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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 12 2015 19:40 GMT
#1921
On June 13 2015 04:38 Mig wrote:
Ok and what if fuba flips town.....

Probably bf.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 12 2015 19:45 GMT
#1922
So why not take care of both of them now? If bf is town and fuba mafia doesnt change that you can still lynch me tomorrow except we do it faster so there is one less night kill opportunity for mafia.

The only risk is if fuba ninja votes right at the end and bf is town. But even then you can just lynch fuba tomorrow. And if bf reached Lylo is there anyone who wouldn't lynch him?

Anyway this is moot if fuba actually shows up. But if like 20 min before end of day he hasn't optimal play has to be to try and eliminate both of them.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 12 2015 19:50 GMT
#1923
If you think at any point in this game you are going to need to lynch bf then it is better to do it now and avoid wasting a day and giving mafia another nk
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 12 2015 19:51 GMT
#1924
On June 13 2015 04:50 Mig wrote:
If you think at any point in this game you are going to need to lynch bf then it is better to do it now and avoid wasting a day and giving mafia another nk

How does the order of two deaths matter when the plan is to kill them both?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#1925
It doesn't, my point is if fuba is going to be mod killed then bf should be lynched so both are taken care of
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#1926
On June 13 2015 04:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 04:50 Mig wrote:
If you think at any point in this game you are going to need to lynch bf then it is better to do it now and avoid wasting a day and giving mafia another nk

How does the order of two deaths matter when the plan is to kill them both?

He is arguing in case of a modkill and if we knew fuba will stay afk he would be right but we don't.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 12 2015 19:56 GMT
#1927
What I can tell you is, I am town so if fuba flips mafia and you mislynch me you are still going to have to take care of boxer. Unless someone else comes up who is a better candidate than boxer.

So it has to be worth the risk of lynching boxer if fuba hasn't shown up right before lynch. If he does show up and ninja vote who cares? You lynch him tomorrow and you would have lynched bf anyway eventually.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 12 2015 19:59 GMT
#1928
On June 13 2015 04:56 Mig wrote:
What I can tell you is, I am town so if fuba flips mafia and you mislynch me you are still going to have to take care of boxer. Unless someone else comes up who is a better candidate than boxer.

So it has to be worth the risk of lynching boxer if fuba hasn't shown up right before lynch. If he does show up and ninja vote who cares? You lynch him tomorrow and you would have lynched bf anyway eventually.

So you believe in a world where they are bith mafia? Because I don't think we are that lucky.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 12 2015 20:03 GMT
#1929
Jat I am working with the information of knowing my alignment, I know I am not mafia which makes it more likely that fuba/boxer could both be mafia yes.

Or fuba could be town and bf mafia.

Just look at this logically. Mafia needs multiple mislynches where they can get nks. If town essentially has the chance to double lynch the 2 most suspicious people then they should take it. Unless there is a point when you think you guys will not lynch boxer.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 12 2015 20:05 GMT
#1930
On June 13 2015 05:03 Mig wrote:
Jat I am working with the information of knowing my alignment, I know I am not mafia which makes it more likely that fuba/boxer could both be mafia yes.

Or fuba could be town and bf mafia.

Just look at this logically. Mafia needs multiple mislynches where they can get nks. If town essentially has the chance to double lynch the 2 most suspicious people then they should take it. Unless there is a point when you think you guys will not lynch boxer.

There is a flaw to this logic. If we kill them both and one of them is town we lose a mislynch.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 12 2015 20:06 GMT
#1931
What's worse is boxer will be gone for 3 days and probably end up posting before deadline next day so we will be trying to lynch an afk I see what you mean
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 12 2015 20:06 GMT
#1932
So no, it does not make it so that scum has a nightkill less.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 12 2015 20:09 GMT
#1933
Will you listen to what I am saying tho, unless you think boxer wont get lynched at some point you are going to lynch him eventually no matter what. That means if he is town you will mislynch no matter what. Regardless of his alignment lynching him now saves a day and saves a night kill opportunity for mafia.

If you think me and fuba are both mafia then me getting boxer mislynched now doesn't help me. He is the person who would be most likely to be mislynched tomorrow giving me an extra nk.

The only reason not to lynch bf now is if you think another candidate will come up who is a better lynch than him in the future.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 12 2015 20:09 GMT
#1934
He's saying that it removes a likely mislynch target if one of them is town, I think.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 12 2015 20:09 GMT
#1935
even though we'd still be mislynching that target... wait a second
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 12 2015 20:11 GMT
#1936
Removes a likely ML target? I'm still not sure I understand.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 12 2015 20:12 GMT
#1937
Like he's saying that boxer, if he's town, will be mafia's ace in the hole for lylo
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 12 2015 20:13 GMT
#1938
If we lynch fuba and he flips mafia it is NOT certain that we will lynch bf. If we lynch boxerfred and he flips mafia and town fuba gets modkilled then we basically still have mislynched. I think the only world in which fuba does not return to ninjavote/post is where he is town.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 12 2015 20:13 GMT
#1939
You know like sicklucker tried to do with me twice and got rekt?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 12 2015 20:13 GMT
#1940
Let me just spell out the scenarios here

1) both are mafia we win

2) fuba is mafia, according to JAT that means you lynch me next. But guess what I am town which means you will have to lynch somebody after me. Which will most likely end up being boxer. So why not lynch him now if that is the case?

3) fuba is town, then you take care of the guy who would be lynched tomorrow and save us from spending an entire cycle on him tomorrow.

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