EPT[M][N] I Still Can't Believe it's not Themed Mafia - Page 3
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Would consider chez but meh not sure that is better than yam. | ||
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So after rethinking things, I came to a realization, why the fuck are we all so sure that JTA is town? What has JTA done this entire game? He is around constantly, but how many people have you seen him push to get lynched? The only person this entire game that JTA has been 100% gunho on lynching was artanis. Which in hindsight should be throwing off some red flags. The second that NAcl claimed, JTA wanted artanis insta lynched. He is 100% sure that there is no way that the game could have a doctor and jk, why? In my mind if mafia had a rber and or vig it would be fine and totally balanced. But JTA was fucking positive this was impossible, maybe because he knows the mafia roles and knows it would be bullshit for town to have 2 protective roles. This is the same shit as yamato except hes attacking instead of defending. Conversely look at how prplhz/marv/vayne reacted, none of them were totally certain what to believe. So besides artanis who has JTA pushed? He has thrown suspicion at me/marv/ a few random other people but has he actually tried to get a single person besides artanis lynched? Look at his game here in assassination. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=justanothertownie&page=2 It is the same style of posting as this game, he is around making random comments, throwing suspicion on people occasionally, arguing about useless shit (same as with me and prplhz) but not actually working to figure out who the mafia are or giving any solid reads/reasons on anything. On May 12 2015 04:24 sandroba wrote: I really don't like jat, he feels very different from the town games I've played with him. He doesn't engage people giving him grief trying to figure out their alignment, but instead comes off as dismissive and angry. He also feels very detached from the game, posting statements instead of the usual inquiries and info digging that I normally see from town jat. This quote from sandroba perfectly applies to JTA's play this game Compare it to his game here in aperture http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?user=justanothertownie&page=10 You can see in this game he is constantly questioning people, pointing out posts hes suspicious of, strongly defends koshi when he gets a town read on him, etc. Hes actually working and once the town trusts him you can see he takes the lead and tries to organize the town and create discussion. This game when I ask him for his reads and why he isn't doing anything responds with "he's waiting for other people to do something". When marv is working and interrogating BF JTA is there posting comments but doesn't say shit about whether he actually thinks bf or marv are scum or not. Instead he asks a couple random questions and says "I am already really obviously town and I don't really feel like doing much as long as nobody else is posting." This is not the same guy that was leading the town in aperature. JTA is mafia, anyone who disagrees with me explain to me what exactly JTA has done that makes him town. | ||
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On June 09 2015 09:18 Chezinu wrote: While yall tell me what is going on, I will give yall a fair well story. Once upon a time in the year of the Chez our King, there a servant who was severely devoted. So obsessed with pleasing the king that he fainted at the site of the possibly that the king my be killed. His body slammed to the ground. With his dimimished, a new servant was needed and fortunately the mods provided. As the king looked into the sky, half of the stars fell down to form a being. This being was the king's hope. He wished upon these many stars that they may lead the uncovered the assassins that would lead to his future death. For it was the sacrifice of his fainted servant. that lead to the king to find his theme. A requested he gave to town, but none could fulfill. All seemed lost until that very servant fell out of nowhere to the found to bring forth the many stars. The king waits for the stars... as he rests with his themes. Honestly I am not sure, like is this post by chez and the one following basically him claiming mafia? It sounds to me like yam is his servant in the story. I don't really fucking know what to take seriously with chez. Obviously hes trolling but it seems more likely to me that chez would troll pretend to be mafia as mafia over doing so as town. I am good with lynching chez or JTA. | ||
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On June 09 2015 16:12 prplhz wrote: also why "jta" and not "jat"? dyslexia | ||
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Your hatter claim is obviously bs, that role is too fun for you, 0 chance you forget about the game as a hatter. The only reason you are claiming I am mafia is because you are claiming that I am mafia team mates with marv and now am trying to save him. Really don't think you believe that. I guess that probably means you are mafia and now just spamming stuff you don't believe to distract the thread and cause chaos. | ||
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On June 09 2015 18:43 marvellosity wrote: Mig you're here! gosh Gosh! 3am and I have another tourney tomorrow so gotta sleep. What do you think of Jat's defense that you gave him a town read so he has to be town. Is that accurate? People like sleeping marv so much they are using you as their defense now. | ||
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On June 09 2015 17:29 Mig wrote: Chezy I don't think you actually think I am mafia. Your hatter claim is obviously bs, that role is too fun for you, 0 chance you forget about the game as a hatter. The only reason you are claiming I am mafia is because you are claiming that I am mafia team mates with marv and now am trying to save him. Really don't think you believe that. I guess that probably means you are mafia and now just spamming stuff you don't believe to distract the thread and cause chaos. This point is still accurate, chez wouldn't "forget" about a game he was a dt in. He's clearly just fucking around at this point. ##Vote Chezzy | ||
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After I accused him on day2 he said he was going to do a lot. What exactly has he done? All I see is him repeating 500 times about how hes unlynchable. Also, does anyone know how wbg balances his games? Is it random or does he pick. If he picks then a combination of a scum team of boxer/fuba/vayne/yam seems really weak if you are putting JAT/marv/nac (seems to be a good player)/artanis all on the same squad. Makes way more sense to me to have JAT on the scum team. Or maybe ff but again you run into having the scum team be lurkers/yam (sucks)/new player. Games arent really fun if you have all of the active players being town. Obviously this is just speculation and not proof of anything but it makes sense and adds to my earlier case. | ||
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On June 10 2015 00:21 fuba wrote: Oh, and regarding the explanation for my BF read flipping: In all honesty, the thing that swayed me most is that he just seemed genuine. That isn't typically an acceptable answer, so I tried to fluff it up with "reasoning" and such. This post feels super townie to me also. Mafia are more careful about being honest about things like this. Posts like this draw attention to mafia and you could see fuba instantly got shit about it. + Show Spoiler + On May 25 2015 08:27 fuba wrote: Wishy-washiness is kind of my trademark town play (at least until end game). I used to post a lot more, but every time I would give a giant wall of wishy-washy reads I felt like I was painting a bulls-eye on my back, so I mostly try to think things through on my own now. In an effort to contribute more, I'll try to get some legit reads into the thread by tomorrow. I don't work today, so I should have time to get it done. I wouldn't get your hopes up for definite town/scum reads, but at least I'll put some of my thoughts on "paper". I'm up for a nb lynch. It's true that as a vet, it made little sense to claim during the night. The entire situation seems silly as either alignment, but that remains true. The fact that she was supposedly afraid of dying last night despite being sure that mafia wouldn't also attack her would seem to indicate that her fear was feigned. And she still hasn't explained how she flipped from geript/sandroba scum to sandroba scum + geript absolutely town. Despite being asked multiple times. Many of us had this little feeling that geript was actually town, but she seemed sure of it. ##Vote 17ninjabunnies You can see the same thing from fuba here in carnival as town. He openly admits to trying to craft his posts to avoid suspicion, which is generally a mafia trait but something mafia wont ever post because they don't want to draw attention to themselves. | ||
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And my points about fuba are completely right. Don't try and tell me lurker fuba would come out of hiding to soft defend chez if there was a tiny chance chez really was a dt and it would cause the town to do 2 mislynches in a row just to try and earn some small amount of town cred. Doesnt make any logical sense for him. | ||
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