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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 06:53 GMT
#1134
All that said, I'm becoming more and more weary of Shockey.

I do also wish Onegu would play this game but I've sort of just given him a free pass as I don't REALLY think he's scum too often when he plays like this.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 06:57 GMT
#1136
Is there really a world where Bill is town this game?

I struggle to think we have two mafia in tube/shockey/shining/onegu

I sorta have townreads on 2/4 and I waver on tube constantly

Shockey though is dropping fast. I worry.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 06:59 GMT
#1138
On June 11 2015 15:57 The Shining wrote:
And you conveniently quoted my post about me not trying hard but deleted the part where I mentioned my town tells. And they're more obvious now. Look at my d1s and d2s in past town games. You'll notice a few similarities, regardless of post size or activity level. I just don't want to meta myself.

Why did you delete that part off the quote? It makes it blatantly obvious that although I do not think I'm playing up to standard, I'm playing well enough and have done enough to feel my townread isn't terribly hard to those familiar with my meta. And you're one of those.

And as I'm typing that, my tinfoil went off. Yamato, why do you think I'm town? Do you still think I'm town? I remember you saying my arguments were bad so there's gotta be another reason for you TR me.

I find your big posts rather genuine.

Sometimes you have weird "look at me I'm pro-town" moments but whatever, bugs apparently does that silly shit too.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 07:07 GMT
#1140
Tubesock why are you convinced Bill is town when literally everyone else thinks he's mafia?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 07:29 GMT
#1144
As for what Bill would have done, that argument is complete WIFOM and presupposes that you have some sort of knowledge of how Bill plays scum, which I almost certainly have more of than you.

I do think Bill would play like he did D1 as mafia. He was overall directionless and was playing solely to fuck up the game. He even once claimed he was requesting a replacement in the thread which is basically as low as you get in terms of faking being butthurt.

As far as him having a plan, I immediately direct you to Assassination mafia where mafia BM fires a nuke only hours into D1 without consulting his team whatsoever, and then fires a second nuke at his own teammate once the first one is shot down. No, I don't think Bill has plans as scum, he just plays disruptively and tries to play off WIFOM. Seems pretty effective given you read him town for it, haha.

I also do think that mafia may have at some point wanted to save LS for his KP but may have not succeeded. Like I said earlier, I don't necessarily believe you are mafia but if you were your only play is to vote against WBG so you voting with your scum team isn't all that implausible. Bill can vote wherever he pleases because no one honestly expects him as town to be all that rational and he also probably can't vote with WBG given his play throughout the day.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 07:30 GMT
#1146
On June 11 2015 16:29 The Shining wrote:
So I'm totally and completely not even mentioned in Foot's filter. Considering we know its GB now, a player who has played with me and coached me as town before, and also played in the only scum game I've ever played on TL, I find it interesting that she hasn't once mentioned me or tried to read me or have me lynched.

Wait a sec. GB IS a she, right? So Tube did in fact know that Foot was a girl before any of us.

Or is GB not a girl and I'm making an ass of myself?

Pretty sure GB is a dude.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 07:37 GMT
#1150
On June 11 2015 16:36 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 16:29 yamato77 wrote:
As for what Bill would have done, that argument is complete WIFOM and presupposes that you have some sort of knowledge of how Bill plays scum, which I almost certainly have more of than you.

I do think Bill would play like he did D1 as mafia. He was overall directionless and was playing solely to fuck up the game. He even once claimed he was requesting a replacement in the thread which is basically as low as you get in terms of faking being butthurt.

As far as him having a plan, I immediately direct you to Assassination mafia where mafia BM fires a nuke only hours into D1 without consulting his team whatsoever, and then fires a second nuke at his own teammate once the first one is shot down. No, I don't think Bill has plans as scum, he just plays disruptively and tries to play off WIFOM. Seems pretty effective given you read him town for it, haha.

I also do think that mafia may have at some point wanted to save LS for his KP but may have not succeeded. Like I said earlier, I don't necessarily believe you are mafia but if you were your only play is to vote against WBG so you voting with your scum team isn't all that implausible. Bill can vote wherever he pleases because no one honestly expects him as town to be all that rational and he also probably can't vote with WBG given his play throughout the day.


Hmmm. He does constantly go back and forth on scumming/towning Bugs a lot. I guess I town him because I think his town comments are him being sarcastic towards Bugs and well avoiding all the attention I'm getting for pushing the most townread player in the game. Bill says multiple times about how Bugs is showcasing doing ad hominem attacks, and using logical fallacies. I agree with him, so I think he's town. /shrug

Ad hominem and logical fallacies are not scum tells, especially for bugs, lol.

Bill focusing on such an irrelevant point is something against him in my book.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 08:09 GMT
#1154
On June 11 2015 16:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
I just got home not too long ago. Longass flights with longass delays. At least I'm not stuck in Chicago. 完全

##unvote
##vote The Shining

Why are we switching, exactly?

His recent posting has gotten better, not worse.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 17:54 GMT
#1179
We're lynching Bill guys, don't deviate from the plan.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 18:14 GMT
#1186
On June 12 2015 03:04 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 02:54 yamato77 wrote:
We're lynching Bill guys, don't deviate from the plan.


Why are we lynching bill I thought you said tubes and shine?

Definitely included Bill

He 100% deserves to die.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 18:25 GMT
#1189
You guys are making it incredibly hard to figure out who Bill's partner is.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 19:28 GMT
#1199
Lol you get 0 points for not calling me town

That's the most scum post I've seen in a long time
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 19:32 GMT
#1201
On June 12 2015 04:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 04:28 yamato77 wrote:
Lol you get 0 points for not calling me town

That's the most scum post I've seen in a long time


Yea, or are you just going to get on the "Let's lynch shockeyy train" because I labeled you as possible scum?

Who did you vote for D1?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 19:52 GMT
#1206
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 20:00 GMT
#1209
Shockey just tell me who you voted for D1
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 20:02 GMT
#1212
WITCHCRAFT

TOWNREADS

TELL ME
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 20:06 GMT
#1216
batsnacks do you actually have a blaspheme check on someone?

if so claim it
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 20:11 GMT
#1218
well what did you do? >_>
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 20:23 GMT
#1220
I think it's Shockey/BM

I tracked BM to both kickstart and WBG, so obviously he's the witch hunter and there are no silver bullets left.

Shockey's read on BM is horrid and overall his reads aren't quite up to par with how I feel even a newb town would be looking at the game.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 20:58 GMT
#1238
On June 12 2015 05:54 Breshke wrote:
Yamato are you 100% hard claiming? If so it may be possible to try find the last scum by rigging the witchcraft vote

Yeah it's definitely possible to do so.

I'll follow whatever plan you guys wish, I am 100% hardclaiming. I don't fakeclaim.
Writer@WriterYamato
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