On June 10 2015 03:31 NaCl`y wrote: To sum up this discussion. If Chezinu flips any variant of a town role we should lynch Fuba.
To justify my reasoning. He has seemingly hard defended (not particularly hard but still hard nonetheless) the people that people are most suspicious of at times when it was unwarranted (Boxerfred in general, Chezinu now, VayneAuthority about how there's not much to call him mafia for).
I thought he rescinded the point on VA or said it was in reference to someone else talking about VA?
But still, this goes back to the point I made on his initial read on Artanis though I wouldn't call it a hard defence. Weighing in on the JK claim was warranted but not taking into account the gameplay on which it stands.
As for fuba himself, the only thing is him saying at one point (pretty sure it was him and not BF since they were in thread at the same time) he didn't have many or any scumreads atm.
On June 10 2015 03:31 NaCl`y wrote: To sum up this discussion. If Chezinu flips any variant of a town role we should lynch Fuba.
To justify my reasoning. He has seemingly hard defended (not particularly hard but still hard nonetheless) the people that people are most suspicious of at times when it was unwarranted (Boxerfred in general, Chezinu now, VayneAuthority about how there's not much to call him mafia for).
I thought he rescinded the point on VA or said it was in reference to someone else talking about VA?
But still, this goes back to the point I made on his initial read on Artanis though I wouldn't call it a hard defence. Weighing in on the JK claim was warranted but not taking into account the gameplay on which it stands.
Well it doesn't matter what he did in regards to VA since all of his original thought posts are there to defend someone from something or another. His boxerfred stance was simply "I don't think he'd do this as mafia" and when I point to his filter in his other game that would say otherwise he exclaims that he has not read it but still maintains his point is correct.
His stance on Chezinu now is still strange given that I've just shown his actions around the Artanis[Xp] and my jailkeeper claims and he still maintains he could be a cop.
Damn you have a very good point about the DT/2 prot scenario.
On June 10 2015 03:43 Half the Sky wrote: And fuba, you are suggesting that's implying a redcheck?
Yes. If I was in chez's place (assuming for the moment that chez is town), I'd assume that that message would be read as a red check on marv, in the event of my eventual flip as cop.
Salty has a very good point though on potential setup issues here. The DT/2 prot claim.
Secondly has Chez fakeclaimed as scum before? Or talked in clues trying to fakeclaim? You've looked at it from a town side, but did you consider the mafia side, I think Salty it was alluded to the rolecop possibility?
Especially since the town gameplay largely isn't there.
On June 10 2015 03:50 Fecalfeast wrote: Yeah, chez is just trying to cause confusion.
Why would a cop even bother to say "there may be millers" if he's not going to defend himself before lynch? If you have a red check, 'reminding' people of a miller serves to only create wiggle room for scum!marv if he was actually redchecked.
Just doesn't make sense to me
Yeah I tried to test fuba's theory with a more direct example. I don't know. I don't understand his gameplay in general (nevermind the whole DT thing) and still the exchange with marv last night, that never got resolved.
On June 10 2015 07:02 Chezinu wrote: It's closed setup. I believed artanis. I was afk and that's why I'm getting lynch because I was too sane and was inactive. Why would I check mikeymoo but claim to check scamp? I claimed day 1. You will see my role.
Closed setup, right, but you didn't take into consideration the possibility of 2 prot roles not being balanced (which is what Salty alluded to) or being a bit unusual (does closed setup mean possibly unbalanced setups? It's a bit wifom), nor did you take into consideration the nature and timing of Artanis' claim before you believed it? And more so, after?
Salty had way more town credibility on his behaviour compared to Artanis through his counterclaim so how did that not trigger any reaction?
Although unless I missed it you don't have a read on Salty either.
He calls FF mafia all of day 1, the only post he calls to attention is the "hey gang" (entrance?) post that FF makes and that's really it. He obviously doesn't have to case him since it may not be his style but you could argue reading his filter, all his pushes are really soft pushes. I'd argue soft pushes all game are scummy.
Someone said before you make no mention of him until you come out and vote for him. If you checked him, what in his D1 play made you check him? You didn't answer (from what I can tell) Salty's original question.
On June 10 2015 07:56 marvellosity wrote: because i'm pretty sure i look pretty townie
so no-one voting me has any reasons?
If you are so town, then why don't you kill FF?
If you believe FF is scum, then why aren't you pushing him harder? Why did you drop the FF push when Marv commented on your lurkiness? Why did you ignore me last night (real time) when I asked you about Marv commenting on FF?
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