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that wasn't actually a response to you despite the fact the start looks like a response xD
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On June 08 2015 19:07 marvellosity wrote:
well, i just pulled some fuba quotes questioning if his read progression on yamato is natural (he goes from doubting the lynch to supporting the lynch), but the fact he was 2nd on the wagon by the looks of things looks quite good for him.
pls come back asap though bbygrl.
just to muse a little more on this, the problem is I can totally see yamato just going "bus me if you need to, i'll be afk at work and i cba"
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On June 08 2015 19:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:07 marvellosity wrote:
well, i just pulled some fuba quotes questioning if his read progression on yamato is natural (he goes from doubting the lynch to supporting the lynch), but the fact he was 2nd on the wagon by the looks of things looks quite good for him.
pls come back asap though bbygrl. just to muse a little more on this, the problem is I can totally see yamato just going "bus me if you need to, i'll be afk at work and i cba"
Yes, that is quite possible. Everyone who knows yamato and sees that he is on his team knows he will have to bus him too. I wouldn't give anyone credit for that alone.
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On June 05 2015 18:40 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 17:52 prplhz wrote:
hey yamato
are you still good at reading me?
there was a point where only you and marv had the balls and/or brains to accurately read me My whole "I can read prplhz" thing was when I was mafia, lol. I'll let marv have the fun this game. Although independently of anything you've posted, there's this rule that says you should be mafia. Just dunno if it actually applies this game, given Chez's play.
interesting.
can't quite tell what i make of yamato's vote on boxerfred either. on one hand it seems strange just to vote a team-mate out the gate, on the other hand he literally never pushes the idea once for the entire rest of his filter.
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Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way.
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On June 08 2015 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way.
Yes, would like to hear more from him. He literally did nothing at all during the night.
Why do you think that yamato comment is interesting? What does it say about prplhz/chez alignment?
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On June 07 2015 03:06 Mig wrote:
I am at a tourney so have to post from my phone the rest of the day, shitty.
What about fecal feast? Guy has been totally useless/awol the entire game. I cant read his past games but I assume he normally contributes more than this? He softly back pedled from lynching artanis with his post where he said how about we talk about something else but then didnt actually try to discuss anything. His only contribution so far was where he posted all the cases on people and said they sucked. Doesnt look like he gives a shit about actually finding mafia.
Yam is somewhat the same way. Normally from what I remember yam would have a hard on for someone he thinks is scum by now. Instead he just said lynching artanis was retarded while providing no alternative.
On June 07 2015 03:30 Mig wrote:
JAT/nac/artanis who are you guys going to vote for? You are half assedly accusing marv are you voting him?
Marv you dont have anything to contribute besides defending yourself and lazily voting fuba? No other thoughts on who is potentially scum?
We have what like 6 hours or something till lynch and no clear target. Need to get this show on the road.
#vote fecalfeast
I find the two bolded things over these 2 posts kinda ironic.
Is Mig's "case" on FF so much better because he spends a couple sentences saying "he's useless but i haven't read his past games"? Like for realsies?
On June 07 2015 04:00 Mig wrote:
Nac went back and read your post. Correct me if I am wrong but your point is Yam immediately believed the claims which implies he had too much information. But isnt yam jumping to some idiot conclusion without thinking about it just what he does?
Maybe he thinks you caught him tho which is why hes being emo and hasnt pushed for anyone like he normally does.
Defence of yamato when the yamato wagon is still all up in the air
Then when the wagon on yamato has basically taken off:
On June 07 2015 06:18 Mig wrote:
If Fancyfeast isnt lynched yam would be my #2. I dont think town yam just gives up and lets himself get lynched like this normally. Hard for him to pass up opportunities to argue with people when he thinks hes right.
well, he's ok with yam after all
On June 07 2015 05:29 Mig wrote:
My case against fecal is this,
1) claims not to have read the case against me and asks if it is good when there was nothing at all to read.
2) Makes absolutely no effort to comment on who he thinks is mafia. When originally poked he just comes in and says every case sucks.
3) When it looked like the thread was swinging against artanis he lightly stepped backed saying we should discuss other things. He then just disappears without discussing anything.
And now he gives a town read on slam, great! Very useful.
On June 07 2015 05:41 Mig wrote:
I have no reason to believe vayne or chez are town either it doesnt mean they are necessarily mafia. Either you or artanis could be mafia, I stand by that both of you very likely are not.
I also don't understand why these points are supposed to be compelling against FF, when surely the same applies to FF as it does VA and Chez?
Why FF as top scumread but those 2 are don't knows? There's nothing in his FF case that makes this remotely clear
For some lopsided not-really-balance:
Feast/artanis interaction - If either of artanis/feast are scum it is very unlikely that the other is also. The claim/counter claim/ artanis vote feast stuff is too random. Just a weird/unlikely series of interactions if the scum team planned out an artanis fake claim.
I did like this comment
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On June 08 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way. Yes, would like to hear more from him. He literally did nothing at all during the night. Why do you think that yamato comment is interesting? What does it say about prplhz/chez alignment?
nothing to do with prplhz, but it's more that yamato is giving a nod to Chez not looking like his normal self. Right now I can't take anything firm from it, I just find it interesting that yamato points it out himself.
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On June 08 2015 19:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way. Yes, would like to hear more from him. He literally did nothing at all during the night. Why do you think that yamato comment is interesting? What does it say about prplhz/chez alignment? nothing to do with prplhz, but it's more that yamato is giving a nod to Chez not looking like his normal self. Right now I can't take anything firm from it, I just find it interesting that yamato points it out himself.
meh
About mig - yeah, he is not really impressing me either. But at least he was the one trying to get a lynch going when noone was doing anything and he also seemed really annoyed by prplz/me fighting.
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On June 08 2015 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:29 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way. Yes, would like to hear more from him. He literally did nothing at all during the night. Why do you think that yamato comment is interesting? What does it say about prplhz/chez alignment? nothing to do with prplhz, but it's more that yamato is giving a nod to Chez not looking like his normal self. Right now I can't take anything firm from it, I just find it interesting that yamato points it out himself. meh About mig - yeah, he is not really impressing me either. But at least he was the one trying to get a lynch going when noone was doing anything and he also seemed really annoyed by prplz/me fighting.
my point is that his lynch doesn't make particular sense, he chooses FF for being useless and yet dismisses other "useless" people as "don't knows", "they could be either"
I'm not really sure how this is supposed to make sense
one useless guy = top scumread, gonna push repeatedly over yamato
other useless guys = they could be anything, why push them?
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On June 08 2015 18:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 16:28 boxerfred wrote:
It's not about the phrasing. It's about a point. In my first game, my coach advised me to not only ask random questions or do "he's scummy" statements, but actually try to work towards a point or a conclusion which would help set up a picture of someone that is as bulletproof as it gets. You're not trying to do that. You take out one post out of my filter, put it in the only context where it looks even remotely scummy and insist that this post is a huge TMI blow that I made. I already answered Salty's questions. Then, I answered the ones you raised, explaining why I went for you and not for Salty or JAT. You see, I'm trying to collaborate. You're just holding your barrel at me, not even caring about anything else.
Actually can't get over how bad this interpretation is, gonna dissect it for my own amusement Show nested quote +It's not about the phrasing. It's about a point. In my first game, my coach advised me to not only ask random questions or do "he's scummy" statements, but actually try to work towards a point or a conclusion which would help set up a picture of someone that is as bulletproof as it gets. You're not trying to do that. Totally irrelevant to anything? It's like criticising a tennis player for preferring to rally on the baseline or something, it means nothing to anything Show nested quote +You take out one post out of my filter, put it in the only context where it looks even remotely scummy and insist that this post is a huge TMI blow that I made. The "only" context it looks "remotely scummy"? You mean it's a fucking beacon of townie shining light otherwise? You make a bunch of reads conditional on yamato being mafia, it doesn't take much putting in context. And I was 3rd to the punch! You keep attacking me for it, yet not the others before me, but we'll come to that... Also "a huge TMI blow"? I think my wording at the time was "this may be TMI-ish". Exaggeration much? Show nested quote + I already answered Salty's questions. Then, I answered the ones you raised, explaining why I went for you and not for Salty or JAT. Yes, you answered the latter by going "I find these two people townie, so the points they make that are identical to yours are fine. Because I don't find you townie, these points that these 2 townies already mentioned are scummy coming from you." Yes, that doesn't make sense, sorry. You're going after me for points that aren't even mine because I'm the only one you can go after. But there is no logical sense behind it. lol
Three ways to go on:
a) you continue to pick away at my post, not asking a single question, interpreting things the worst way possible.
b) you actually start asking questions that lead to a convincing point
c) people just lynch me, I'll flip VT and boom scum shines.
I don't even care about your answers at this point. You still did not say a single thing that sounds remotely like an indication of me being scum, yet you follow your read hardcore. Sounds like bussing to me.
When you bring up sentences with a question mark again, I'll answer to what you're saying.
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On June 08 2015 19:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:29 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way. Yes, would like to hear more from him. He literally did nothing at all during the night. Why do you think that yamato comment is interesting? What does it say about prplhz/chez alignment? nothing to do with prplhz, but it's more that yamato is giving a nod to Chez not looking like his normal self. Right now I can't take anything firm from it, I just find it interesting that yamato points it out himself. meh About mig - yeah, he is not really impressing me either. But at least he was the one trying to get a lynch going when noone was doing anything and he also seemed really annoyed by prplz/me fighting. my point is that his lynch doesn't make particular sense, he chooses FF for being useless and yet dismisses other "useless" people as "don't knows", "they could be either" I'm not really sure how this is supposed to make sense one useless guy = top scumread, gonna push repeatedly over yamato other useless guys = they could be anything, why push them?
Yes, his choice/reasoning for a push is meh, but I meant he was encouraging people to do stuff and find a lynch in general and not only pushing his own prefered target. I felt urgency when he posted.
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On June 08 2015 19:36 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 18:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 16:28 boxerfred wrote:
It's not about the phrasing. It's about a point. In my first game, my coach advised me to not only ask random questions or do "he's scummy" statements, but actually try to work towards a point or a conclusion which would help set up a picture of someone that is as bulletproof as it gets. You're not trying to do that. You take out one post out of my filter, put it in the only context where it looks even remotely scummy and insist that this post is a huge TMI blow that I made. I already answered Salty's questions. Then, I answered the ones you raised, explaining why I went for you and not for Salty or JAT. You see, I'm trying to collaborate. You're just holding your barrel at me, not even caring about anything else.
Actually can't get over how bad this interpretation is, gonna dissect it for my own amusement It's not about the phrasing. It's about a point. In my first game, my coach advised me to not only ask random questions or do "he's scummy" statements, but actually try to work towards a point or a conclusion which would help set up a picture of someone that is as bulletproof as it gets. You're not trying to do that. Totally irrelevant to anything? It's like criticising a tennis player for preferring to rally on the baseline or something, it means nothing to anything You take out one post out of my filter, put it in the only context where it looks even remotely scummy and insist that this post is a huge TMI blow that I made. The "only" context it looks "remotely scummy"? You mean it's a fucking beacon of townie shining light otherwise? You make a bunch of reads conditional on yamato being mafia, it doesn't take much putting in context. And I was 3rd to the punch! You keep attacking me for it, yet not the others before me, but we'll come to that... Also "a huge TMI blow"? I think my wording at the time was "this may be TMI-ish". Exaggeration much? I already answered Salty's questions. Then, I answered the ones you raised, explaining why I went for you and not for Salty or JAT. Yes, you answered the latter by going "I find these two people townie, so the points they make that are identical to yours are fine. Because I don't find you townie, these points that these 2 townies already mentioned are scummy coming from you." Yes, that doesn't make sense, sorry. You're going after me for points that aren't even mine because I'm the only one you can go after. But there is no logical sense behind it. You see, I'm trying to collaborate. lol Three ways to go on: a) you continue to pick away at my post, not asking a single question, interpreting things the worst way possible. b) you actually start asking questions that lead to a convincing point c) people just lynch me, I'll flip VT and boom scum shines. I don't even care about your answers at this point. You still did not say a single thing that sounds remotely like an indication of me being scum, yet you follow your read hardcore. Sounds like bussing to me. When you bring up sentences with a question mark again, I'll answer to what you're saying.
I will be honest with you - you are not helping yourself or your team right now regardless of your alignment.
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On June 08 2015 19:36 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 18:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 16:28 boxerfred wrote:
It's not about the phrasing. It's about a point. In my first game, my coach advised me to not only ask random questions or do "he's scummy" statements, but actually try to work towards a point or a conclusion which would help set up a picture of someone that is as bulletproof as it gets. You're not trying to do that. You take out one post out of my filter, put it in the only context where it looks even remotely scummy and insist that this post is a huge TMI blow that I made. I already answered Salty's questions. Then, I answered the ones you raised, explaining why I went for you and not for Salty or JAT. You see, I'm trying to collaborate. You're just holding your barrel at me, not even caring about anything else.
Actually can't get over how bad this interpretation is, gonna dissect it for my own amusement It's not about the phrasing. It's about a point. In my first game, my coach advised me to not only ask random questions or do "he's scummy" statements, but actually try to work towards a point or a conclusion which would help set up a picture of someone that is as bulletproof as it gets. You're not trying to do that. Totally irrelevant to anything? It's like criticising a tennis player for preferring to rally on the baseline or something, it means nothing to anything You take out one post out of my filter, put it in the only context where it looks even remotely scummy and insist that this post is a huge TMI blow that I made. The "only" context it looks "remotely scummy"? You mean it's a fucking beacon of townie shining light otherwise? You make a bunch of reads conditional on yamato being mafia, it doesn't take much putting in context. And I was 3rd to the punch! You keep attacking me for it, yet not the others before me, but we'll come to that... Also "a huge TMI blow"? I think my wording at the time was "this may be TMI-ish". Exaggeration much? I already answered Salty's questions. Then, I answered the ones you raised, explaining why I went for you and not for Salty or JAT. Yes, you answered the latter by going "I find these two people townie, so the points they make that are identical to yours are fine. Because I don't find you townie, these points that these 2 townies already mentioned are scummy coming from you." Yes, that doesn't make sense, sorry. You're going after me for points that aren't even mine because I'm the only one you can go after. But there is no logical sense behind it. You see, I'm trying to collaborate. lol Three ways to go on: a) you continue to pick away at my post, not asking a single question, interpreting things the worst way possible.b) you actually start asking questions that lead to a convincing point c) people just lynch me, I'll flip VT and boom scum shines. I don't even care about your answers at this point. You still did not say a single thing that sounds remotely like an indication of me being scum, yet you follow your read hardcore. Sounds like bussing to me. When you bring up sentences with a question mark again, I'll answer to what you're saying.
I am not interpreting anything in the worst way possible.
If you are going to claim that, demonstrate it.
Because I didn't.
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On June 08 2015 19:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:34 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:29 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way. Yes, would like to hear more from him. He literally did nothing at all during the night. Why do you think that yamato comment is interesting? What does it say about prplhz/chez alignment? nothing to do with prplhz, but it's more that yamato is giving a nod to Chez not looking like his normal self. Right now I can't take anything firm from it, I just find it interesting that yamato points it out himself. meh About mig - yeah, he is not really impressing me either. But at least he was the one trying to get a lynch going when noone was doing anything and he also seemed really annoyed by prplz/me fighting. my point is that his lynch doesn't make particular sense, he chooses FF for being useless and yet dismisses other "useless" people as "don't knows", "they could be either" I'm not really sure how this is supposed to make sense one useless guy = top scumread, gonna push repeatedly over yamato other useless guys = they could be anything, why push them? Yes, his choice/reasoning for a push is meh, but I meant he was encouraging people to do stuff and find a lynch in general and not only pushing his own prefered target. I felt urgency when he posted.
this is wishy washy and boring, and not a reason for anything.
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also, boxerfred - bussing = attacking/voting a team-mate
watch that lingo, boy
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On June 08 2015 19:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:36 boxerfred wrote:On June 08 2015 18:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 16:28 boxerfred wrote:
It's not about the phrasing. It's about a point. In my first game, my coach advised me to not only ask random questions or do "he's scummy" statements, but actually try to work towards a point or a conclusion which would help set up a picture of someone that is as bulletproof as it gets. You're not trying to do that. You take out one post out of my filter, put it in the only context where it looks even remotely scummy and insist that this post is a huge TMI blow that I made. I already answered Salty's questions. Then, I answered the ones you raised, explaining why I went for you and not for Salty or JAT. You see, I'm trying to collaborate. You're just holding your barrel at me, not even caring about anything else.
Actually can't get over how bad this interpretation is, gonna dissect it for my own amusement It's not about the phrasing. It's about a point. In my first game, my coach advised me to not only ask random questions or do "he's scummy" statements, but actually try to work towards a point or a conclusion which would help set up a picture of someone that is as bulletproof as it gets. You're not trying to do that. Totally irrelevant to anything? It's like criticising a tennis player for preferring to rally on the baseline or something, it means nothing to anything You take out one post out of my filter, put it in the only context where it looks even remotely scummy and insist that this post is a huge TMI blow that I made. The "only" context it looks "remotely scummy"? You mean it's a fucking beacon of townie shining light otherwise? You make a bunch of reads conditional on yamato being mafia, it doesn't take much putting in context. And I was 3rd to the punch! You keep attacking me for it, yet not the others before me, but we'll come to that... Also "a huge TMI blow"? I think my wording at the time was "this may be TMI-ish". Exaggeration much? I already answered Salty's questions. Then, I answered the ones you raised, explaining why I went for you and not for Salty or JAT. Yes, you answered the latter by going "I find these two people townie, so the points they make that are identical to yours are fine. Because I don't find you townie, these points that these 2 townies already mentioned are scummy coming from you." Yes, that doesn't make sense, sorry. You're going after me for points that aren't even mine because I'm the only one you can go after. But there is no logical sense behind it. You see, I'm trying to collaborate. lol Three ways to go on: a) you continue to pick away at my post, not asking a single question, interpreting things the worst way possible.b) you actually start asking questions that lead to a convincing point c) people just lynch me, I'll flip VT and boom scum shines. I don't even care about your answers at this point. You still did not say a single thing that sounds remotely like an indication of me being scum, yet you follow your read hardcore. Sounds like bussing to me. When you bring up sentences with a question mark again, I'll answer to what you're saying. I am not interpreting anything in the worst way possible. If you are going to claim that, demonstrate it. Because I didn't.
I am deadly, 100% serious about this by the way.
I expect you to do this.
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On June 08 2015 19:41 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:36 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:34 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:29 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way. Yes, would like to hear more from him. He literally did nothing at all during the night. Why do you think that yamato comment is interesting? What does it say about prplhz/chez alignment? nothing to do with prplhz, but it's more that yamato is giving a nod to Chez not looking like his normal self. Right now I can't take anything firm from it, I just find it interesting that yamato points it out himself. meh About mig - yeah, he is not really impressing me either. But at least he was the one trying to get a lynch going when noone was doing anything and he also seemed really annoyed by prplz/me fighting. my point is that his lynch doesn't make particular sense, he chooses FF for being useless and yet dismisses other "useless" people as "don't knows", "they could be either" I'm not really sure how this is supposed to make sense one useless guy = top scumread, gonna push repeatedly over yamato other useless guys = they could be anything, why push them? Yes, his choice/reasoning for a push is meh, but I meant he was encouraging people to do stuff and find a lynch in general and not only pushing his own prefered target. I felt urgency when he posted. this is wishy washy and boring, and not a reason for anything.
If you say so.
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On June 08 2015 19:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:41 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:36 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:34 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:29 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way. Yes, would like to hear more from him. He literally did nothing at all during the night. Why do you think that yamato comment is interesting? What does it say about prplhz/chez alignment? nothing to do with prplhz, but it's more that yamato is giving a nod to Chez not looking like his normal self. Right now I can't take anything firm from it, I just find it interesting that yamato points it out himself. meh About mig - yeah, he is not really impressing me either. But at least he was the one trying to get a lynch going when noone was doing anything and he also seemed really annoyed by prplz/me fighting. my point is that his lynch doesn't make particular sense, he chooses FF for being useless and yet dismisses other "useless" people as "don't knows", "they could be either" I'm not really sure how this is supposed to make sense one useless guy = top scumread, gonna push repeatedly over yamato other useless guys = they could be anything, why push them? Yes, his choice/reasoning for a push is meh, but I meant he was encouraging people to do stuff and find a lynch in general and not only pushing his own prefered target. I felt urgency when he posted. this is wishy washy and boring, and not a reason for anything. If you say so.
yes, i do, hence me saying it.
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On June 08 2015 19:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 19:44 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:41 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:36 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:34 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:29 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 08 2015 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Mig's a weird one, I feel like I can make arguments either way. Yes, would like to hear more from him. He literally did nothing at all during the night. Why do you think that yamato comment is interesting? What does it say about prplhz/chez alignment? nothing to do with prplhz, but it's more that yamato is giving a nod to Chez not looking like his normal self. Right now I can't take anything firm from it, I just find it interesting that yamato points it out himself. meh About mig - yeah, he is not really impressing me either. But at least he was the one trying to get a lynch going when noone was doing anything and he also seemed really annoyed by prplz/me fighting. my point is that his lynch doesn't make particular sense, he chooses FF for being useless and yet dismisses other "useless" people as "don't knows", "they could be either" I'm not really sure how this is supposed to make sense one useless guy = top scumread, gonna push repeatedly over yamato other useless guys = they could be anything, why push them? Yes, his choice/reasoning for a push is meh, but I meant he was encouraging people to do stuff and find a lynch in general and not only pushing his own prefered target. I felt urgency when he posted. this is wishy washy and boring, and not a reason for anything. If you say so. yes, i do, hence me saying it.
You say so because you are saying it? Nice.
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