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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 16:38 GMT
#1385
Also, I will probably be sleeping at deadline as it is at midnight for me and I he got a job now /brag.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 17:20 GMT
#1394
On June 17 2015 01:47 Kickstart wrote:I read through Rels 'case' on me as he asked where he says I promised something, I don't see it.


'cause you didn't read carefully.

On June 13 2015 05:37 Kickstart wrote:
[...]
Seems the idea of a bats lynch is gathering steam. I actually thought his posting was weird but I have only played with him in 1 other game to go off of. I'll reread his filter at some point before EoD and see if I still get that impression.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 17:24 GMT
#1395
On June 17 2015 01:43 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 01:38 Rels wrote:
Also, I will probably be sleeping at deadline as it is at midnight for me and I he got a job now /brag.


Congratulations !!

TY (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 17:33 GMT
#1396
On June 17 2015 01:47 Kickstart wrote:
Case on me is awful and those pushing it look bad for it. Your case is that I was gone so I can back and went with thread sentiment because no one was on the lynches I thought were scum and that makes me scum? And then when that guy came in and posted a lot I took my vote off of him (like most others) and put it onto scum, which happens to be who I pegged as scum from early on? Yeah, nice case, not.
I proposed cop check if you were actually worried about me, but still your only points are that I was afk and then came back to the thread, which is fucking awful as it is in no way alignment indicative. I read through Rels 'case' on me as he asked where he says I promised something, I don't see it. Only thing I see is that I said I would look at sulfurus filter, and I did, and he is scummy.
Don't think this wagon warrants much of a defense as it is literally 'Kickstart was afk, came back and went with thread sentiment because he wasn't up to date'. Which is dumb. I have pushed who I thought were scummy, better yet my suspicions and scum reads have remained relatively similar now with perhaps Oats on my list too. This poor attempt at a wagon on me and Trfel and Rels has me concerned but I'll see what else they do as I don't want to omgus people to death.

Yes, to repeat your words, I find that "Kickstart was afk, came back and went with thread sentiment because he wasn't up to date" is enough to be suspicious of you. But that's not all.

Yesterday you spent 9 posts in 6 hours and didn't say anything useful. I explain that here.

On June 16 2015 16:37 Rels wrote:
Yeah I agree AFK != scum. But since his post saying he came back to the thread:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 08:07 Kickstart wrote:
Ill be a misslynch guys, if you are that concerned wait for a cop check or something. Should just lynch sulfurus like you were supposed to day 1.

##Unvote
##Vote Sulfuras

And his last post of the day:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 14:37 Kickstart wrote:
I tend to agree with your reads. Ive been suspicious of ruxx and sulf from the start and theyve not done much to change that. Like I said ruxxars posting is a bit odd so I'm not entirely sure but I would say they are my strongest scum reads. I think Oats play has been suspicious for reasons I pointed out already. I pointed it now but I also pointed it out way early in Day1 because he was doing it then too. Kept asking everyone "Can we just lynch _______?" which I think is weird because it seems like he has had no concern over who the vote is on, ever. Rels was scummy but then he wrote a dissertation so he seems alright for now. Of the veterans I would only be willing to lynch Oats probably, I think we got at least 2 scum in the new players :D. After sulfurus then ruxxar I would have to look at scotts and moosy's filters. Off the top of my head I am more suspicious of scott but that is probably just because he has scum read me and moosy hasnt so I probably need to take a closer look at them both to see how they stand on reads apart from me.

That said it's late and I'm going to sleep~

He posted 9 posts in 6 hours. If he wanted he had the time to explain his thought process, and didn't.
It's not like he just posted one post and left. He posted things over 6 hours and didn't explain shit or scumhunt or analyze shit.

Really. His reason for voting me was:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 07:17 Kickstart wrote:
[...]
Hate to just come in and agree with thread sentiment but rels is scummy as well. Tbh I just skimmed through most of the EoD and the night stuff though.

And his reason for unvoting me was, 6 hours after the unvote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 14:37 Kickstart wrote:
[...]
Rels was scummy but then he wrote a dissertation so he seems alright for now.
[...]



And finally, Trfel's point about the cop check is super damning.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 17:47 GMT
#1400
On June 17 2015 02:40 Kickstart wrote:
Alright then lynch me. When I flip green you can be in as useless a place as I said you would be. I ask you to consider what shape town is in if I flip green because I know the answer but it seems you either a) aren't considering it or b) don't care. Both of which are weird. Also I did give some reads earlier on who I thought was scummy and who I would lynch/not lynch. They may not be detailed or as in depth as you would usually expect from me but we've been over the reasons for that, you do what you wish with the information. Anyways really got to go now , just been getting ready. I expect to be back in under 2 hours or so.

Alright. I'm not considering a town with you flipping green 'cause I think you're going to flip red.

If you're really town and gave up on defending, at least leave a last will post like noobking did.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 17:56 GMT
#1403
scott I don't understang your last two posts. Are you making a case on Oats ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 17:59 GMT
#1404
On June 17 2015 02:54 scott31337 wrote:
Rels can you elaborate on your post that is like the others now that you are not tired?

I have not idea what "that is like the others" mean but I suppose you want me to expand on Oats.

Sorry I have almost nothing to say. I learned yesterday than doing cases on nullish people is useless. His filter has no analysis but good questions and observations. But he doesn't commit to much. So he's team lean to me. Would not lynch him over a lot of people, but would lynch him over hard town reads like Trfel.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 18:08 GMT
#1407
On June 17 2015 03:04 Damdred wrote:
So here's the deal, I don't think Ks is going to flip scum. Its mostly a gut feeling and how dickish/non surviving he's playing atm.

I expect more but yeah think he will flip town

Yeah this last post seemed very much like a townie giving up ...
But at the same time, a mafia could do exactly that to appear like a townie giving up. So I suppose it's WIFOM.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 19:54 GMT
#1456
I can see why everybody is starting to switch. This post screams townie.

On June 17 2015 04:34 Kickstart wrote:
I'm here but going to forumulate a big ass post in typical Kickstart fashion because if town is going to be bad and let this lynch on me happen I can at least try to give something so you won't be in a useless spot after the lynch like you would be if it happened right now. Give me some time it takes me awhile to make these big posts, will try and keep up with the thread as I'm working on it.


But what's happening right now seems like mafia doing a last minute switch, especially at a time when the two people doing cases on kickstart (Trfel and me) said they weren't going to be around for deadline.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 19:55 GMT
#1459
Cant post much since I'm with my GF.

The only people I'll agree to switch is scott. Sulfu is town and ruxxar is an easy mislynch I feel.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:20 GMT
#1484
On June 17 2015 05:00 Damdred wrote:
I thought rels was town though.

But that post just is weird to me anytime someone calls someone an easy mislynch or town for no reason bothers mr

It's because I felt all day that if mafia tried a switch, it would be on ruxxar. Lots of people yesterday and today kept mentionning how they would be OK lynching him. The thread sentiment is against him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:23 GMT
#1485
On June 17 2015 05:20 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Sulfurus's post basically reveals that he would have only lynched Kickstart if everyone else was going to. This basically shows that he's only willing to vote on wagons and never by himself. This correlates to the rest of his play which is disturbing because Mafia generally wishes to follow easy wagons.


This is Extremely false:

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:04 Sulfurus wrote:
If it wasn't clear I would lynch trfel and I shouldn't have ignored him just for voting bats.

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:
K I just realized that Oats is scummy.
##Vote: Oatsmaster


I'm also getting tired of your bandwagon argument in every post you make.
Do you have anything new to come up with?

Why don't you let him defend himself.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:25 GMT
#1487
On June 17 2015 05:18 scott31337 wrote:
Oatsmaster could be mafia


Says he's VT in the first post (which is bad anyway, narrows down the blues) and then defends himself about his VT claim saying "Have you seen it done before?" (BTW, Onegu has done it before in XXX I believe)
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2015 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
Hi friends.

A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.

aaaaaaaaaaaaand I don't like Oats for now! (kidding, mostly)

##Vote: Oatsmaster


why would you do this.
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:
I'm going to make a quick and easy how to play town guide:

  1. don't claim your role
  2. find exactly 1 person who you think is mafia
  3. say why this 1 person is mafia
  4. do not form reads based on unflipped associations e.g. player X AND player Y could be mafia together because Z.

1. Im vt.
2. Bats is mafia.
3. Chezinu rule.

##vote Bats


On June 13 2015 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 21:55 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 21:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you dont want to convince me or Trfel?

Ok bats, quote 5 posts you think will help town lynch mafia.
So that does not include fluff and defensive posts.



I am actively trying to convince you and would be delighted if Trfel joined in. Trfel at the very least is scuming me for recent things. You, noob, and rux just didn't like my opening.


Im sure you read the most recent Ver game where he caught at least one mafia because of a bad opening post.

Tell me, why did you vote for the vt claim?
You think that mafia somehow claims vt in one of the first few posts? Have you see that happen before?



Switches his read on Bats fairly easily, doesn't mention the reason for switching to geript - bails
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 14 2015 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im going to sleep.
Lynch geript.



Wants to go after Moosy now, even though he only mentions a joke post about him and nothing else
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 14 2015 09:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let's get moosy tmr


On June 13 2015 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 01:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:05 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 01:01 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 00:49 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 12 2015 22:54 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm going to sheep geript now he was making sense about moose.

##unvote
##vote moosygoosy

So you're voting along with scum? Interesting.


I thought what he said was pretty reasonable. If I were mafia I would have gone after moose's post.

So now we base reads on what mafia was supposed to do and didnt?

Dont like that at all.
Dont like that you peaced out and dont care about the game either. You came back here and did nothing but defend yourself. You didnt scumhunt, you didnt advance the thread.

Geript too btw.

I kinda think noob is town because he just keeps on giving advice even after people tell him to stop.


I don't feel like there's anything I need to defend against.

But yeah I do like the idea of basing reads off of what mafia should and shouldn't do. That's why I'm voting moosegoose.

And what exactly did I do to show I'm Mafia? I admit my first post was dumb of me but that was because I'm generally more of a passive poster.

Besides, if you want to go along with basing reads off of what Mafia should and shouldn't do, shouldn't YOU be thinking of geript right now? He makes a post about how Mafia should act, leaves the thread after being accused of Mafia, and then does nothing to defend himself.


You didn't do anything. It's what your scum mates did, or rather didn't do (push you).

LOL
So you're not even assuming the same thing Geript apparently did?
Geript at least seemed to assume Moosy was town shitposting at first which would make scum jump on for an easy mislynch, but you think he's scum and ALSO think scum would bus him right off the bat?

That's fucking horrible.

Dude, wtf would the Mafias do that for. Shouldn't they try and help each other?

LOL this post. Oh man. I would feel so silly if moose is mafia.



Throws out lynching me with no explanation - I and others ask about it but never replies - what happened to Moosy?
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 14 2015 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
I quite like lynching Scot.



Meta reason for calling Damdred scum - still doesn't explain the reasoning on me
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 14 2015 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Damdred didn't call me town, he's scum.
Also that completely pointless list post that has more townreads than scum reads.

Sulph / damdred mafia.

Scott also maybe.



Goes back to Damdred without reason except for the above?
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it.
What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good.
or damdred.




Conclusions -

Oats asks a lot of questions without followup
Follows the bandwagon of the thread until KS wants to be lynched
Shit reasons for wanting to lynch me and Damdred
Unsure what direction he wants to go if he's town
Oats could be mafia.

OK so your case basically is:
1. Oats is not commiting to reads or pushes..
2. Oats talks a lot but doesn't analyse anything.
3. Oats switched without giving reasons.

Mm. I would not lynched over kickstart. But I would lynched over ruxxar.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:27 GMT
#1488
Fuck I cant leave the thread when it's like that. Guess I'm gonna be super tired tomorrow. ><
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:41 GMT
#1492
OK taking 2 minutes thinking about Kickstart, I still think he's mafia.

I admit this post screams townie and made me rethink.
On June 17 2015 04:34 Kickstart wrote:
I'm here but going to forumulate a big ass post in typical Kickstart fashion because if town is going to be bad and let this lynch on me happen I can at least try to give something so you won't be in a useless spot after the lynch like you would be if it happened right now. Give me some time it takes me awhile to make these big posts, will try and keep up with the thread as I'm working on it.


But still, all the cases on him are still true. His vote process on me then on Sulfu was opportunistic, he didn't scumhunt at all except a super long case 6 hours into the game on ruxxar, he afk and posted excuses a few times, he had weird stances on the cop thing.

Sorry Kickstart if you are town, but coming with townie posts promising analysis 2 hours before deadline is not enough for me. I see that you are working on a last will post, so if you're town and that's not a ruse to make us switch, that's cool.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:43 GMT
#1493
On June 17 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:
Fuck I cant leave the thread when it's like that. Guess I'm gonna be super tired tomorrow. ><


I've only gotten 5 hours combined sleep the last 2 days :/
I don't recommend it at all.

I know that feeling!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:53 GMT
#1499
On June 17 2015 05:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
I just want to say to everyone that I'm a very passive person in real life.
Playing mafia makes me feel so bad because I have to treat a lot of people like shit -_-.
It feels very wrong.

I hope you don't take anything I say personally moosy.

Offense taken. My goal is to take you down in this game no matter what.

What. You want to create a bad town atmosphere ? You re not willing to re evaluate all game ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 20:58 GMT
#1503
On June 17 2015 05:55 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:43 Rels wrote:
On June 17 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:
On June 17 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:
Fuck I cant leave the thread when it's like that. Guess I'm gonna be super tired tomorrow. ><


I've only gotten 5 hours combined sleep the last 2 days :/
I don't recommend it at all.

I know that feeling!


Mafia is actually making it worse.

My head is automatically overflowing with thoughts trying to see connections, reasonings and flaws in peoples arguments.
Trying to put together alignments.

I just can't put it down and I end lying in bed with my phone next to me, refreshing the last page waiting for a new post.. which never comes.

It's even starting to influence my work, taking over my whole daily life basically.
I don't know how I feel about that, but somehow it feels great to be 100% engaged in something for once.

Dude that post is super cool. I know that feeling too. I spent my whole day yesterday just thinking about the game and posting things. It's really not the same watching a game and playing it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 21:00 GMT
#1505
On June 17 2015 05:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 05:53 Rels wrote:
On June 17 2015 05:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 17 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
I just want to say to everyone that I'm a very passive person in real life.
Playing mafia makes me feel so bad because I have to treat a lot of people like shit -_-.
It feels very wrong.

I hope you don't take anything I say personally moosy.

Offense taken. My goal is to take you down in this game no matter what.

What. You want to create a bad town atmosphere ? You re not willing to re evaluate all game ?

I'll re-evaluate but I won't consider ruXxar seriously. Feel free to talk or ask me questions and I'll answer.

Do you feel insulted by ruxxar's posts ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2015 21:13 GMT
#1514
Yes Sulfu not voting KS is so weird, when he said he was suspecting KS.
If Sulfu and KS are mafia, it's weird that KS is voting Sulfu.
If Sulfu mafia and KS town, it's weird that Sulfu is not voting KS.
If Sulfu town and KS whatever, it's weird that Sulfu is not voting KS when he thinks he mafia.

Sulfu can you explain your thought process I don't get it.
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