EPTOn June 16 2015 04:03 prplhz wrote:
##Vote VayneAuthority
##Vote VayneAuthority
From your standpoint, why?
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On June 16 2015 04:05 boxerfred wrote: I had almost no time to read so I voted off of a feeling to not get modkilled. I gut-felt that fuba was under pressure and decided that my vote would not get him killed, thus it'd be safe to put pressure on him too without actually killing him. I don't understand the logic here. You could have voted for anyone so that you would not get modkilled. How does fuba - or anyone - being under pressure - alone, make them scum? There are things such as pressure votes, but pressure votes generally have a purpose. So let me ask you this - putting into context your lack of time - if you had had the time to re-evaluate, what would (you have wanted) your vote on fuba to achieve? | ||
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Actually let me elaborate - what makes him better lynch than BF? | ||
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Re voting for fuba - I agree. He's using the lack of time as an excuse which was why I purposely re-phrased the question to see where his mentality was. The fact there's no response makes me think he's out of ideas (which I've seen happen as either alignment with people) or just not wanting to put information out there, the latter which is exclusively mafia. The issue with the spreadsheet issue is that BF at least judging by last game generally willing to have a go even when disadvantaged as mafia, not sure if you are aware but NSM10 he was giving it a go as mafia until one of the townies literally bullied him into conceding which (obviously) was out of order and earned that player (a vet) a 3 game ban. In this scenario, the bullying that occured in NSM10 is obv not happening but in any case I was more interested in seeing the purpose behind what he was doing, and not seeing the mentality or the ability to explain it is quite problematic from a town perspective. There needs to be a purpose. Also lack of original thought is generally a scum trait. So this is why I'm not treating his giving up as alignment indicative. I want to lynch him based on the points raised up through and including last cycle and of course today it's just gotten worse. | ||
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What makes it potentially scum trait is that several things have been happening over the course of the game with boxer, and that read has been completely static with new information. If boxer is actually indeed town, VA actually could be mafia. I broached the idea of TMI with him, which becomes glaringly obvious given all the scum behaviour that's been weighted against him. So it raises the question why (aside from the JAT/BF argument that VA commented on as being town on town) or what else or what changes make him think he's town. | ||
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On June 16 2015 06:35 Mig wrote: One thing I think at least, if boxer is mafia then prplhz is more likely town (as backwards as that may seem). If he wanted to save his team mate I assume he would have posted something arguing for why vayne is a better lynch instead of just voting vayne and afking. Voting and disappearing would actually make prplhz more suspicious if boxer flips mafia. Not to be persnickety but you are contradicting yourself here. Which do you actually mean? | ||
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On June 15 2015 07:55 VayneAuthority wrote: im pretty sure we are all town guys, the answer is to no lynch and unlock the secret victory. honestly i got nothing this game. everyone at some point has given me a pretty good reason to read them as town, ##vote justanothertownie yolo And this was before prplhz voted VA. | ||
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On June 16 2015 07:25 justanothertownie wrote: The thing is VA can be scum regardless of bfs alignment. If this is the case do you think this is a better reason then to lynch VA over BF? | ||
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On June 16 2015 07:46 VayneAuthority wrote: basically my vote is a tipping of the hat to JAT as a player, i honestly doubt anyone else in this game could trick me that badly no offense. only other player i havent really played with is fecal and boxer so i could be wrong on those ofc. Uh you played Carnaval with him??? He was scum, you were 3p? | ||
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So where and how and why did that read change? | ||
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