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Just an fyi, I will tunnel people to hell and back who willfully misrepresent what I say. Ask Oats. Whenever he decides to show up that is. | ||
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##Vote Sulfurus Explain your pointless vote you scummer. | ||
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Anyways I got no read off of what bats has done. What you think of the ruxxar situation. | ||
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First several posts he seems quite concerned about the scum team! Why is this. This doesn't seem to be normal new town player concerns to me. On June 12 2015 07:22 ruXxar wrote: Well if the mafia are just going to lynch themselves then this should be an easy game! On June 12 2015 07:26 ruXxar wrote: I actually believe in the right of individual freedom, so as long as the mafia just stick to themselves and don't hurt anyone, I don't mind having them around  .*slaps himself* No, stop daydreaming ruxx! Then there was his answering question slip which has been the topic of much debate. It is really weird because I said I don't like people answering questions directed at others, Trfel asks me why, and then ruxx answers -______-. I think a townie would read that and be wary of answering because they see me saying that answering for others is a bad thing. My take on it is that ruxx maybe saw an easy opportunity to seem helpful and didn't even pay attention to the interaction going on there. On June 12 2015 07:36 ruXxar wrote: Usually you want to hear the reasoning of the person you're asking. If someone answers the question before him, you potentially open up for someone else to make a logical conclusion beforehand, and then the guy the question was directed at get an easy bandwagon onto that guys conclusions. At least that is what I think. Another post which doesn't seem like a town mindset at all to me. Why would town try to defend lying. This seems like scum saying "lying is ok" but trying to make it seem like something town just does all the time too, it isn't, and this is scum mindset imo. On June 12 2015 07:39 ruXxar wrote: Why don't you like liars? Lying is a powerful tool that when used in the right situation can greatly benefit one's interests. This goes for both sides. Deception is not a thing reserved only for mafia. What you meant to say is that you don't like liars that have conflicting interests from you. And yet another on the lying thing that I just don't see a townie making. This just stinks of scum mindset to me again. On June 12 2015 08:04 ruXxar wrote: I didn't like his statement about not liking liars. This whole game is based on the concept of deception. If you don't like that aspect of the game, why are you here? You might claim that you like hunting lying mafia, But it's not a given beforehand what role you will be, so that doesn't make sense either. I have no prior info about any of the players here, so he might have some personal conviction for why he said that, but to me it didn't seem like a genuine well thought through statement. And here is a ton of WIFOM that is literally useless to town. Ended with a pointless question to me. Again to me it is just obvious why as town you don't like people to lie, I even explained a few times what I meant by the statement, so he is either not reading or pressing a nonsensical point. On June 12 2015 08:43 ruXxar wrote: I beg to differ. I've been leading an open and active discussion, answering and asking questions. If I was scum I would be very careful not to expose myself like that. I already admitted that I missed the logical inconsistency in answering kick starts question. If I had been mafia then I would have been way more careful in considering my response and not make such an obvious error. The only one that has made any statements that I don't understand / agree with so far is kick start. He's also dodged my question so far. He only explained what it means, not why he said it. So @ kickstart. Please explain why you don't like liars. On its own this post isn't too bad but coupled with his general tone I think this just adds to it. A tell that a lot of new scum players fall for is proclaiming their inexperience. He does this a lot in his earlier posts in the way of justifying various things because of not knowing the game or the players, and in this post he does it again when it is needless imo. Saying I agree would have sufficed but for some reason he feels the need to proclaim his inexperience, something that everyone in the game knows. On June 12 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote: I agree. As said, it's my first time playing mafia and I haven't been in many situations lately where i have to formulate sharp logical arguments. I am usually forgiving to players I don't know or newer players, but to me there are so many things that seem scummy to me that I can't do that in ruXxars case. Thoughts? | ||
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Early day1 association cases too ez4me. | ||
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no I was not baiting. I mean that he entirely missed the problem with him answering that when it wasn't directed at him. @Oats So I make a read and ask for opinions on it and you scum read me for tryharding? Amusing coming from a guy who makes up a rule and then pushes a nonsense read on bats based on said rule that he just made up. Really don't know what it is with you but you just perpetually tunnel me and annoy me in every game. | ||
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On June 12 2015 11:25 Sulfurus wrote: I townread n00b because I liked his post on ruxx. I townread ruxx at the time but I want to take the time to digest Kick's latest post before giving another read on him. Before you do that why not answer my question to you. I've mentioned it several times now. Explain your vote on me. | ||
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Go look at my previous games if you are "concerned" with my "tryhard" posting style (just rofl at how bullshit this is), you will find that this is normal for me and that when I have been lynched for my posting it has been a mislynch. | ||
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On June 12 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: ^ Also Kickstart, I wouldn't read too much into ruXx's initial post where he's rambling about slapping/daydreaming about Mafia. It might have been from an attempt to identify himself as a non-aggressor to the Mafia so that when night time comes around, they don't kill him. If the game went on for longer, people would also suspect ruXx more giving the Mafia an easy kill. This actually happens a ton in real life Mafia but it's clear it's totally different online at this point. Also, going back to his post where he "misses the interaction" which is right after his rambling, it's pretty clear that ruXx is not paying attention whatsoever. As a newbie he was probably just as excited as I was about remaining passive which is why he didn't notice the err in his post. Just the fact that it seems he has no idea whatsoever about what he's saying during his rambling just shows this too. I'll look through the rest of your points, but I'll try and provide a "newbie perspective." Either way, it looks like he wised up real fast and stopped being as frantic and energetic in his posts. You could be right, and as I said I usually do give players I don't know and new players the benefit of the doubt, but as I said the fact that he has done several things that I think are scummy and none that I deem towny is why I presented this and asked for peoples thought. Also, the goal of town is not to protect themselves from a mafia nightkill. This doesn't matter in the slightest unless you are a blue role or something, and even then, the #1 goal of town should always be to show that they are town through their actions, and coming in a close second is helping to find scum. Sitting back and not being a target is literally the last thing you want to do as town because it makes it hard to read you, which is shit for town but good for scum because they already know your alignment while town doesn't. | ||
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On June 12 2015 11:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: @Kickstart, I'm not saying you're tryharding I'm saying ruXx was tryharding at the start. Please re-read. That was directed at Oats.................................................................................. | ||
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