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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 06 2015 20:46 GMT
#641
Well, to me it would seem that someone fakeclaiming jailkeeper would be scum. I guess I misinterpreted that
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 06 2015 20:46 GMT
#642
On June 07 2015 05:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 05:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:41 Mig wrote:
I have no reason to believe vayne or chez are town either it doesnt mean they are necessarily mafia. Either you or artanis could be mafia, I stand by that both of you very likely are not.

If you are town ask yourself this, why have I spent the last 3 hours phone posting when the thread was dead? If I were mafia I did it just for shits and giggles?


its only town cred if you dont give it to yourself

Fine then I am giving it to him. The fact that he is here and trying to find a lynch makes him a worse lynch than half of this game.

this I will agree with.

Where is the nearest votecount? I will search
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 06 2015 20:47 GMT
#643
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle
I come in for the scraps
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 06 2015 20:48 GMT
#644
Got about 15 minutes left for lunch.

Read boxerfred's response to me. I guess I can see it from his POV. If he's truly a new player who's been busy with kids, I can see him just kinda letting D1 happen and stepping back in D2. Bothers me that he said he was gonna catch up on the last few pages, but has yet to comment on anything, really, that doesn't directly involve him. If no one else is going for him, I guess I'll switch?

But that leaves me with few choices, really. I agree with JAT's not-lynch list (and I add JAT to it, as well). Yamato is probably the one I see the most actual scum potential in, though it's mostly because I'm not entirely sure how to read FF or even VA all that well. Chezinu I have no idea whatsoever how to read, and the same almost goes for slam. It's mostly a POE vote, coupled with the fact that I just kinda expect more out of him as town.

##Vote yamato77
@theRealMkfuba07
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:48 GMT
#645
On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle

I think he's a very valid lynch today since there aren't really that many great candidates.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 06 2015 20:51 GMT
#646
##unvote

##vote Chezinu

reminds me of the nuke game if anyone remembers what im talking about
I come in for the scraps
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
June 06 2015 20:52 GMT
#647
On June 07 2015 05:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle

I think he's a very valid lynch today since there aren't really that many great candidates.

Yeah?

If you have reason not to lynch any of those people feel free to share:

fuba
boxer
slam
yamato
VA
FF
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 06 2015 20:52 GMT
#648
Pretty sure the last 3 times I have played with vayne hes accused me of being mafia and has been wrong. Gotta keep the streak alive.

So why is voting for troll chez better than troll feast?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 06 2015 20:55 GMT
#649
On June 07 2015 05:52 Mig wrote:
Pretty sure the last 3 times I have played with vayne hes accused me of being mafia and has been wrong. Gotta keep the streak alive.

So why is voting for troll chez better than troll feast?


wouldnt put too much stock into my day 1 I often throw away my vote or manipulate it to see whats going on. if im voting for you on day 3 then yea i probably think you are mafia for sure
I come in for the scraps
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 06 2015 20:55 GMT
#650
i might fall asleep so for now i'm just gonna assume salty is town and sheep him. the yam case was even pretty good iirc.

##Vote yamato88
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:55 GMT
#651
On June 07 2015 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 05:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle

I think he's a very valid lynch today since there aren't really that many great candidates.

Yeah?

If you have reason not to lynch any of those people feel free to share:

fuba
boxer
slam
yamato
VA
FF

I think Yamato and Slam are both likely town. I don't find the arguments for Yamato being scum convincing, and Slam looks too cheerful to be scum. Fuba also at least seems to be trying when he's here. For Boxer and VA I've got nothing. I wouldn't mind either of them getting lynched either, but I think Chez is a slightly better lynch for he's said a bunch of things that he hasn't followed up on. The lack of followups even though he's returned a few times is what concerns me about him.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 06 2015 20:56 GMT
#652
##Unvote
##Vote yamato77
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 06 2015 20:57 GMT
#653
On June 07 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle

I think he's a very valid lynch today since there aren't really that many great candidates.

Yeah?

If you have reason not to lynch any of those people feel free to share:

fuba
boxer
slam
yamato
VA
FF

I think Yamato and Slam are both likely town. I don't find the arguments for Yamato being scum convincing, and Slam looks too cheerful to be scum. Fuba also at least seems to be trying when he's here. For Boxer and VA I've got nothing. I wouldn't mind either of them getting lynched either, but I think Chez is a slightly better lynch for he's said a bunch of things that he hasn't followed up on. The lack of followups even though he's returned a few times is what concerns me about him.


Can you please enlighten me how you do not find it convincing when the only reason you have stated that it is not convincing is because you felt similar yet that was only because you had extra information?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:59 GMT
#654
On June 07 2015 05:57 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle

I think he's a very valid lynch today since there aren't really that many great candidates.

Yeah?

If you have reason not to lynch any of those people feel free to share:

fuba
boxer
slam
yamato
VA
FF

I think Yamato and Slam are both likely town. I don't find the arguments for Yamato being scum convincing, and Slam looks too cheerful to be scum. Fuba also at least seems to be trying when he's here. For Boxer and VA I've got nothing. I wouldn't mind either of them getting lynched either, but I think Chez is a slightly better lynch for he's said a bunch of things that he hasn't followed up on. The lack of followups even though he's returned a few times is what concerns me about him.


Can you please enlighten me how you do not find it convincing when the only reason you have stated that it is not convincing is because you felt similar yet that was only because you had extra information?

Because in a recent game I've played (forgot the name) there were 2 vigi claims with Vivax and Toad and I ended up believing both claims as well without any extra info there.

Though I suddenly realize that this didn't occur to me until after D1 when we lynched neither of them. Hmm.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 06 2015 20:59 GMT
#655
What makes you think yam is town artanis?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 06 2015 21:00 GMT
#656
I'm down for some sheepage
##unvote
##vote yamato77

I'm not scumreading myself anymore anyway
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 21:03 GMT
#657
On June 07 2015 05:59 Mig wrote:
What makes you think yam is town artanis?

3 page filter halfway into D1 on a slow game and defending me when I was a legitimate lynch.

Looking back though, I'm starting to have doubts on it. He did believe the claim quite fast, and in the end he didn't really try his hardest to prevent a lynch on me despite townreading me. He's also been kinda demotivated which is generally his scum play.

I guess I don't really townread him anymore reading his filter. There was something about the way he believed me that seemed very genuine though and I find difficult to imagine coming from scum yamato, and though I've rarely used I've noticed my feels do tend to be correct. He just really had the scenario pictured in his head and explained it well.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 21:06 GMT
#658
At this point, I'm on page 21. I have read those pages completely and will hopefully get to the rest of the pages until EoD.
I wanted to do something helpful and decided to skim through yamato's filter since he was the guy who voted me.

So, what did I find? Lots (LOTS) of non-helpful posts. Here's a list:

On June 05 2015 15:11 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 14:39 boxerfred wrote:
Hello, people

Sick case already, looking forward to the answers!

lol?

lol.

##Vote: boxerfred

Cool reasoning on a vote.

On June 05 2015 17:50 yamato77 wrote:
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On June 05 2015 17:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 05 2015 17:01 Mig wrote:
On June 05 2015 16:53 justanothertownie wrote:

If what you asked was relevant is debatable. It also does not serve as a good duscusdion starter at all. Fact is compared to your towngames your posts lack opinions and are rather shallow. Asking for opinions on people that have done nothing so far is also not helpful.

I think regardless of your alignment you will not be able to defend against this so if you are town you should probably post something more productive instead.


It was relevant to me, I don't really care if you agree. And anyway retarded to complain that it isnt a good discussion starter when you compare it to what else was in the thread (nothing) and the fact that it actually has lead to discussion.

I am not asking for your opinions on fuba/artanis. Asking for them to give their opinions on what is happening.

Ah, misreas that fuba/artanis thing. Still asking for their opinions is also not helpful. My complaining is not retarded because noone is trying to sell that the early trolling is valuable for the game while you are trying to justify your stuff this way.

@Yamato: No idea what your problem is. It should be apparent that I do not think the interactions tells us anything about chez alignment. Accusing him the way he did does not look good for prplhz but there is nothing to pressure here. In fact I would argue that me going against mig is the most pressure anyone in this game has applied so far btw.

you don't get it -_-

WHATEVER

Cool answer to a longer post.

On June 05 2015 18:40 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 18:08 boxerfred wrote:
On June 05 2015 16:53 yamato77 wrote:
On June 05 2015 16:33 boxerfred wrote:
On June 05 2015 15:11 yamato77 wrote:
On June 05 2015 14:39 boxerfred wrote:
Hello, people

Sick case already, looking forward to the answers!

lol?

lol.

##Vote: boxerfred

You have the best filter EU. Your first participation in this game actually is "lol? lol. vote".
Would you mind to explain why you're voting me? Would you mind to explain why of all posts (and cases) that were put out thus far you choose my post to reply to?

because it was tonally scummy, for an opening post at this point in the game

@JAT

I'm just surprised you aren't putting pressure on anyone yourself. Your post looked more like complaining about how prplhz was playing than actually commenting on either player's alignment, and you still have yet to take such a stance.

I mean, if you're thinking of prplhz's alignment in relation to how he's going after CHEZINU, isn't there something you'd actually consider in this instance, given the players involved?

##vote yamato77 since your answer looks totally scummy *rolls eyes*


lel

Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 18:32 marvellosity wrote:
boxerfred's entrance seems kinda different to his newbie game (where he was mafia).

That's all I got.


I'm blown away, zz

Even better answers. "You did work? Cool, I have my unreasoned opinion and will keep it, thanks."

On June 06 2015 03:59 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 03:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
like I have a bunch of filters open and nothing to say about them because they all suck.
The case on mig is meta from like 100 years ago -sucks
prplhz calling chez mafia for 'making excuses' even though he was directly asked why he was talking differently -sucks
VA talking about mafia QT in 50% of his posts this game -sucks
boxerfred's opener reads like he has a fake smile the entire time and he insults someone's filter less than 12 hours into the game -sucks


Everything sucks

You suck.

Great contribution.

On June 06 2015 04:51 yamato77 wrote:
fecal is right tho, game is pretty boring

until BF does something that looks even remotely townie, I'm content sitting on the idea of lynching him,

you lazy fucks can do the scumhunting this game, I'm uninspired.

"Wow guys I won't scumhunt why should I even?" I mean, if you're town, you should be scumhunting, shouldn't you?

On June 06 2015 05:07 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 05:04 marvellosity wrote:
On June 06 2015 04:51 yamato77 wrote:
fecal is right tho, game is pretty boring

until BF does something that looks even remotely townie, I'm content sitting on the idea of lynching him,

you lazy fucks can do the scumhunting this game, I'm uninspired.

scummy.

very funny

"What, you think that's suspicious? You sure must be joking."

On June 06 2015 05:11 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 05:08 marvellosity wrote:
On June 06 2015 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 05:06 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 04:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think this game needs some action, berating for people being bad and stuff like that.
I hardclaim jailkeeper.

the fuck is your problem?

zzzzzzz

this is like those artanis medic claims in voice mafia, don't take them seriously

Thank you, this is getting much better.
On June 06 2015 05:06 marvellosity wrote:
would lynch Artanis -> fuba -> yamato

Still bad.

hardly, everything you've done and said has been trash.

look at yourself if you are town.

this is your case on artanis

fucking lol

#1

On June 06 2015 05:14 yamato77 wrote:
it says something that I take so little meaning from such a shit post and you apparently think it's enough to have him as your top scumread

fucking LOL

#2

On June 06 2015 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
you're a fucking idiot

I'm getting tired of reading this filter by now.

On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.

Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread.

Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process.

It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia.

The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand?

If NaCl IS town and he IS doctor, he's a fucking idiot for "counterclaiming" in a closed setup in the first place. If you don't believe Artanis' claim, MAKE GOOD POINTS ABOUT IT, DON'T "COUNTERCLAIM" WITH A DIFFERENT ROLE THAN THE ONE BEING CLAIMED

It's fucking asinine that you're going along with this as well. Is town JAT honestly this fucking stupid to want to lynch into obvious claims?

moar rants in capslock, everyone's "an idiot". Yeah, if those claims are real, scum has easy targets at night. However I'd assume that players are actually not that stupid and try to make the best out of the situation instead of contributing exactly NOTHING by saying "LOL U STIPID". Well those claims would only be stupid if they would be 100% right. Wouldn't they? Like, imagine the following hypothetical scenario:

I claim Doc. I have a role PM that says Doc and I am indeed the real Doc, I'm not lying. However, noone can know if I'm lying or not. Townies will have to think about that a lot before mislynching me. However, for scum, it's easier. Because scum knows: even if the claim is a lie, the guy is a townie. So, scum can of course pull out the "YOU'RE SUCH AN IDIOT FOR HARDCLAIMING" card, seemingly being the caring townie who's upset about how a fellow town member ruined the game.

To me, it appears that you are doing exactly that. Why are you so upset about a hardclaim? You cannot possibly know if that is a correct claim, you can only guess, and the most sure on that claim you would be if you'd be scum.

Up to this point, you orchestrated everything well. A mixture of disinterest, insults, yolo'ing and emotional writing. Emotional writing is great since you can never know if it is a concious use of capslock or if it is really someone banging his head on the keyboard in frustration.

And of course there's this gem:

On June 07 2015 03:11 yamato77 wrote:
I gave an alternative and no one listens to me.

I've had better things to do and today I have work. Enjoy finding a good lynch, I tried to do my part.

"I did my work. Do what you must." The intelligent counseller is not listened to, thus he leaves, saying to the peasants "IF YOU DON'T NEED ME, DO BETTER". What kind of town play is that?


##unvote ##vote yamato77
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 21:07 GMT
#659
brb, gotta read up some more stuff.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 06 2015 21:09 GMT
#660
i dont think yamato is mafia but dont mind if he dies. hes basically just IamRobik except he doesnt ever get warned for behavior somehow even though every post he makes is a personal insult
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