On June 06 2015 07:55 NaCl`y wrote:
@Everyone

I do not believe there would simply be 2 protective roles in this game. I would like the input of others that have not said anything towards this, it would be appreciated. Are there likely to be 2 town protective roles? Could Artanis[Xp] be the mafia roleblocker fake claiming since they are notified and it would be a good cover for somebody that notoriously does not play as mafia?

Until recently there couldn't be godfather, framer, miller, cop in same game but then suddenly there was a game with godfather, framer, miller, cop. So I'm not inclined to this setup speculation either. Honestly I haven't a clue what to make of these claims, I'm pretty horrible with claims.

What I'm pretty certain of is that one of you claimers is a giant moron.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

June 05 2015 23:00 GMT

#389

On June 06 2015 07:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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Because he didn't know my alignment and it was already weird to him. For someone who does know alignments the options are much more limited.

No he didn't know your alignment but obvious he thought "Would Artanis[Xp] do this as town" and "Would Artanis[Xp] do this as scum". He thought about you alignment and considered both, obviously. marvellosity is not the tunnely kind of guy now is he?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

June 05 2015 23:01 GMT

#393

On June 06 2015 08:00 yamato77 wrote:

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Look, Artanis shouldn't have claimed when he did, but the crumb is quite obviously a crumb in hindsight

If you don't think it's a crumb now, I don't know what to tell you

i guess it's a crumb since he's hardclaiming it to be a crumb but i would never have guessed that lol

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

June 05 2015 23:02 GMT

#395

I need to think about this claim business.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

June 05 2015 23:05 GMT

#402

On June 06 2015 08:03 yamato77 wrote:

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it's not really about whether anyone perceived it to be a crumb or not in the first place

it's about it obviously being something that was out of place in the given context, which was then claimed to be a crumb. kinda makes sense, no?

Unless you believe mafia artanis is either:

1) fakeclaiming with an awful crumb

or

2) covering his ass by making up a claim out of some odd sentence he posted

I don't know, I wasn't convinced by marvellosity's initial argument that it was out of place. It sort of looked like that but Artanis[Xp]'s posts often look like that? Like NaCl´y, their posts look like they want to be a little smarter than they actually are and that sometimes look a little odd. I don't know what I think about Artanis[Xp]. A d1 hard claim to start discussion? I don't know lol. I need to think about this claim business.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

June 05 2015 23:38 GMT

#418

The Artanis[Xp] town narrative of him getting his crumb outed and scum read and then he gets frustrated and proceeds to hard claim and martyr is really bad but it's sort of consistent? NaCl`y, I don't know who he is but I wouldn't put it beyond him to fake counterclaim. It's been done a couple of times lately and maybe he's smurfing to... do stuff. Not to just sit on his hands.

Are people really that sure that there can't be two protectiveish roles in this game? I guess we have to deal with this at some point but reading both of them and ignoring the claim business I'm not reading any of them in any direction.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

June 05 2015 23:41 GMT

#419

I need someone to make sense of this to me.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

June 05 2015 23:43 GMT

#421

Maybe we just lynch Artanis[Xp]. He's obviously hell bent on wrecking this game for town so maybe that makes him scum.

##Vote Artanis[Xp]

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

June 05 2015 23:45 GMT

#423

On June 06 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, tell me:
1) Why would scum NaCl counterclaim if they can shoot town artanis in the night?
2) How on earth does Artanis play make sense from a town pov? Do you think he is usually a pretty stupid guy?

No but I just said, the narrative of him being town, having his crumb outed, being scum read by marvellosity (who will probably get his lynch d1) and then being all frustrated and martyring and hard claiming shit, that sort of fits. Do you think scum would have done all this if they could have avoided it? This is pretty extraordinary.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

June 05 2015 23:45 GMT

#424

On June 06 2015 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Actually this is all reminding me of the 2 jailkeeper setup from not-so-long ago.

Let's talk about other stuff or figure out a way to confirm them via night actions or something.

That just doesn't solve it. We can't wait for night actions to solve this.