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On June 14 2015 03:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Sulfurus. batsnacks is not Mafia. He's been playing a shitty game as he says and he deserves to die for doing so, but he's a townie no matter how I look at it. I'd prefer to vote for geript as he's acting strange as well, but the priority should be to keep a townie alive.
So he deserves to die for,playing shirts not that he's scum?
that's interesting
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On June 14 2015 04:03 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 03:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 14 2015 03:37 Damdred wrote:
Who should we lynch today moos Sulfurus. batsnacks is not Mafia. He's been playing a shitty game as he says and he deserves to die for doing so, but he's a townie no matter how I look at it. I'd prefer to vote for geript as he's acting strange as well, but the priority should be to keep a townie alive. So he deserves to die for,playing shirts not that he's scum? that's interesting
I think,I misunderstood your post is it about sulf or bat
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On June 14 2015 04:13 Sulfurus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 22:42 Damdred wrote:
(Never use this again bats is to smart a player) + Show Spoiler +On June 13 2015 22:42 Damdred wrote:
Yeah bats is a completely stupid lynch, here. (Never use this again bats is to smart a player)
If you look at bats last scum/town games you see a few things crop up.
1) as scum once it's clear that he is going to,be one of,l the leading wagons his care factor diminishes to a few posts randomly complaining without doing anything about it or pushing his own thoughts.
In comparison here he is pushing what he thinks explaining why he's town,and,not giving,up. I liked bats when I first read his filter. He keeps pushing the thread.
2) as scum, he has developed an ability to have weak scum reads to a point.
Here he has well reasoned or seemingly well reasoned reasons for calling people out.
3) resorts to trolling as scum when he's caught.
He's not doing this here.
Bats is town, besides meta. Biggest filter, most controversial figure d1. Okish reads.
Leave the bats alone This read is so bad. Like if Bats is so smart what's stopping him from changing his meta this game. It's not like he is unaware of this meta either since he spammed the thread with his 'longest filter' defense.
Actually it's a really good read that bats wasn't aware of till now. When you give meta reads he changes after usually not before.
Anyway longed filter isn't a bat meta thing it's a tl mafia thing, though activity as mafia is harder to do anyway. So yea
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I'm trying something new here, I'm not going to,give top town trel a hard time about being not sure about me. Instead I'll try to work with and sheep today.
This plan is great
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Imo lynch rels trfel has made several excellent posts that really show someone being crummy. I think it's a good case
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Then explain how he is trying in your opinion.
And I just like the case wave, I could probably lynch sulf to.
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On June 14 2015 05:38 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 14 2015 05:32 batsnacks wrote:
Bat Traps™ mafia traps. The highest quality traps for your scum hunting needs. We'll see how right we are after Sulfurus, Rels, and getrip. You don't understand. geript just claimed mafia. Here is geript saying he will sheep Trfel's amazing case on Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Actually, I think I'm going to sheep too. Here is sulfurus's bold post defending Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. Here is me saying sulfurus's post is bold, I ask why mafia would post such a thing: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. This is bold. Why does mafia post this? Here geript explains that sometimes mafia like to defend town poorly. geript knows that Rels is town, yet he would sheep Trfel's case on Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:08 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. This is bold. Why does mafia post this? It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia.
Bats...I am so proud of you
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Noob bat caught scum. Which Geript blurted me town XD so there's that to
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That is shot, we had an hour left~ ~.
Bats is town though
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Obviously you are,
Don't talk about the,mod,decision leave it for after game.
We find scum
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Also day post is at 18:06 for,me and it's 18:36 now Sooo it's right just sucks.
Anyway, who do you think is town/scum
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Umm Idk why Geript as confirmed town would have better reads than say... anyone left alive?
Like I can understand parssing what Geript said see who voted him why (good catch wave) but I don't think,scum,bats leads the lynch onto Geript,like this. Nor do I think we should really debate if the big should shoot him or not
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On June 14 2015 11:52 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 09:09 Damdred wrote:
Umm Idk why Geript as confirmed town would have better reads than say... anyone left alive? That's not the point. geript's reads might not be "better" but they are "trustworthy." Pick any player left that you think is better at this game than geript is. Are that player's reads likely to be "better" than geript's? Maybe. But you don't know whether they are genuine, or if they are coming from a scum player. geript's reads might not be right, but at least we have reason to expect he was being honest with us. And his honest opinions are that Sulfurus and Rels would be good players to think about lynching, but that first and foremost, we should put a bullet in batsnacks.
This is so wrong.... so very very wrong
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Damdreds Late night Reads List:
Firstly i'm going to take out the wagons that ended up with 0 votes to start with, and also the scratched people presently. I'll dedicate a post later to talking about vote changes (maybe in this post on some people) to determine some alignments if I can.
Sulfurus (2): Kickstart, WaveOfShadow
Batsnacks (2): n00bKing, sulfurus,
geript (8): Rels, Oatsmaster, batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, MoosyDoosy, ruXxar, scott31337
Rels (1): geript,
This is what we end up with (cleaned up version)
Sulfurus (2): Kickstart, WaveOfShadow
Batsnacks (2): n00bKing, sulfurus,
geript (8): Rels, Oatsmaster, batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, MoosyDoosy, ruXxar, scott31337
Rels (1): geript,
First thing I do is color in Geript with a bold and a green since hes flipped to the thread.
Secondly since im not confirmed to the thread but to myself (go me) i'm putting myself as green. I'd rather not have to right out a town case currently for myself so just trust me for now.
Two easiest town reads are now colored in green for me.
Batsnacks I've covered pretty extensively in my earlier filter, if you want the longer case its in my filter go read it a bit. But to add on a bit, Bats made a decent point and pushed it. Thought he found a slip and pushed it, he led the lynch on Geript even fi he flipped town. Scum bats is really back seat he does try to cause confusion. However at this end of day he was really useful he was calm and acted really towny with how he went about the lynch. This guy might be the most town I've ever seen Bats be before, if he did this as scum i'm pretty impressed.
Trfel, is town also. Made some excellent points on Rel, but ended up sheeping Batsnacks around the same time I did. The posts that Trfel did make were some of the longer cases I thought were pretty good and factually sound. Though some people might disagree with them It hought they were really good and showed a clear understanding of what was going on. Also Trfel knows my kryptonite somewhat and how to abuse me in a thread without seeming scummy for it and chose to try to work with me and give me time instead of coming down hard on me. Its also partially a tone read and how the involvement in the thread is going. i'm pretty confident that Trfel is town here.
Sulfurus (2): Kickstart, WaveOfShadow
Batsnacks (2): n00bKing, sulfurus,
geript (8): Rels, Oatsmaster, batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, MoosyDoosy, ruXxar, scott31337
Rels (1): geript,
Ruxxar is one of my scum leans currently. I won't take credit for the initial find of the post where he switched votes from bats to Geript. (Wave gets credit for pointing it out) He shows very little consistency with how his reads change and how he approaches the thread, for example when bats makes his push on Geript he showed very little suspicion for someone that was hard scum reading Bats and thought that he was the best lynch in the entire game. Also he gave kickstart a town lean for almost no reason when he was suspicious of him before. He also has expanded his filter with a lot of talk about speculation and about claims and how to handl blues etc. Overall I think hes decently scummy and should be lookd at harder.
WaveofShadow is another decent town lean currently. He shows genuine interest in figuring out peoples alignments, he pushes on people and is searching to find scum when he is here. One of the negatives I have is that sometimes he feels a little passive in the way that he does things at the same time. I know for instance he asked me several questions that I just didn't answer at the time and still haven't answered (I believe) and even though I've been in the thread with him he just hasn't cared. So he worries me a little bit but i'm generally paranoid of him also, plus he soft pushed geript a little bit.
Sulfurus (2): Kickstart, WaveOfShadow
Batsnacks (2): n00bKing, sulfurus,
geript (8): Rels, Oatsmaster, batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, MoosyDoosy, ruXxar, scott31337
Rels (1): geript,
Moosy I think is town, I would look at him more later, and its mostly just a gut feeling. He feels really honest to me and just confused at points. I think hes town.
Tone read on scott, and his postings just feel like his towny self. Good direction I feel like at points.
I am going to end this here for now, I don't have the attention span to go through everything. I'll try to finish reads before the morning on the others. I'm still leaning scum on Rels and kickstarts activity is worrying and lack of real content compared to his other games.
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On June 14 2015 12:14 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 12:08 Damdred wrote:On June 14 2015 11:52 n00bKing wrote:On June 14 2015 09:09 Damdred wrote:
Umm Idk why Geript as confirmed town would have better reads than say... anyone left alive? That's not the point. geript's reads might not be "better" but they are "trustworthy." Pick any player left that you think is better at this game than geript is. Are that player's reads likely to be "better" than geript's? Maybe. But you don't know whether they are genuine, or if they are coming from a scum player. geript's reads might not be right, but at least we have reason to expect he was being honest with us. And his honest opinions are that Sulfurus and Rels would be good players to think about lynching, but that first and foremost, we should put a bullet in batsnacks. This is so wrong.... so very very wrong How so? Why do you think geript's reads aren't trustworthy, even if they could still be inaccurate? Why do you think he wouldn't be honest with us, on his way out the door? He's going to try and mislead us, just out of spite, because he's pissed about being mislynched? This is a Newbie game. Saying a post like mine is "very very wrong" without giving a single drop of explanation WHY it's wrong, does not serve the Town's interests.
Geript is a person, people are generally wrong. This is day one even good players are more often than not wrong on d1.
I'm not saying geript wasn't being honest with anything.
I'm saying following someones reads when you lynch them is the wrong thing to do. And a good way to lose a game, lets say you follow Geripts reads. Shoot bats he flips town, lynch X they flip town. Then what happens you are in lylo because you followed someones reads instead of developed something else as the days went on.
I've already explained this but i'll rephrase, just because someone can be trusted once they are flipped doesn't mean that they should be followed necessarily. Though granted he might have some good points on people, the only reason he wanted bats shot was because he thought he was being stupid.
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On June 14 2015 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Damdred didn't call me town, he's scum.
Also that completely pointless list post that has more townreads than scum reads.
Sulph / damdred mafia.
Scott also maybe.
its amazingly accurate that their are more scum than town in this game.
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Well firstly I always hunt scum,by hunting tow first anyone who,has played any amount of,games with me knows this.
I'd lynch rox sulf and rels one of them tommorow
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Ehhh I'm not sure.
I guess put ks in there instead
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On June 15 2015 02:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 02:00 Damdred wrote:
Ehhh I'm not sure.
I guess put ks in there instead Not impressed.
You never are baby
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Wave is silly, I think,it's pretty obvious who's,getting shot tonight.
Bats go,with God and your mafia hinting skills.
But on a serious note. I really don't like noob I'm not sure what it is his posts just give me an odd feeling.
His posts seem helpful at points but don't really accomplish much, I will be echoing bats a bit. But for example his pushing to get the vig to shoot bats is extremely strange still to me.
And to an extent he lacks real,scum hunting overall to me.
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