too much and it's subject to change

Mig is NOT 100% mafia because like I already said, your check on me is bs since I'm a VT. If you are a cop in this hypothetical situation then Mig could also be godfather or framed on that night and not kill you or block you so you look bad for not being killed or blocked later on in the game and having extra checks while framing the people you are most suspicious of, the medic/jk/banisher could have also protected the person that rb's, there might not even BE a rb'er, it could be a mafia vig and the shot got blocked. Framer/Vig/GF or Framer/Vig/rolecop or framer/rolecop/gf anything. Independently from the check he might well be mafia yes, but likely with you, I posted about it all day yesterday WHICH YOU SHUT DOWN FOR NO REASON LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

There's so so so many hypotheticals which is why you lynch me today since mig is NOT confirmed mafia no matter what anybody says. I've seen so many fucked up plays because of mafia action wifom that I will not accept it.

wtf am i supposed to think about a guy that doesn't post anything

I already told you yesterday onegu was likely mafia and it's also in my big post WHICH YOU SHUT DOWN AGAIN..........................................
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:47 GMT
#3616
The only person i'm more fluctuating about is Ruxxar since he's not really done anything since he said he was catching up and has been afk since. I think bugs was extremely towny though (explained before - thought processes all backed up etc, pushing you) so I'm willing to let it slide. Don't let him get away with it all game though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 24 2015 16:47 GMT
#3617
On June 25 2015 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
The only person i'm more fluctuating about is Ruxxar since he's not really done anything since he said he was catching up and has been afk since. I think bugs was extremely towny though (explained before - thought processes all backed up etc, pushing you) so I'm willing to let it slide. Don't let him get away with it all game though.


^ not the only reason though, I think it's quite disingenuous to miss out key things in people's filters if you're using that as your sole metric to catch up you'd look at it with a fine tooth comb
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