EPTDude it wasn't a trap, it was to see if anyone would go on it. And to not slip that I'm cop. Cause it would be super weird for me to suddenly town read someone I've kinda semi scum read the whole game.
Again, why would I fake such a "bad" check.
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Dude it wasn't a trap, it was to see if anyone would go on it. And to not slip that I'm cop. Cause it would be super weird for me to suddenly town read someone I've kinda semi scum read the whole game. Again, why would I fake such a "bad" check. | ||
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Look at wave's reaction. He's mafia. He got caught. I swapped after he made some really townie looking postsso it was easy to swap. | ||
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On June 21 2015 19:21 Rels wrote: OK oats I'll reread everything tomorrow before taking a stance. But you lied in this post. That is exactly what you did day 3 to kickstart. But i had ample reason to do so then so it doesnt look suspicious. . Before that, kickstart didnt really look all thattttt townie because he just wanted to lynch me. | ||
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On June 21 2015 23:03 WaveofShadow wrote: So I just noticed something interesting. The timing of oats claim comes after he can be sure town doesn't have a cop. He waits for everyone in the town to have posted to confirm rather than claim early in the day. You ask 'but wave, everyone had posted already waayyy before oats claimed!' Look at the timing of trfels post. He posts and leaves before the idea of cop claiming comes up. Oats waits until he posts the second time to be absolutely sure its safe. (This actually means trfel is probably town?) It's obvious to me where votes need to be today. I have proof now oats is scum but the rest of you need to choose one way or another. Objectively the claim and his 'proof' is awful but I suppose im just biased considering my position. Either way i'm not going to spend what time I have arguing with him either so you guys can do what you feel is right and I'm going to do what I can to help find the final scum. Probably not much until tomorrow though as its fathers day today. Dude, i claimed because everyone called me mafia. I was thinking that I could get you lynched then we pretty much win the game. I have no proof. You expect breadcrumbs? I never crumb. Now even after we lynch you, I dont get any more checks. Also, why isnt this your first post after I claim huh? Your reaction was really really bad. and the final nail in the coffin. So I just noticed something interesting. from townwave's perspective, Im fake. So there clearly must be something to prove that Im fakeclaiming. but he JUST notices something "wrong"? 8 hours after I claim? | ||
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On June 21 2015 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Unfortunately shouting 'I know im town therefore oats must be scum' isn't helpful to everyone else that doesn't know my alignment. I've already shown two ways that you're faking it. Your explanation of your scum reading kickstart is horseshit. Go ahead and explain away and bring all the horseshit you need to. Hopefully town doesn't buy into it but at least I'm doing all I can. For like the 3rd damn time, why would I fakeclaim such a shitty check? I havent seen any answers from anyone. You dont seem worried that being lynched means town lose the game. You dont seem worried at all. | ||
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On June 22 2015 04:50 Rels wrote: Yo, between two drinks, here is a message to Oats, as he probably will be sleeping when I wake up tomorrow: Oats, I'm not believing your claim right now. But ... it makes a little bit more sense than I thought. You didn't attack batsnacks during D2. You ignored Kickstart during D3. So. Please show me a previous game of yours where you do something like that. If it exists, show me a game where you are a cop and you did one of the following: - you didn't claim a redcheck, but tried to attack him with arguments - you didn't breadcrumb - you attacked a greencheck to throw off mafia members I have been cop like once, 2 years ago or something. So no, I cant show you a game. Sorry. But the point of not claiming is because we have a much much much easier time tomorrow if I managed to get wave lynched without claiming. | ||
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On June 22 2015 07:05 ruXxar wrote: So here's where I am at: I really want to lynch oats, nothing would please me more, he's been nothing but a useless townie all game. However, my brain is telling me that if there's a godfather in the game, there has to be a cop. On top of that, it's a newbie game. Chances are the setup will be pretty default with a medic/cop. Assuming this I see two scenarios: Either oats is fake-claiming and we have a cop that has yet to claim. Or, he's telling the truth and wave is mafia. All of my beeing really wants to lynch oatsmaster, but I can't reasonably convince myself that there somehow is a godfa ther but not a cop. If the real cop is out there, please claim so my world will make sense again. Hey my day 1 was good ok. | ||
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Also, look at waves reaction man, it's super telling that he's mafia. | ||
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You gotta decide today. | ||
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On June 22 2015 09:05 ruXxar wrote: This is a strange request all of a sudden. Why did you want a no-lynch? so I could get another check without having to make magic happen. Now it's too late though | ||
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2nd day. I thought it was a bus because it would've be suspicious for people to lynch kickstart when sulph was really obvious mafia. I don't think mafia tried to lynch Kickstart over sulph. Knowing Kickstart's alignment then makes it easier to find the mafia team. Also he wasn't on the chopping block or shooting block so imo it was a great check. I didn't do jack with this in terms of analysing other dudes though. Life is tough 3rd day, At this point, I'm running outta checks. It's still not lylo though so I'm not checking damdred, there are better check and I have explained why. I set a trap for damdred earlier in the day though. I'm pretty sure Scott hasn't gotten lynched at that point so I was setting a trap just to confirm him for people who have no idea. | ||
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Apparently he thinks that when I say the kickstart shit wasn't a trap but to get reactions it's somehow a lie. I guess he tried too hard to defend wave. Secondly, the post I had with kickstart clearly doesn't say what my read on him is, being a dick is not alignment indicative. Rels is pushing bullwhip and forcing a case in order to lynch the uncced cop. Me. Also, in his vote post, he puts more emphasis on other people's analysis rather than his own. And still nobody has posted a reason why I fake claim both red check on wave and a green check on kickstart...... | ||
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It looks like the reaction of mafia that got caught. | ||
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You do understand why I claimed late right? If I claimed with the opening post of day 1, we still have this discussion and we don't get the chance to get both mafia. We only get one and then no info tmr. | ||
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If wave is town and get lynched, he loses the game. Does his reaction after my claim show that at all???? No. He was looking back to find something to disprove my claim way too late. Trfel, tell me. If someone claims a recheck on you, you will just go off on him right? Is your reaction anything like waves? No town reaction is like that. My points are not wifom. I really thought I could get out of the lynch. Check before the day post. The attitude was definitely not like this at all. Why would mafia oats not go for easy targets on d3? You say that I'm forced into fake claiming a redcheck today wave today, but that's cause of d3 and n3. It just makes 0 sense for mafia oats not to pocket wave when he clearly has problems reading me. Trfel, there is still more than one day left. Talk to me. I want to win this game, you want to win this game. Kickstart too. Appealing to emotion is totally a thing. | ||
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Come on guys, please think properly about this. I am not playing you. Think about it, if I'm mafia, why don't I just post seals and rely on my teammate winning? You guys have no idea who the other mafia is, if I'm mafia and I post seals. | ||
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