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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 20:51 GMT
#440
Town needs to help me not get lynched or you will lose a townie which will hurt town. You don't want to hurt town do you? Then help me not get lynched. Thx
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:01 GMT
#449
On June 13 2015 05:53 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 05:37 Kickstart wrote:
Damn I went back to sleep and slept forever. 2 replacements already whata game. Still think ruXxar is slightly scummy but several people think he isn't so that's that.
+ Show Spoiler +
Sulfuris did come in and logic up his posts but that still leaves me baffled about his initial vote. If he is so concerned with the logic of his arguments and reads then how the hell did he make that post with that mindset. Seems like he did something scummy then tried to logic his way out. Seems the idea of a bats lynch is gathering steam. I actually thought his posting was weird but I have only played with him in 1 other game to go off of. I'll reread his filter at some point before EoD and see if I still get that impression.


What makes you think he's slightly scummy? And if others think he's slight town (like myself, I pointed out his interesting goosebump post) what's it matter? Every one could say X is town and if I don't agree, I'm going to say it.

"If you’re right and you know it, speak your mind. Speak your mind. Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth."-Ghandi


The worst thing I can find that sulfurus has done was misrepresenting how I played last game which isn't even the worst thing ever because I mislynched sulfurus last game, so he could just have some personal bias.

I don't want to lynch geript d1 but if you do then the stuff wave said is probably the best means to accomplish that. I can't add anything new that he hasn't said already and that geript hasn't already responded to.

On June 13 2015 05:54 Kickstart wrote:
Yeh you are still posting weird to me. Like why would you as an experienced player just resign to having other people defend you or get you out of a lynch. Unless you were mafia and didn't want to give out information.

I still think we have another day left btw but I could be completely wrong. mods halp, put a timer in votecounts :D!


People in this game are being unreadable and it's making me be crazy. Like yes objectively I am playing poorly but I am suffering from this warped perspective that by playing poorly for a time I can learn more about a game that I would just frustrate me if I were playing well.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:02 GMT
#450
On June 13 2015 05:56 geript wrote:
@bat. Why do you separate the people you do? You're the one who wants to not get lynched, yet you're not really giving us much.


What do you want me to give you?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:18 GMT
#452
I mean I guess plants looks the worst? There's not a lot in the game to work with. Most of the game has been talking about me and the people who did that talking all look pretty good.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:21 GMT
#455
On June 13 2015 06:20 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 06:18 batsnacks wrote:
I mean I guess plants looks the worst? There's not a lot in the game to work with. Most of the game has been talking about me and the people who did that talking all look pretty good.

Did you realize that plants got replaced by scottleet?


I did at one time but the OP hasn't been updated and I was reading filters and yeah.... I guess that would be why plants looks the worst...

brb reading scott
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:26 GMT
#458
On June 13 2015 06:22 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 22:32 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway... I don't feel like talking about this anymore. I changed my mind noobking you can find 2 scum reads. Keep your vote on me and find another another mafia.

I don't think it's a good sign that whether or not the player you were voting against is scum is something you "don't feel like talking about anymore." But anyway, as far as finding another lynch target...

damdred is not really participating much more than boxerfred was.
So far, scott is not sounding as suspicious as FakePlants did. So I'll bump him down my list a little.
I do not care for the tone of Sulfurus' posts. He would probably be my #2 lynch right now.


The stuff you were talking about was really boring. Like really, really boring. I still think you can't scum me for any of the advice I gave early game it was all fine and stuff I would say as any alignment. Look I can prove my advice was good: I didn't follow my own advice and now I'm leading in votes!
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:29 GMT
#461
On June 13 2015 06:26 geript wrote:
Newer players. Here's a hint. Just because someone isn't posting, doesn't make it malicious. People have real lives and we aren't all artificial intelligences perusing the interwebs and spending time doing random things like playing mafia on the interwebs. Being not around =/= being mafia in an of itself. It's an ok reason to supplement actual reasons for finding someone to be mafia. But in and of itself being not around doesn't make people mafia.


Oh yeah I forgot about that. All the people who were saying that you leaving the thread was scummy are wrong. I think wave was one of them; the other stuff he said was okay though.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:34 GMT
#463
On June 13 2015 05:58 geript wrote:
lol batsnacks would lynch himself


It wouldn't be the first time...
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:37 GMT
#466
On June 13 2015 06:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like I might be a little insulted actually. Go look at my post history and show me the 'other areas' I post.


1v1 me in mafia. Let's find out if he's right.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:44 GMT
#471
Trfel hasn't re-evaluated in a while. If I ask myself if Trfel really cares if ruxxar gets lynched or I think the answer I get is no. I could possibly push him.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:44 GMT
#473
On June 13 2015 06:42 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 03:28 geript wrote:
On June 13 2015 03:25 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know what geripts alignment is...

Clearly that guy is 3P.

I don't know what 3P means either.


It's a role that isn't in this game, don't worry about it.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:46 GMT
#474
Nevermind, I won't be pushing Trfel. -_-
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:47 GMT
#476
On June 13 2015 06:47 geript wrote:
Wave not making association cases would be far more concerning. Not a fan of trfel


Why don't you like Trfel?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:56 GMT
#481
On June 13 2015 06:49 Trfel wrote:
Batsnacks, any thoughts on Rels?


He made a case on plants that wasn't optimal. I thought plants was scummy for the short duration he/she was in the game but the focus of Rels' case was the excuse plants gave, which was not the scummiest part of plant's post. That has been most of Rels contribution to the game.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 21:57 GMT
#484
ebwop also Rels doesn't appear to have re-evaluated his plants read now that scott has replaced. If Rels is mafia that could be why.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 22:00 GMT
#485
On June 13 2015 06:56 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 06:44 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2015 10:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway Trfel, what makes bats town?
I had a town lean on batsnacks due to the balance between his jokes and serious reads. Since then, batsnacks has been much more serious, and his jokes are few and far between, so this read isn't valid any more.

On June 12 2015 10:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
NAI is a new thing lol.

I kinda like ruxxar.
It was really funny that he answered a question not directed at him asking why people shouldnt answer questions not directed at them.

He doesnt do it intentionally to just create content IMO.
(bold added)
So if he doesn't do it intentionally, then why is it towny?

On June 12 2015 15:03 n00bKing wrote:
It's also worth noting that RuXx purposely furthered the conversation about Town players lying, AFTER he saw that some other players were reacting negatively to what he had said. If a Newbie scum player saw that what he had said was causing some raised eyebrows, he might clam up or change the subject, to get beyond the comment that had raised suspicion, and bury it. Instead, he challenges the people who expressed a contradictory viewpoint, which ensures that no readers who come along later will gloss over what he's said.

You could try to say that he didn't realize it was a controversial statement when he first made it. But even after it was clear to him (based on the posts of other players) that it was a controversial statement, he stuck to it, and called more attention to it. Again, I feel like this is boldness you would seldom see from an inexperienced scum player.
This point about ruXxar continuing to press the lying issue is good. I guess I judged ruXxar too early.

##unvote

On June 12 2015 16:35 Rels wrote:
Hello everybody, GL HF!

I'll read the thread now and comment on things. See you soon.
I really don't like this post at all. Posting without having read the thread is useless, the only thing it helps with is making it look like you're doing more work that you actually are, and it detracts from scumhunting. But making a useless post after the investigation has already started is pathetic.

On June 13 2015 00:22 Rels wrote:
Alright ruxxar I was unsure how to read you. But with this post I now believe you're a super excited townie. I too believe that we should not let mafia the ability to stay silent.
Rels, what about ruXxar's post made you say this?

On June 13 2015 01:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
I can't decide now if I think geript and bats could be scum together for this horribleness. Association cases = bad but I can't help it and I THINK it's probably not the case. One of them at least for sure though.
I have no idea why someone as experienced as WaveofShadow would share a potential association case while in the same post acknowledging that association cases are bad. Please explain.

On June 13 2015 01:44 scott31337 wrote:
Good day. I'm at page 16 - So far not liking N00bking for his wordy fluff - and Rels gets a slight townread (even if it's for calling out my replacement). KS and Oats feel are two townies angry at each other.

Let me catch up with the rest and a through read.
Why does calling out the player with only one post, who needs to get replaced, make someone town? Especially because, if you are town, he called out the easiest player to pick on who happens to be confirmed town.

I really don't like batsnacks' response to the pressure on him. Batsnacks doesn't normally react like this, he's fine under pressure. In my first game playing with him, I tunneled him for basically all of Day 1 and Night 1, and he made a post telling people to stop arguing about useless things and read the case I had posted on him.

I need to read some filters, but batsnacks seems very active, concerned about his safety, but not providing actual content.

On June 13 2015 06:42 n00bKing wrote:
On June 13 2015 03:28 geript wrote:
On June 13 2015 03:25 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know what geripts alignment is...

Clearly that guy is 3P.

I don't know what 3P means either.
Third party.


Let me rephrase this since I see what you are saying but I didn't type that properly. Rels made a case on my replacement slot that he believed in, and caught Plants in a "lie" - I saw him a slight town read for believing in his case. I meant more of (even if he is calling out my replacement slot).


The "lie" is not alignment indicative I think. Plant's single generic advice/non-contribution post and then leaving is. It is hard to believe a townie begins the game by reading the thread, calling out a person for saying lying could be good (easiest call out ever), not drawing any conclusions what-so-ever and prompt leaving.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 22:05 GMT
#489
On June 13 2015 07:02 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:
What do I do if I don't have any scum reads? In a sense almost no one has scum reads because I'm town and the only people pushing stuff are pushing me.

Here's would lynch:
3)MoosyDoosy
4)Sulfurus
7)Fake)Plants
2)batsnacks
3)Trfel


here's idk can't form opinion:
6)damdred
1)Rels
4)WaveofShadow
5)geript
5)ruXxar

Here's would not lynch:
2)n00bKing
1)Kickstart
6)Oatsmaster

So you are 4th on your own lynch list? lol If you have a PM saying you are Town, and still would be content to lynch yourself, I guess your posts must look REALLY scummy to you!

If I have any hesitation about seeing you lynched, it would be that I actually like how a lot (not all, but a lot) of your list shakes out, including your placement near the top.
Show nested quote +
batsnacks wrote: help me not get lynched. Thx

I would help! But some dude named batsnacks told me to let other players defend themselves. :D


They're not in any specific order and I made that list in like 30 seconds and yes I would lynch me I am one of the scummier players in the game, though historically I have only ever lynched myself as town so this is a point in my favor.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 22:13 GMT
#493
n00bking why are you still voting me is there something you're confused about or are you just too lazy to move your vote?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 22:16 GMT
#496
On June 13 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:
Rels

1. Lots of early posts with no content, only purpose is to make it seem like he's doing stuff
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Completely useless "hi" post ~10 hours after the game started, not necessary at all.
2. "LOL" in response to ruXxar's contradiction, no conclusion about his alignment at all*
3. Asks a question to ruXxar (still nothing about ruXxar's alignment)
4. Says that MoosyDoosy's first post is weird*
5. Tells n00bKing not to defend ruXxar*
6. Asks a question to Sulfurus*
7. Repeats one of Oatsmaster's comments*

The things with asterisks had been said by someone else before Rels commented on them.

Then he (finally) posts his case on Fake)Plants.
On June 12 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:
OK I finally found a mafia.
And by doing this shows that all of his previous posts amount to very little.

There's really no reason for Rels to post like this, it serves no purpose for scumhunting or confirming his own alignment. All it does is make it look like he's doing work, but repeating things that have already been said isn't even work.

2. Makes a case on the easiest possible target
+ Show Spoiler +
Fake)Plants only had one post.

Rels just continues to talk about this post, spending many, many posts directing people back to it. He's not showing any interest in anything else that's happening.

3. Townread on ruXxar
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 13 2015 00:22 Rels wrote:
Alright ruxxar I was unsure how to read you. But with this post I now believe you're a super excited townie. I too believe that we should not let mafia the ability to stay silent.

So. What do you think of plants first and only post ?
Rels thinks that ruXxar is town for making a post with no content at all. RuXxar made a post saying that MoosyDoosy's defense of himself is really good, and then Rels townreads ruXxar for this. RuXxar's inability to defend himself but willingness to jump on someone else's defense of him is extremely scummy, and reminds me of ShoCkeyy in my last game. There is absolutely no reason for Rels to townread ruXxar because of this post.

Furthermore, he agrees that we shouldn't let the mafia stay silent. And he does this by asking his townread about the only other read he's made in this game, and then vanishing. Not actually acting on this whatsoever.


4. Hasn't re-evaluated his read on plants now that scott has replaced, which one would think would be a high priority for him.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 22:21 GMT
#501
gj Trfel you found mafia

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