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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 19 2015 19:33 GMT
#2561
GB with an interesting point.

GB do you think the amount of effort bugs has given is congruent with his normal town game? I've only glanced at his scum games but this does seem a bit extreme from what I read so far level of effort etc. If he's scim
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 19 2015 20:03 GMT
#2562
On June 20 2015 04:33 Damdred wrote:
GB with an interesting point.

GB do you think the amount of effort bugs has given is congruent with his normal town game? I've only glanced at his scum games but this does seem a bit extreme from what I read so far level of effort etc. If he's scim


You meant he isn't effortful in his scum games?

I've played only one game with him and I never searched for his previous games
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 19 2015 20:04 GMT
#2563
By the way I've decided HF is Mafia. He can't be this biased as town
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 19 2015 20:18 GMT
#2564
On June 20 2015 04:33 Damdred wrote:
GB with an interesting point.

GB do you think the amount of effort bugs has given is congruent with his normal town game? I've only glanced at his scum games but this does seem a bit extreme from what I read so far level of effort etc. If he's scim


daaaaamdddddyyyyyy

-flops on-

i made a giant damdy-style post!

(the tldr is probably easier though lol)

ksc also did analysis from both town gb and scum gb voting perspectives

those prob would be good to read i think? since they should have most of the relevant stuff already in the thread?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 19 2015 20:19 GMT
#2565
Holyflare, if you saw this post:

On June 20 2015 00:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 20 2015 00:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
This might be my last post unfortunately

Tomorrow when I am not around lynch GB, when he flips scum lynch Shockeyy. If he miraculously somehow doesn't flip scum then consider players like Onegu, rsoultin, and yamato, because if we had 2 town wagons yesterday scum are likely to be the ones who were lurkish or those who didn't really have scum reads


Not a single mention on Mig, who raised suspicions on me but did not vote me.
But Shockey? Oh, he IS Mafia. LOLOLOLOL

Bugs, pls


Actually it's a little weird you constantly point out Mig, can't tell if that's because you are trying to associate or disassociate.

But yes I forgot about him, if you flip scum he's probably scum too since he said he would vote you but didn't


You can never give this opinion:

On June 20 2015 03:31 Holyflare wrote:
bugs reaction to mig is also congruent with his attitude that has been explained multiple times this game of "not needing to talk about his town reads" or whatever it is he keeps saying

I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 19 2015 20:22 GMT
#2566
bugs really has been ignoring mig

which is definitely odd given his scumread on gb, and the fact that they apparently know each other well

that's a genuinely fair point, hf

mrt i have to drive back to san antonio again today @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 19 2015 20:26 GMT
#2567
I'll check out both when I have a moment.

Driving now ten reading that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 19 2015 20:29 GMT
#2568
On June 20 2015 05:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflare, if you saw this post:

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 00:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 20 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 20 2015 00:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
This might be my last post unfortunately

Tomorrow when I am not around lynch GB, when he flips scum lynch Shockeyy. If he miraculously somehow doesn't flip scum then consider players like Onegu, rsoultin, and yamato, because if we had 2 town wagons yesterday scum are likely to be the ones who were lurkish or those who didn't really have scum reads


Not a single mention on Mig, who raised suspicions on me but did not vote me.
But Shockey? Oh, he IS Mafia. LOLOLOLOL

Bugs, pls


Actually it's a little weird you constantly point out Mig, can't tell if that's because you are trying to associate or disassociate.

But yes I forgot about him, if you flip scum he's probably scum too since he said he would vote you but didn't


You can never give this opinion:

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 03:31 Holyflare wrote:
bugs reaction to mig is also congruent with his attitude that has been explained multiple times this game of "not needing to talk about his town reads" or whatever it is he keeps saying



Yes it's odd THIS night but you have been saying that it's weird ALL GAME. He town read mig all game and has been saying all game that he doesn't want to talk about town reads. There is 0 confirmation bias in this statement.

He's been towny all game and i don't think that one point you bring up changes that. Also no idea why he replaced out so that could equally explain it, especially when his one leaving post was so shit.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 19 2015 20:30 GMT
#2569
it was shit dnt read
Zerg for Life
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 19 2015 20:47 GMT
#2570
On June 20 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 05:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflare, if you saw this post:

On June 20 2015 00:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 20 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 20 2015 00:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
This might be my last post unfortunately

Tomorrow when I am not around lynch GB, when he flips scum lynch Shockeyy. If he miraculously somehow doesn't flip scum then consider players like Onegu, rsoultin, and yamato, because if we had 2 town wagons yesterday scum are likely to be the ones who were lurkish or those who didn't really have scum reads


Not a single mention on Mig, who raised suspicions on me but did not vote me.
But Shockey? Oh, he IS Mafia. LOLOLOLOL

Bugs, pls


Actually it's a little weird you constantly point out Mig, can't tell if that's because you are trying to associate or disassociate.

But yes I forgot about him, if you flip scum he's probably scum too since he said he would vote you but didn't


You can never give this opinion:

On June 20 2015 03:31 Holyflare wrote:
bugs reaction to mig is also congruent with his attitude that has been explained multiple times this game of "not needing to talk about his town reads" or whatever it is he keeps saying



Yes it's odd THIS night but you have been saying that it's weird ALL GAME. He town read mig all game and has been saying all game that he doesn't want to talk about town reads. There is 0 confirmation bias in this statement.

He's been towny all game and i don't think that one point you bring up changes that. Also no idea why he replaced out so that could equally explain it, especially when his one leaving post was so shit.


This is exactly what confirmation bias is. I bring evidence and you say it doesn't matter because he was townie throughout all game, disregarding the evidence.

Anyway, we can deal with bugs slot later because I have a stronger read on mig. Would you lynch mig with me?
I'm adorable.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 19 2015 20:58 GMT
#2571
Since this thread was so huge, I decided that reading all of it would take too long for me to get productive, so instead I focus on trying to put together a read on Glowingbear, and realized that it was also damn long.

Anyway, I went through GBs filter and this is my analysis of his filter:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pro town:

Open and fearless in his comments, very active.
Gives out frequent reads.
Stimulates Discussion
Extensive reads list with reasons
Losing temper, defending himself with passion, wanting to discuss reads.
Put together a good meta read on bugs with passion behind it.
Making a case on breshke.
Wants to clear his name, by being willing to answer any questions.
Starts putting together reads again post 1
Willing to reconsider his own viewpoint

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pro mafia:

Reads without substance.
Large fluff to substance ratio.
Claims damdred is town without reason
Votes bill murray without reason
Tries to push a no lynch on rsoultin and bugs without reason
Argues for common policy to not lynch the largest filter which is rsoultin
Wants to lynch bill murray again, still haven't seen a reason why.
Flip floppity voting in quick succession without reason: post 1 post 2 post 3
Again using filter length as a reason for no lynch this time on kelsier.
Lynch list with a lot of new names without any Reasoning
Weak reason for wanting to lynch shockey.
Completely loses Temper, a weak way to convince people.
Gives up trying to defend himself: post 1 post 2
Uses biggest filter excuse again to defend
himself. And again
Biggest scumread is breshke which he made a case on, but wants to lynch boxerfred and shockey without reason

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Conclusion:

Seems like a person that likes to babble a lot and not put much thought into what he says.
Unstable temper, aggressive tone.
A ton of the posts are just fluff and 1 liners.
A lot of reads without reasons, often names that wasn't even on his radar before.
Some highlights in between.

Might just be a talkative person, but I think the way he exposed himself made him an easy target, but maybe its just his nature.
I don't like how wishy washy he is with his reads and all the fluff.

However day 1 judging of people is hard because there is a lack of information.
Throwing things out and getting people defensive and talking is an important job as town.

The most compelling townie sign for me was the emotion he showed in his responses. It seemed very genuine that he was offended of being accused of being mafia.

I liked the progression from day 1 to day 2, less babbling more constructive discussion.
I would like him to keep going with the progression so far and contribute with constructive dialogue.

Slight townlean for now.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 19 2015 21:14 GMT
#2572
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17nEr1Bjun0YvdD41fcfgBKK4Xefz5AMI_CTTIp_IHmg/edit
Here is my document of my reads feel free to comment on them in this thread.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 19 2015 21:17 GMT
#2573
On June 20 2015 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17nEr1Bjun0YvdD41fcfgBKK4Xefz5AMI_CTTIp_IHmg/edit
Here is my document of my reads feel free to comment on them in this thread.


I think you should share your thoughts here in this thread, so that they will be available for posterity.
If you put your reads somewhere else you can change them at any moment.
There's a reason the no edit rule is implemented.

I don't even...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 19 2015 21:19 GMT
#2574
On June 20 2015 06:17 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17nEr1Bjun0YvdD41fcfgBKK4Xefz5AMI_CTTIp_IHmg/edit
Here is my document of my reads feel free to comment on them in this thread.


I think you should share your thoughts here in this thread, so that they will be available for posterity.
If you put your reads somewhere else you can change them at any moment.
There's a reason the no edit rule is implemented.

I don't even...


gotta agree with the new guy from the norselands
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 19 2015 21:20 GMT
#2575
NVM on it I can't copy/paste stuff from there easily....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 19 2015 21:24 GMT
#2576
wtf is thisn i need permission fuckyou
Zerg for Life
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 19 2015 21:24 GMT
#2577
-faceplams-

can you like

tldr it in a jiffy?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 19 2015 21:26 GMT
#2578
On June 20 2015 06:24 rsoultin wrote:
-faceplams-

can you like

tldr it in a jiffy?


best thing if you want his reads is just to read what bugs wrote hehehehe
Zerg for Life
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 19 2015 21:28 GMT
#2579
On June 20 2015 06:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 06:24 rsoultin wrote:
-faceplams-

can you like

tldr it in a jiffy?


best thing if you want his reads is just to read what bugs wrote hehehehe


rofl you're becoming one of my favorite people, you know that?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 19 2015 21:28 GMT
#2580
Town List:
Bugs slot: Bugs was pressuring people a ton this entire game and had very genuine reactions and very similar play to how played in Witchcraft III and over town games that I had shared in the thread.

GB: Meta he doesn’t normally post a ton as scum, he actually voted to save himself, plus he makes bad cases too as town.

rsoultin: Not scum queen plus she been pressuring me and some people and trying to work with others but she doesn’t seem to give townreads for free as much as she does as scum according to Damdred. Plus she was very blunt about how I am Town this game and knows me much better outside of the game than any other player in the game. <3 Tina!

KSC: Despite him being a dick to me all game he been trying to push the thread the direction and trying to get stuff done which he doesn’t do as scum.

ritoky: Been mostly carefree this game although a bit dickish to me and he even admited and actually revisting my filter to see me outside of my claim.

Breshke: He been commenting everywhere and been talking to me more after my claim and unclaim stuff and trying to get a deeper understanding of me.

Nydus: I like his early stuff we kinda mindmeld for a few points but I don’t like his attitude towards the Night Phase.

Damdred: I had seen Damdred be not so motivated as town before and made the mistake of lynching him for not being motivated. His content seems okay but he should post more and get motivated!

Null List:
Yamato77: Not much in filter and didn’t vote either just need more content from him.

VA:Known to be extremely lazy as both alignment would be the perfect policy lynch.

Onegu: Would rather policy me than anything and his filter been meh could be scum for how bad his filter but knowing him it just might be icky town.

Fidei86: Small filter and his content has been icky from looking his filter as I making this document. Would like him to post more.
Scum List:
Mig: Very small filter and if I wrong any town read it most likely him because some of his EoD stuff is extremely weird but I had liked his content early on when he first started posting.

HF: If I wrong on another town read of mine it would be him he is very capable of doing the stuff in his filter as scum but otherwise I do think he’s town but at the same time I been fooled by him in the past.

Shockeyy: I initially scumread him because some of his posts seemed forced and his list being meh and a very small filter too. I gave him a benefit of a doubt at EoD till he did a very weird swap form GB who he scumread to Boxerfred and his reasoning for it is pretty bad.
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