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On June 16 2015 07:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 07:27 Damdred wrote:On June 16 2015 07:22 Rels wrote:On June 16 2015 07:17 Damdred wrote:On June 16 2015 07:14 Rels wrote:On June 16 2015 07:11 Damdred wrote: Why is bring wrong a negative exactly? It doesn't by itself. I just don't want to forget that the only cases you made were wrong. Doesn't make you mafia. Don you think,generally town is usually more often wrong than scum? I think it's easy for mafia to make good looking cases on townie, starting from a simple contradiction and blowing it out of proportion. Itsactually much,much harder as mafia to,contribute in the same way as town. I read an amazing post at one point that explained why being scum is difficult. Its much more psychologically draining than most people think. Dunno about forum mafia, but I enjoy being werewolf IRL. Maybe that's different in forum games where you have to keep your lies in your mind for several days in a row.
Well in forum mafia having to keep reads in order for 2 weeks sometimes drains you
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Sure got busy at work.
Super large bulky posts with little activity besides that. Has good posts on rel, has the lynch ready to be pushed through. Instead of pushing counterwagon jumps off instantly on bats slip case on Geript. Someone who trfel had previously scum read. Start of today immediately was like bats case good sheep. Keeps mentioning worried about me without actually doing anything. Ie basically is soft pushing. Lack of scum hunting reliance on huge posts most won't read. Looks like trfel is doing lots when,isn't.~
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Because he's probably the God father and wants to be cop checked.
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On June 16 2015 08:13 WaveofShadow wrote:Ok found it. Show nested quote +What is the mafia incentive for pushing Rels hard at times, and at other times going with other wagons? That's a lousy way to go about a bus, and if I'm scum and Rels is town, why would I keep jumping around between flipped town geript, likely town batsnacks, and assumed town Rels?
Given the lackluster way geript was playing, I was suspicious of him. I didn't want to lynch him for that alone, though, because of the weekend and because of the potential risk. However, when batsnacks caught what I thought was a scumslip, this new information convinced me to lynch geript. If I didn't re-evaluate based on new information, that would be more telling. Ultimately I think there are other people doing similar things that looks worse. When Trfel does post I have generally been liking it. You know him pretty well though, yes? there anything specifically meta-related here? Im curious.
Activity is a measurement (small part). Hoe the push happens and what is done with it.
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On June 16 2015 08:16 Kickstart wrote: More than you are able to say.
I'm about to vote you for doing nothing and contributing to a lazy town. What are you going to do
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Oats is just normally useless.
Anyway I'd be ok with lynching ks
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On June 16 2015 08:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 08:03 Damdred wrote: Sure got busy at work.
Super large bulky posts with little activity besides that. Has good posts on rel, has the lynch ready to be pushed through. Instead of pushing counterwagon jumps off instantly on bats slip case on Geript. Someone who trfel had previously scum read. Start of today immediately was like bats case good sheep. Keeps mentioning worried about me without actually doing anything. Ie basically is soft pushing. Lack of scum hunting reliance on huge posts most won't read. Looks like trfel is doing lots when,isn't.~
Have you bothered to look at the order in which these events happened. Batsnacks' play was getting more towny before he caught geript in the supposed scumslip. Furthermore, the fact that he pointed this out was a pretty big indicator that he was town, also showing that he used Bat Traps (was talking with scott31337 about this in hidden text that this is an indicator of him being town that was previously missing. As for long posts, give me a break. If people don't want to read my posts, then they don't deserve to hear what I have to say... I've taken care to make them readable, and there's no reason why spreading my thoughts over several posts is any better than using a single post. Admittedly my play is more sporadic than normal, and this is because I'm home from college now. Family takes precedence over mafia games. This is the second mafia game I've played in the month and a half since I came home, and the first one was on a smurf (I smurfed in an attempt to not play to the same activity and standard that I normally do). While back at school, I had the freedom to play whenever I wanted. If you want to lynch me, come up with some actual reasons, please.
Several of then are very real reasons that are pretty good.
You should stop slow pushing me because it's crummy. I came out with what was bothering me, you still have this weird stance on me.
Now talk to me like I'm dumb town etc. Etc.
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Ks keeps promising activity only,comes back with,I'm town.
It looks bad and is bad
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Though if I'm to be honest, it's just good fun scum reading trfel. Get em good and riled up, rs tells me to do it all the time XD
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On June 16 2015 09:12 MoosyDoosy wrote: Alright I'm out. If ruXxar's going to continue to be a shit there's no point in being here.
You aren't even responding to,actual problems that are being shown
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If someone keeps promising activity when ever attention is given to them. Dissapears when thread looks everywhere and,never fulfills promise it a scummy
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On June 16 2015 09:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 09:19 Damdred wrote: If someone keeps promising activity when ever attention is given to them. Dissapears when thread looks everywhere and,never fulfills promise it a scummy Then can Kickstart respond to this rather than continuing to promise more activity and/or provide a solid argument?
I'm not sure I understand what you mean 100%. He's seen all this and all he's said is ok I'm town it will be a mislynch I'll do something later.
This s anti town at best scum at worst, look in comparison to rels when the wagons started.
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If I was "desperate" to get a lynch on you I would vote you at some point instead of showing someone an issue with you.
You do infact keep coming back apologizing for not being as active (excuses), also you might not say the words "I promise to be more active" but you do infer that you will come back to some form of your past posting style. Do I think you are scum, no clue honestly.
Also it wasn't a terrible lynch, Ritoky would also agree with me. Was it a perfect lynch no it wasn't, were you scum, no. Was there problems in your gameplay, yes. So stop playing the victim card here.
You keep saying sorry for no activity, even compared to other games of yours I've looked at your lack of content here is much more disturbing than even the last game that I cannot talk about at this point, while I could say that your posting style leaves a lot to be desired with your walls of text, this game you are much much less about projecting town and trying to lead town than being back seat at this stage.
So you have some problems.
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Lol ritoky would agree with me and he's a pretty decent player. However I'm not sure why you would call what Il doing now a tunnel at all. I've made a total of... 4 maybe 5 posts concerning you in a 68 page game.
If I was so convinced and tunneled I wouldn't bother talking to you. Besides the fact once again you are totally unable to see from another persons shoes. You've acted not like yourself, and you are now overly defensive and called out a couple people when others have been after you much harder.
Anyway you just need to stop being a lazy ass and do work over all.
like the oats observation is good, and I like that. Now talk to me about, moose and rox interactions you've probably read them at this point.
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Let me reinterate I'm not shitting on you, I want you to stop playing with a chip on your shoulder right now and cooperate towards finding scum to be active.
Like you can say a lot about my early game I know its the weakest part of my game and its compounded here by work+replacing in at an awkward juncture, but if I say X is a problem in this situation regardless of alignment its just how I see it. Its not a tunnel, I generally don't tunnel.
Here's the thing I honestly think that you are probably town. And we need to not bicker, I accept that I'm playing like shit and I can laugh at myself about it, give me some reads Ks.
personally id still rather lynch rux or sul today. I'd rather not lynch moose because of bad reasons. Oats is a possibility he has no real floe this game and can't see his thought movement which is troubling
Wave is probably town, rel feels town. Trfel is probably town, bats is defo town. So for me its a pretty small list of players I could see hang today.
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I think the four id be most ok to hang today,
would be oats rox sulf scott
that's in no particular order and its basically the same lynch as yours.
However I'd probably lynch rox, then decide between Scott and Sul another day however Scott feels vastly different than other games. He's really lurky and feels less inclined to give the same level of thoughts in used to and not interjecting himself.
your observation on oats is good.
kinda weird but that's where I'm at.
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Like if you want to lynch ks ok... But everyone is clamering to the cop check point and its a bad point and doesn't make anyone acum O-o
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So here's the deal, I don't think Ks is going to flip scum. Its mostly a gut feeling and how dickish/non surviving he's playing atm.
I expect more but yeah think he will flip town
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Yeah id be more up for a rox lynch here
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