[M][N] I Still Can't Believe it's not Themed Mafia

On June 05 2015 08:45 VayneAuthority wrote:


This guy is mafia.

Notice how he tries to insert himself into the playful banter so as to fit into the crowd, but doesn't actually care to continue it or give a reasonable out. He simply drops his comment in and that's it to expand his filter and get townie points.

On top of that, his post has 3 As in it and I think he is trying to breadcrumb here that he is a triple A member, but that is impossible if we are to believe the average town member is of Onegu's stature, a poor farmer who probably doesn't even have a car. It doesn't add up.

Therefore, I state my conclusions to be appropriate.

On June 05 2015 08:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hey gang

On June 05 2015 13:33 Alakaslam wrote:

Hijole brodda

Wassap

On June 05 2015 13:36 Alakaslam wrote:
We vote here? I think there is brown wisdom but I must learn what I cannot learn; why does he trust the fast case? Is meta so great a tool?

On June 05 2015 13:37 Alakaslam wrote:

You see why I spoke of this man in the reply to the Russian bird?

Hijole. I play into his hands though

On June 05 2015 13:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
chez the chezinu rule is the first one to vote you is mafia right?

On June 05 2015 13:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
chez the chezinu rule is the first one to vote you is mafia right?

On June 05 2015 14:33 prplhz wrote:
Chezinu's posts are sort of readable this game?

On June 06 2015 00:14 Alakaslam wrote:

Marv has said what I was thinking, in some weird wordless slam sort of way.

##Unvote

It's not vote worthy. However Chezinu

On June 07 2015 17:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Chez this game makes me really sad. So uninspired and subdued. What happened?

On June 09 2015 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
yes, Chez normally lurks.

I'd say as town he's more interesting/kooky than when he is mafia.

also i don't know what his pushy thingy is on FF, that's something i specifically don't like.

On June 05 2015 20:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No.

On June 06 2015 05:06 marvellosity wrote:
would lynch Artanis -> fuba -> yamato

On June 07 2015 22:34 marvellosity wrote:
i have read the whole thread.

On June 05 2015 08:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
First.

Confirmed town.

On June 05 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

##Vote Marvellosity
My ego is hurt.

On June 05 2015 21:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Yes you do, you've mentioned that you hate how certain people can be read as town or scum simply based on their effort level. I also do think it applies even though he's being bad.

As for Chezinu, going after him has a tendency of ending poorly because of how he's known as a 'troll'. Going after these types is actually the hardest because it's generally considered the easiest target (which sounds like a paradox, but I think it's accurate)

On June 06 2015 04:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
ok.
##Unvote
##Vote Fecalfeast

On June 06 2015 05:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

You are going to be so disappointed.

On June 06 2015 05:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Because the thread was boring and I figured with the attention you gave to that part mafia would've certainly noticed and probably figured it out. This way at least everyone has the info.

On June 07 2015 17:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Chez this game makes me really sad. So uninspired and subdued. What happened?

On June 09 2015 08:02 NaCl`y wrote:


Your vote is incongruous with your writing. You just point out that Half the Sky is asking a question she already knows the answer to and instead you vote for marvellosity?

On June 09 2015 08:10 Half the Sky wrote:


Here's the thing - I didn't actually play that game (Ippo) and I honestly forgot I even asked that in the obs qt for Ippo. I checked the playerlist at the time I first stopped reading and I realised you hadn't said or done much of anything so that's where that came from.

Although Salty I think the marv vote is coming from marv actually saying "Chez normally lurks" as he's quoted.

On June 09 2015 08:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright I see where I asked the question, and I see even Onegu is saying "no he isn't" or something like that.

I don't see a response from Marv....rough estimate here, how many games have you had with Marv? I'm guessing probably enough he should know your meta?

On June 09 2015 08:49 marvellosity wrote:

you know you lurked like **** when we were mafia together

On June 06 2015 05:11 yamato77 wrote:

this is your case on artanis

****ing lol

On June 06 2015 05:14 yamato77 wrote:
it says something that I take so little meaning from such a shit post and you apparently think it's enough to have him as your top scumread

****ing LOL

On June 06 2015 05:17 yamato77 wrote:

LOL that's ****ing glorious

so this is actually serious? good lord.

On June 06 2015 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
you're a ****ing idiot

On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:

It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia.

The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand?

If NaCl IS town and he IS doctor, he's a fucking idiot for "counterclaiming" in a closed setup in the first place. If you don't believe Artanis' claim, MAKE GOOD POINTS ABOUT IT, DON'T "COUNTERCLAIM" WITH A DIFFERENT ROLE THAN THE ONE BEING CLAIMED

It's ****ing asinine that you're going along with this as well. Is town JAT honestly this fucking stupid to want to lynch into obvious claims?

On June 06 2015 08:10 yamato77 wrote:

like, this is what this dude has to say about everything that's happened in the game so far

and you idiots are lynching into claims in a closed setup

****ing LOL

On June 05 2015 18:40 yamato77 wrote:

My whole "I can read prplhz" thing was when I was mafia, lol.

I'll let marv have the fun this game. Although independently of anything you've posted, there's this rule that says you should be mafia. Just dunno if it actually applies this game, given Chez's play.

On June 08 2015 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
**** off jat, i cba with your nonsense

On June 08 2015 23:38 marvellosity wrote:
I **** up mafia games.

Love it.

On June 09 2015 16:18 Mig wrote:


Honestly I am not sure, like is this post by chez and the one following basically him claiming mafia? It sounds to me like yam is his servant in the story. I don't really ****ing know what to take seriously with chez. Obviously hes trolling but it seems more likely to me that chez would troll pretend to be mafia as mafia over doing so as town.

I am good with lynching chez or JTA.

On June 09 2015 16:18 Mig wrote:


Honestly I am not sure, like is this post by chez and the one following basically him claiming mafia? It sounds to me like yam is his servant in the story. I don't really fucking know what to take seriously with chez. Obviously hes trolling but it seems more likely to me that chez would troll pretend to be mafia as mafia over doing so as town.

I am good with lynching chez or JTA.

On June 05 2015 08:50 Mig wrote:
Been awhile since I have played, is Marv still good? Anyone else known as a good townie that's playing? Yamamato still incredibly hard headed?

On June 05 2015 09:12 Mig wrote:
I am sad yamato hasnt replied to me.



Any reasoning?

On June 05 2015 18:10 Mig wrote:
boxerfred what do you think of me? Fecal?

Is your vote for yamato a serious one? You believe he's most likely to be scum just because he voted you?

On June 06 2015 16:59 Mig wrote:
Some stuff I noticed,

marv/yam interaction looks a little forced to me. Marv has to have played with yam 50 times by now. Yam is like this every game, the marv blow up seems overly emotional. I have seen marv blow up before but this seemed a bit much considering yam was just being his usual yam self. Just something to keep in mind.

Feast/artanis interaction - If either of artanis/feast are scum it is very unlikely that the other is also. The claim/counter claim/ artanis vote feast stuff is too random. Just a weird/unlikely series of interactions if the scum team planned out an artanis fake claim.

I honestly have no idea if having 2 protection roles would be OP for town or not. If mafia has a rber it doesn't seem that outlandish to me.

That being said I am fine with lynching artanis. I read through Noir mini mafia that he just played and I actually think artanis played well that game. Day1 of that game was about as useless as this day1 has been and he still managed to actually post some useful thoughts. So far today he has posted a paragraph on being a little suspicious of JTA and that's it. Along with that his story for why he claimed is meh. Alternating between claiming because he was bored and because marv mentioned his line with the word lock in it. It was fairly clear that marv wasn't even saying that it was a bread crumb just that artanis was giving superfluous commentary. Assuming that mafia would have figured out he was JK from that is retarded. Seems more likely that artanis is bsing.



Kind of funny he said this, made a few more posts then disappeared for the rest of the day as well.

Artanis if you are town give your reads, make a case etc.

On June 07 2015 03:47 Mig wrote:
Chez I want to play a game if it involves you posting anything useful.

On June 07 2015 05:52 Mig wrote:
Pretty sure the last 3 times I have played with vayne hes accused me of being mafia and has been wrong. Gotta keep the streak alive.

So why is voting for troll chez better than troll feast?

On June 09 2015 15:57 Mig wrote:
lmao chez is the best. Just going to assume chez is going to get lynched next. So besides him who is most likely to be mafia after him.

So after rethinking things, I came to a realization, why the fuck are we all so sure that JTA is town?

What has JTA done this entire game? He is around constantly, but how many people have you seen him push to get lynched? The only person this entire game that JTA has been 100% gunho on lynching was artanis. Which in hindsight should be throwing off some red flags. The second that NAcl claimed, JTA wanted artanis insta lynched. He is 100% sure that there is no way that the game could have a doctor and jk, why? In my mind if mafia had a rber and or vig it would be fine and totally balanced. But JTA was fucking positive this was impossible, maybe because he knows the mafia roles and knows it would be bullshit for town to have 2 protective roles. This is the same shit as yamato except hes attacking instead of defending. Conversely look at how prplhz/marv/vayne reacted, none of them were totally certain what to believe.

So besides artanis who has JTA pushed? He has thrown suspicion at me/marv/ a few random other people but has he actually tried to get a single person besides artanis lynched?

Look at his game here in assassination.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=justanothertownie&page=2

It is the same style of posting as this game, he is around making random comments, throwing suspicion on people occasionally, arguing about useless shit (same as with me and prplhz) but not actually working to figure out who the mafia are or giving any solid reads/reasons on anything.


This quote from sandroba perfectly applies to JTA's play this game

Compare it to his game here in aperture

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?user=justanothertownie&page=10

You can see in this game he is constantly questioning people, pointing out posts hes suspicious of, strongly defends koshi when he gets a town read on him, etc. Hes actually working and once the town trusts him you can see he takes the lead and tries to organize the town and create discussion.

This game when I ask him for his reads and why he isn't doing anything responds with "he's waiting for other people to do something". When marv is working and interrogating BF JTA is there posting comments but doesn't say shit about whether he actually thinks bf or marv are scum or not. Instead he asks a couple random questions and says
"I am already really obviously town and I don't really feel like doing much as long as nobody else is posting."

This is not the same guy that was leading the town in aperature.

JTA is mafia, anyone who disagrees with me explain to me what exactly JTA has done that makes him town.

On June 10 2015 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
are you actually going to claim or what?

On June 10 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
i really don't know why you'd **** around like this

On June 10 2015 07:00 NaCl`y wrote:


Then why did you ignore 2 doctor claims and vote someone else? Why did you check marvellosity over fecalfeast who you had called mafia the entirety of day 1? Why did you leave it so long to "out" a red check on marvellosity? Why did you leave it till an hour before deadline to properly claim?

On June 10 2015 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:

what a clever breadcrumb....
/s

On June 10 2015 07:41 marvellosity wrote:

this makes me feel better

On June 10 2015 07:42 Half the Sky wrote:


What are you trying to say in general?

And your last post are you suggesting something about Boxerfred?

Being scared of what?

On June 10 2015 07:43 marvellosity wrote:
do you actually think i am mafia?

On June 10 2015 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:

Ok but let's just say I was looking for a cop claim not a town claim

On June 10 2015 07:44 marvellosity wrote:

why?

On June 10 2015 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
whyyyyy have you played like this

On June 10 2015 07:50 prplhz wrote:
why do you think he's cop? didn't he just unclaim? wtf is even going

On June 10 2015 07:52 NaCl`y wrote:
Ok, whatever, let's continue lynching Chezinu for being obnoxious.

On June 10 2015 07:52 prplhz wrote:

okay didn't you just sort of claim and then claim that you didn't claim

On June 10 2015 07:55 marvellosity wrote:

so tell me, why am i mafia?

On June 10 2015 07:56 marvellosity wrote:
because i'm pretty sure i look pretty townie

so no-one voting me has any reasons?

On June 10 2015 07:58 marvellosity wrote:
that doesn't even make sense

On June 10 2015 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:

Shenanigans are no reasons. Shenanigans should only happen when reasons exist.