Geript are you around later tonight?
Maybe a couple of the newbies as well? And maybe onegu?

Could do an impromptu podcast-style discussion on my stream if anyone is interested.

Say 10 ish est?

WaveofShadow

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June 22 2015 23:11 GMT

#2645

Alright well if anyone wants to discuss, I'll be on TS at around 10.

WaveofShadow

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June 22 2015 23:14 GMT

#2649

We can Skype but I don't have everyones info honey bunny

WaveofShadow

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June 22 2015 23:32 GMT

#2657

On June 23 2015 08:18 Onegu wrote:

Show nested quote +

Everyone is welcome. Glad WoS said something. This game since everyone played really well is really good to go over. Maybe someone could stream it...

That's the plan.

WaveofShadow

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June 23 2015 00:13 GMT

#2673

On June 23 2015 09:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude before the reaction I was like 50/50, after the reaction it was 100% that he's mafia. Town don't react that way to a fake check on them.

Ehhh...you might be sort of right on there but I don't think it was as conclusive as you're making it seem. You definitely had the right idea but you go about it SO BADLY Oats. You gotta try and organize your thoughts a little better. It's too easy to pick out inconsistencies everywhere you go. Also PLEASE don't fakeclaim as town. All things considered that was actually one of the better ones I've seen but I don't want these newbies to learn from it lol

And I was telling the truth when I said I thought you were playing well D1. You just kinda fell off hard.

WaveofShadow

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June 23 2015 00:18 GMT

#2677

On June 23 2015 09:16 geript wrote:
Still failing at reading and thinking hunh bats?

Relax, bbygrl. Unclench those buttocks and let it go.

WaveofShadow

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June 23 2015 00:50 GMT

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On June 23 2015 09:29 ruXxar wrote:
Damnit oats, I really wanted to believe your claim, but I needed something more substantial against wave if you wanted to take him down.

His play was just too perfectly aligned with town play.

The attacks he made on sulfurus totally convinced me he was town.
Also when he was so distraught that I called out moosys blue role convinced me doubly of that.

You could say I'm easily fooled

Read the bolded :D

WaveofShadow

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June 23 2015 02:03 GMT

#2708

Stream is up!
www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow

WaveofShadow

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June 23 2015 02:20 GMT

#2711

Thunderstorm too stronk.
I might have to wait until it dies down.

WaveofShadow

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June 23 2015 02:29 GMT

#2717

Troll ass thunderstorm. Thought it was done, no thunder or lightning, just starting everything up again, another brownout.

Think it's done for real this time

WaveofShadow

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June 23 2015 12:06 GMT

#2743

If I was actually town I would have died earlier. It's kind of hard to make that kind of theoretical argument.

Yes you're right that it's not always the right call, but you don't necessarily have people who are amazingly good at solving the game by the time you get to MYLO so it's tougher to say.

WaveofShadow

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June 23 2015 12:51 GMT

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On June 23 2015 21:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay maybe "amazingly good at solving the game" is a wrong wording to use if i implied so.

Usually, with no blues around anymore (if you discount Oats' claim here) the most townie person dies, it's gonna be a no-brainer and only causes WIFOM. They were either right or wrong (but still looked town) and you can't really say "hey this guy died because he said these people are mafia", especially if the town doesn't really either (1) have a clear clue who is scum or (2) all think certain people are scum. Both of those are usually the cases, either mafia is playing too well and the townies are just wrong or "everyone is right" and mafia has been mostly found out.

Both of those cases in my opinion gain more from there being the "obvious town who noone thinks is mafia" alive, because you can be sure their voting/thoughts are from town perspective.

EDIT: Like imo it's really much harder to convince 2 of 4 townies to vote with you than it is to convince 1 of 3 townies to do so as mafia.

I'll concede the point if there is an extremely obvious NK and it's not going to help you narrow things down any further but you also have to then assume that it will be extremely obvious for everyone in the game and/or no major dissenting opinions like you were saying. I think as a general rule though especially for these newbies no lynching at MYLO is usually the way to go, and as they get better they'll be able to judge for themselves each game beyond that if there is a point to doing so.

Edit: And I just read that Ruxxar said always no lynch at MYLO so yeah Rayn is definitely right---there are cases where it doesn't necessarily help like he's been saying.